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Table of proposed name changes
Table of proposed name changes
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|-
! colspan="10" |Changes to names that bear a prefix (anti-, sub-, etc) (most justifiable changes)
! colspan="9" |Changes to names that bear a prefix (anti-, sub-, etc) (most justifiable changes)
|-
|-
! rowspan="2" |Mos
! rowspan="2" |Mos
! colspan="3" |Current name
! colspan="3" |Current name
! colspan="3" |Suggested name(s)
! colspan="3" |Suggested name(s)
! rowspan="2" |Old suggestions
! rowspan="2" |Reasoning
! rowspan="2" |Reasoning
! rowspan="2" |Possible issues and other notes
! rowspan="2" |Possible issues and other notes
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|sel- or moon-
|sel- or moon-
|sel or moon
|sel or moon
|selenic
| rowspan="4" |Shorter names. These names follow in the same spirit as "onyx" for 1L 6s in the following ways:
| rowspan="4" |Shorter names. These names follow in the same spirit as "onyx" for 1L 6s in the following ways:


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|spin-
|spin-
|spin
|spin
|alpine, stelanic
|-
|-
|1L 8s
|1L 8s
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|aga- or agat-
|aga- or agat-
|aga
|aga
|mineric
|-
|-
|1L 9s
|1L 9s
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|oliv-
|oliv-
|oliv
|oliv
|parivalic, alentic
|-
|-
|2L 5s
| rowspan="2" |2L 5s
|antidiatonic
| rowspan="2" |antidiatonic
|pel-
| rowspan="2" |pel-
|pel
| rowspan="2" |pel
|pelotonic or peltonic
|pelotonic
|unchagned
|unchagned
|unchagned
|unchagned
|pelic
|Option 1: make 2L 5s more distinct from 5L 2s. This mirrors a few Discord users' sentiments regarding this scale in that it should not be treated as an "inversion" of 5L 2s but should be treated as something unique.
| rowspan="2" |From "[[pelog]]" and "[[armodue]]". The proposed names are to make both scales more distinct from diatonic. These names must be changed together if possible. The use of the term "superdiatonic" to refer to 7L 2s was misattributed to armodue theorists, as the term cannot be found anywhere on the armodue website.
|Connections to 5L 2s may be beneficial to musicians, and this connection already exists for mavila.
The use of the term "superdiatonic" is used to refer to both a chromatic extension of an albitonic (diatonic-like) scale and the mos 7L 2s, depending on context. In TAMNAMS-related contexts, the term "chromatic" is used for the former.
Hairtonic.
| rowspan="2" |The connection to diatonic may be beneficial to some musicians. Additionally, the mode names commonly used for both mosses are those from diatonic (lydian, ionian, etc) with the anti- and super- prefixes added. Despite misattribution, the name "superdiatonic" refers to 7L 2s.
New names reference pelog tuning and armodue theory.
 
Hairtonic ("pelo" is Spanish for "hair").
 
'''"Armotonic" is currently designated as one of two names for 7L 2s, alongside "superdiatonic".'''
|-
|-
|7L 2s
|unchanged
|superdiatonic
|adia-
|arm-
|adia.
|arm
|Option 2: leave it as-is but change the prefix to adia-.
|armotonic
|May be too minor of a change.
|unchagned
|unchagned
|armic
|-
|-
|8L 1s
|8L 1s
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|azu- or unchanged
|azu- or unchanged
|azu or unchanged
|azu or unchanged
|azuric
|An indirect reference to [[bleu]] temperament; azure is a specific shade of blue. Simplified name. Also, the sub- prefix may falsely suggest another scale called "(prefix)neutralic", similar to how sub'''aric''' (2L 6s) is the parent to both j'''aric''' (2L 8s) and t'''aric''' (8L 2s).
|An indirect reference to [[bleu]] temperament; azure is a specific shade of blue. Simplified name. Also, the sub- prefix may falsely suggest another scale called "(prefix)neutralic", similar to how sub'''aric''' (2L 6s) is the parent to both j'''aric''' (2L 8s) and t'''aric''' (8L 2s).
|New name is referencing a temperament, albeit indirectly. The sub- prefix reasoning may be a stretch, since subaric, jaric, and taric are the only mosses related this way.
|New name is referencing a temperament, albeit indirectly. The sub- prefix reasoning may be a stretch, since subaric, jaric, and taric are the only mosses related this way.
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|unchanged
|unchanged
|unchanged
|unchanged
|
|Makes the name more consistent with other an- mosses.
|Makes the name more consistent with other an- mosses.
|Too minor of a modification. However, a compromise would be to recognize both anpentic and antipentic as variations of the same name.
|Too minor of a modification. A possible compromise is to accept it as a spelling variant.
|-
|-
! colspan="10" |Changes to names to reduce or remove references to temperaments (least justifiable changes)
! colspan="9" |Changes to names to reduce or remove references to temperaments (least justifiable changes)
|-
|-
! rowspan="2" |Mos
! rowspan="2" |Mos
! colspan="3" |Current name
! colspan="3" |Current name
! colspan="3" |Suggested name(s)
! colspan="3" |Suggested name(s)
! rowspan="2" |Old suggestions
! rowspan="2" |Reasoning
! rowspan="2" |Reasoning
! rowspan="2" |Possible issues and other notes
! rowspan="2" |Possible issues and other notes
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|unchagned
|unchagned
|unchagned
|unchagned
|
|A more indirect reference to [[machine]] temperament.
|A more indirect reference to [[machine]] temperament.
|Still references machine temperament. May also reference [[Subgroup temperaments|mechanism]] temperament. '''May be too minor of a modification.'''
|Still references machine temperament. May also reference [[Subgroup temperaments|mechanism]] temperament. '''May be too minor of a modification.'''
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|unchagned
|unchagned
|unchagned
|unchagned
|septonic
|Rather than alluding to [[sephiroth]] temperament, the name should allude to Peter Kosmorsky's ''[https://ia800703.us.archive.org/12/items/TractatumDeModiSephiratorum/ModiSephiratorum.pdf Tractatum de Modi Sephiratorum]'' (A Treatise on the Modes of the Sephirates), whose name ultimately comes from the [[wikipedia:Sefirot|sefirot]]. The document describes several edos that are said to contain the "modi sephiratorum" (sephirate modes). Therefore, instead of the name "sephiroid", suggesting that the mos pattern resembles the modi sephiratorum, the mos pattern ''is'' the modi sephiratorum, hence the mosname "sephirotonic".
|Rather than alluding to [[sephiroth]] temperament, the name should allude to Peter Kosmorsky's ''[https://ia800703.us.archive.org/12/items/TractatumDeModiSephiratorum/ModiSephiratorum.pdf Tractatum de Modi Sephiratorum]'' (A Treatise on the Modes of the Sephirates), whose name ultimately comes from the [[wikipedia:Sefirot|sefirot]]. The document describes several edos that are said to contain the "modi sephiratorum" (sephirate modes). Therefore, instead of the name "sephiroid", suggesting that the mos pattern resembles the modi sephiratorum, the mos pattern ''is'' the modi sephiratorum, hence the mosname "sephirotonic".
|May still reference sephiroth temperament. For a more indirect reference, an alternate transliteration of סְפִירוֹת (sefirot) may be used instead.
|May still reference sephiroth temperament. For a more indirect reference, an alternate transliteration of סְפִירוֹת (sefirot) may be used instead.
'''New name is longer than the old name. May also be too minor of a modificaiton.'''
'''New name is longer than the old name. May also be too minor of a modificaiton.'''
|-
|7L 3s
|dicoid and zaltertic
|dico- and zal-
|dico and zal
|zaltertic
|zal-
|zal
|
|At the time of writing, there were two names. I would have favored zaltertic over dicoid in that it removes a name that suggests a temperament.
|Central zalzalian thirds (another name for neutral thirds) are not the scale's bright generator, but are produced by the scale.
'''With the removal of "zaltertic", "dicoid" is currently the only recognized name for this mos, nullifying this suggestion.'''
|-
|-
|2L 6s
|2L 6s
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|bara-
|bara-
|bar
|bar
|
|Rhymes perfectly with jaric and taric. May also mean "basic -aric", as this mos with a basic step ratio (L:s=2:1) cannot produce jaric or taric, or rather, produces both but equalized.
|Rhymes perfectly with jaric and taric. May also mean "basic -aric", as this mos with a basic step ratio (L:s=2:1) cannot produce jaric or taric, or rather, produces both but equalized.
|'''Too minor of a modification.''' The use of "bar" as an abbreviation may be problematic ("bar" may also mean "measure" in sheet music).
|'''Too minor of a modification.''' The use of "bar" as an abbreviation may be problematic ("bar" may also mean "measure" in sheet music).
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