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== Proposal: Naming mosses with more than 10 steps (work-in-progress) ==
== Proposal: Naming mosses with more than 10 steps (work-in-progress) ==
See: [[User:Ganaram inukshuk/TAMNAMS Extension]]
See: [[User:Ganaram inukshuk/TAMNAMS Extension]]
== Suggested changes for mos pattern names (work-in-progress) ==
== Naming mosses ==
This section describes changes to existing [[TAMNAMS]] names that I would make. Reasons:
The following is a proposal on how to name mosses. There are, of course, exceptions to these rules, as some names are arguably too memorable to change.
 
# Names for single-period mosses with 5 or fewer notes are the most general names in the sense that they're not limited to an octave period and end with -ic or -al. These should be the only mosses that contain the anti- prefix, shortened to an-.
## Monowood is an exception in that it does not end with -ic or -al.
## An extreme alternative to rule 1 is to say that all mosses named under rule 1 should end with -al, but this requires renaming more mosses (antetral, tetral, pental, anpental) for arguably little gain.
# Names for single-period mosses not of the form 1L ns end with -tonic, suggesting that these are octave-specific and reference a specific interval, a notable pre-TAMNAMS or other temperament-agnostic name, or indirectly reference a temperament (and instead bear the -oid prefix) if all other options are exhausted.
## Mosh, semiquartal, zaltertic, balzano, and pine are exceptions to this rule as their names are too distinct or too well-established to justify change.
# With the exception of mosses named under rule 1, no mosses should be named in a way that they contain additional prefixes such as anti-, sub-, or super-, nor should such mosses share the same word stem unless the mosses in question have some relationship.
## Semiquartal is an exception to the no-prefixes rule because event though it bears the semi- prefix, its mosprefix is chton-.
## Sets of mosses that share a relationship with one another include the following: subaric (proposed rename to baric), jaric, and taric; monowood, biwood, triwood, tetrawood, pentawood.
# Multi-period mos names should bear the -ic suffix.
# Names based on objects or personal names are exempt from the rules described above, as long as their naming is justified.
## This includes names for mosses of the form 1L ns with 6 or more notes, as these are named after gemstones and minerals, following the spirit of 1L 6s being named onyx (see next section). These mosses have too broad a tuning range to even suggest a single temperament.
## This includes names such as tcherepnin, pine, lemon, and lime.
 
=== Changes to exiting names ===
This section describes changes to existing [[TAMNAMS]] names that I would make, given the proposal described in the previous section and the following reasons:


* Some names are still based on a temperament (mainly the -oid names), so those are either replaced with a new name or at least altered so the references are more indirect.
* Some names are still based on a temperament (mainly the -oid names), so those are either replaced with a new name or at least altered so the references are more indirect.
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Table of proposed name changes
Table of proposed name changes
! colspan="10" |Changes to names to reduce or remove references to temperaments
|-
! rowspan="2" |Mos
! colspan="3" |Current name
! colspan="3" |Suggested name(s)
! rowspan="2" |Old suggestions
! rowspan="2" |Reasoning
! rowspan="2" |Possible issues and other notes
|-
!Name
!Prefix
!Abbrev.
!Name
!Prefix
!Abbrev.
|-
|-
|5L 1s
! colspan="10" |Changes to names that bear the anti- prefix (most justifiable changes)
|machinoid
|mech-
|mech
|mechatonic
|unchagned
|unchagned
|
|A more indirect reference to [[machine]] temperament.
|Still references machine temperament. May also reference [[Subgroup temperaments|mechanism]] temperament. May be too minor of a modification.
|-
|3L 7s
|sephiroid
|seph-
|seph
|sephirotonic or sephiratonic
|unchagned
|unchagned
|septonic
|Rather than alluding to [[sephiroth]] temperament, the name should allude to Peter Kosmorsky's ''[https://ia800703.us.archive.org/12/items/TractatumDeModiSephiratorum/ModiSephiratorum.pdf Tractatum de Modi Sephiratorum]'' (A Treatise on the Modes of the Sephirates), whose name ultimately comes from the [[wikipedia:Sefirot|sefirot]]. The document describes several edos that are said to contain the "modi sephiratorum" (sephirate modes). Therefore, instead of the name "sephiroid", suggesting that the mos pattern resembles the modi sephiratorum, the mos pattern ''is'' the modi sephiratorum, hence the mosname "sephirotonic".
|May still reference sephiroth temperament. For a more indirect reference, an alternate transliteration of סְפִירוֹת (sefirot) may be used instead.
New name is longer than the old name. May also be too minor of a modificaiton.
|-
|7L 3s
|dicoid and zaltertic
|dico- and zal-
|dico and zal
|zaltertic
|zal-
|zal
|
|As of writing, there are two names. I would favor zaltertic over dicoid in that it removes a name that suggests a temperament.
|Central zalzalian thirds (another name for neutral thirds) are not the scale's bright generator, but are produced by the scale.
'''With the removal of "zaltertic", "dicoid" is currently the only recognized name for this mos.'''
|-
! colspan="10" |Changes to names that bear the anti- prefix
|-
|-
! rowspan="2" |Mos
! rowspan="2" |Mos
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|parivalic, alentic
|parivalic, alentic
|-
|-
! colspan="10" |Changes to names that bear other prefixes
! colspan="10" |Changes to names that bear other prefixes (somewhat justifiable changes)
|-
|-
! rowspan="2" |Mos
! rowspan="2" |Mos
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|Rhymes perfectly with jaric and taric. May also mean "basic -aric", as this mos with a basic step ratio (L:s=2:1) cannot produce jaric or taric, or rather, produces both but equalized.
|Rhymes perfectly with jaric and taric. May also mean "basic -aric", as this mos with a basic step ratio (L:s=2:1) cannot produce jaric or taric, or rather, produces both but equalized.
|Too minor of a modification. The use of "bar" as an abbreviation may be problematic ("bar" may also mean "measure" in sheet music).
|Too minor of a modification. The use of "bar" as an abbreviation may be problematic ("bar" may also mean "measure" in sheet music).
|-
|3L 2s
|antipentic
|apent-
|apt
|anpentic
|unchanged
|unchanged
|
|Makes the name more consistent with other an- mosses.
|Too minor of a modification. However, a compromise would be to recognize both anpentic and antipentic as variations of the same name.
|-
! colspan="10" |Changes to names to reduce or remove references to temperaments (least justifiable changes)
|-
! rowspan="2" |Mos
! colspan="3" |Current name
! colspan="3" |Suggested name(s)
! rowspan="2" |Old suggestions
! rowspan="2" |Reasoning
! rowspan="2" |Possible issues and other notes
|-
!Name
!Prefix
!Abbrev.
!Name
!Prefix
!Abbrev.
|-
|5L 1s
|machinoid
|mech-
|mech
|mechatonic
|unchagned
|unchagned
|
|A more indirect reference to [[machine]] temperament.
|Still references machine temperament. May also reference [[Subgroup temperaments|mechanism]] temperament. '''May be too minor of a modification.'''
|-
|3L 7s
|sephiroid
|seph-
|seph
|sephirotonic or sephiratonic
|unchagned
|unchagned
|septonic
|Rather than alluding to [[sephiroth]] temperament, the name should allude to Peter Kosmorsky's ''[https://ia800703.us.archive.org/12/items/TractatumDeModiSephiratorum/ModiSephiratorum.pdf Tractatum de Modi Sephiratorum]'' (A Treatise on the Modes of the Sephirates), whose name ultimately comes from the [[wikipedia:Sefirot|sefirot]]. The document describes several edos that are said to contain the "modi sephiratorum" (sephirate modes). Therefore, instead of the name "sephiroid", suggesting that the mos pattern resembles the modi sephiratorum, the mos pattern ''is'' the modi sephiratorum, hence the mosname "sephirotonic".
|May still reference sephiroth temperament. For a more indirect reference, an alternate transliteration of סְפִירוֹת (sefirot) may be used instead.
'''New name is longer than the old name. May also be too minor of a modificaiton.'''
|-
|7L 3s
|dicoid and zaltertic
|dico- and zal-
|dico and zal
|zaltertic
|zal-
|zal
|
|At the time of writing, there were two names. I would have favored zaltertic over dicoid in that it removes a name that suggests a temperament.
|Central zalzalian thirds (another name for neutral thirds) are not the scale's bright generator, but are produced by the scale.
'''With the removal of "zaltertic", "dicoid" is currently the only recognized name for this mos, making it hard to justify this change.'''
|}
|}
=== Aesthetic rules ===
These are the rules that attempt to justify the logic behind much of the name suggestions. There are, of course, exceptions to these rules, as some names are arguably too memorable to change.
# Names for single-period mosses with 5 or fewer notes are the most general names in the sense that they're not limited to an octave period and end with -ic or -al. These should be the only mosses that contain the anti- prefix, shortened to an-. (Exception: monowood is octave-specific and does not end with -ic or -al.)
## An extreme alternative to rule 1 is to say that all mosses named under rule 1 should end with -al, but this requires renaming more mosses (antetral, tetral, pental, anpental) for arguably little gain.
# Names for single-period mosses not of the form 1L ns end with -tonic, suggesting that these are octave-specific and reference a specific interval, a notable pre-TAMNAMS or other temperament-agnostic name, or indirectly reference a temperament if all other options are exhausted. (Exceptions: mosh, semiquartal, zaltertic, balzano, and pine don't end with -tonic.)
# Names for mosses of the form 1L ns with 6 or more notes are named after gemstones and minerals, following the spirit of 1L 6s being named onyx. These are named differently than those named using the previous rule as these mosses have too broad a tuning range to even suggest a single temperament.
# Names for multi-period mosses end with -ic and always refer to an octave-equivalent scale. (Execptions: lemon, lime, tcherepnin, and all the -wood scales don't end with -ic.)
# With the exception of mosses named under rule 1, no mosses should be named in a way that they contain additional prefixes such as anti-, sub-, or super-. (Exception: semiquartal bears the semi- prefix, but its mosprefix is chton-).
Other name changes:
* Antipentic -> anpentic; follows names of other small mosses where an- is used as a shortened form of anti-.
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|+Table of mosses with all proposed name changes (changed names are shown in bold)
|+Table of mosses with all proposed name changes (changed names are shown in bold)
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|-
|5L 1s
|5L 1s
|'''mechatonic'''
|machinoid
| colspan="2" rowspan="11" |
| colspan="2" rowspan="11" |
|-
|-
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|-
|3L 7s
|3L 7s
|'''sephiratonic'''
|sephiroid
|-
|-
| rowspan="5" |2L 1s
| rowspan="5" |2L 1s
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