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== Proposal: Naming mosses with more than 10 steps (work-in-progress) ==
== Proposal: Naming mosses with more than 10 steps (work-in-progress) ==
This is a system for describing scales beyond the set of named TAMNAMS scales. Both [[User:Frostburn]] ([[User:Frostburn/TAMNAMS Extension]]) and I have similar systems, with the main difference here being how mosses can be named any number of generations away from a named mos.
See: [[User:Ganaram inukshuk/TAMNAMS Extension]]
 
To name mosses that have more than 10 notes, rather than giving mosses unique names, names are based on how they're related to another (named) mos.
* A child mos is a ''chromatic mos''. For the child of a named mos, the name is ''chromatic (mos name)'', which can be shortened to ''(mos-prefix)chromatic'' if the mos has no more than 3 periods. This term collectively refers to 2 possible chromatic mosses, or any one of them.
* A grandchild mos is an ''enharmonic mos''. For the grandchild of a named mos, the name is ''enharmonic (mos name)'', which can be shortened to ''(mos-prefix)enharmonic'' if the mos has no more than 3 periods. This term collectively refers to 4 possible enharmonic mosses, or any one of them.
* A great-grandchild mos is a ''subchromatic mos''. For the great-grandchild of a named mos, the name is ''subchromatic (mos name)'', which can be shortened to ''(mos-prefix)subchromatic'' if the mos has no more than 3 periods. This term collectively refers to 8 possible subchromatic mosses, or any one of them. (Tentative name; open to better suggestions.)
A mos that is more than 3 generations away from another mos (eg, a great-great-grandchild mos) or any number of generations from another mos is a ''mos descendant''. For the descendant of a named mos, the name is ''(mos name) descendant'', which can be shortened to ''(mos-prefix)descendant'' if the mos has no more than 3 periods. This term collectively refers to any number of descendants of a mos or any single mos descendant regardless of generation, or any one mos descendant. Optionally, the number of generations away from a named parent can be specified, producing the terms ''nth mos descendant'', ''nth (mos name) descendant,'' and ''nth (mos-prefix)descendant'', using the algorithm below to find ''n'':
 
# Let z and w be the number of large and small steps of the parent mos to be found. Assign to z and w the values x and y respectively. Let n = 0, where n is the number of generations away from zL ws.
# Let m1 be equal to max(z, w) and m2 be equal to min(z, w).
# Assign to z the value m2 and w the value m1-m2. Increment n by 1.
# If the sum of z and w is no more than 10, then the parent mos is zL ws and is n generations from the mos descendant xL ys. If not, repeat the process starting at step 2.
 
As diatonic (5L 2s) doesn't have a prefix, the terms ''chromatic'', ''enharmonic'', and ''subchromatic'' by themselves (and with no other context suggesting a non-diatonic mos) refer to 1st (child), 2nd (grandchild), and 3rd (great-grandchild) diatonic descendants. For consistency, mos descendant names apply to mosses whose child mosses exceed 10 notes. Since all mosses ultimately descend from some nL ns mos, every possible descendant up to 5 periods will be related to a named mos.
{| class="wikitable center-all"
|+Mosses whose children have more than 10 notes (1st and 2nd descendants only)
|-
! colspan="2" |6-note mosses
! colspan="2" |Chromatic mosses
! colspan="2" |Enharmonic mosses
|-
!Pattern!!Name
!Patterns
!Names
!Patterns
!Names
|-
|[[1L 5s]]
|antimachinoid
|1L 6s, 6L 1s
|n/a
|1A 7B, 6A 7B
|n/a
|-
|[[2L 4s]]
|malic
|2L 6s, 6L 2s
|n/a
|2A 8B, 6A 8B
|n/a
|-
|[[3L 3s]]
|triwood
|3L 6s, 6L 3s
|n/a
|3A 9B, 6A 9B
|n/a
|-
|[[4L 2s]]
|citric
|4L 6s, 6L 4s
|n/a
|4A 10B, 6A 10B
|n/a
|-
|[[5L 1s]]||machinoid
|5L 6s, 6L 5s
|mechromatic
|5A 11B, 6A 11B
|mechenharmonic
|-
! colspan="2" |7-note mosses
! colspan="2" |Chromatic mosses
! colspan="2" |Enharmonic mosses
|-
!Pattern!!Name
!Patterns
!Names
!Patterns
!Names
|-
|[[1L 6s]]
|onyx
|1L 7s, 7L 1s
|n/a
|1A 8B, 7A 8B
|n/a
|-
|[[2L 5s]]
|antidiatonic
|2L 7s, 7L 2s
|n/a
|2A 9B, 7A 9B
|n/a
|-
|[[3L 4s]]
|mosh
|3L 7s, 7L 3s
|n/a
|3A 10B, 7A 10B
|n/a
|-
|[[4L 3s]]|| smitonic
|4L 7s, 7L 4s
|smichromatic
|4A 11B, 7A 11B
|smienharmonic
|-
|[[5L 2s]]||diatonic
|5L 7s, 7L 5s
|chromatic
|5A 12B, 7A 12B
|enharmonic
|-
|[[6L 1s]]||arch(a)eotonic
|6L 7s, 7L 6s
|archeoromatic
|6A 13B, 7A 13B
|archeoenharmonic
|-
! colspan="2" |8-note mosses
! colspan="2" |Chromatic mosses
! colspan="2" |Enharmonic mosses
|-
!Pattern!!Name
!Patterns
!Names
!Patterns
!Names
|-
|[[1L 7s]]
|antipine
|1L 8s, 8L 1s
|n/a
|1A 9B, 8A 9B
|n/a
|-
|[[2L 6s]]
|subaric
|2L 8s, 8L 2s
|n/a
|2A 10B, 8A 10B
|n/a
|-
|[[3L 5s]]||checkertonic
|3L 8s, 8L 3s
|checkchromatic
|3A 11B, 8A 11B
|checkenharmonic
|-
|[[4L 4s]]||tetrawood; diminished
|4L 8s, 8L 4s
|chromatic tetrawood
|4A 12B, 8A 12B
|enharmonic tetrawood
|-
|[[5L 3s]]||oneirotonic
|5L 8s, 8L 5s
|oneirochromatic
|5A 13B, 8A 13B
|oneiroenharmonic
|-
|[[6L 2s]]||ekic
|6L 8s, 8L 6s
|ekchromatic
|6A 14B, 8A 14B
|ekenharmonic
|-
|[[7L 1s]]||pine
|7L 8s, 8L 7s
|pinechromatic
|7A 15B, 8A 15B
|pinenharmonic
|-
! colspan="2" |9-note mosses
! colspan="2" |Chromatic mosses
! colspan="2" |Enharmonic mosses
|-
!Pattern!! Name
!Patterns
!Names
!Patterns
!Names
|-
|[[1L 8s]]
|antisubneutralic
|1L 9s, 9L 1s
|n/a
|1A 10B, 9A 10B
|n/a
|-
|[[2L 7s]]
|balzano
|2L 9s, 9L 2s
|balchromatic
|2A 11B, 9A 11B
|balenharmonic
|-
|[[3L 6s]]||tcherepnin
|3L 9s, 9L 3s
|cherchromatic
|3A 12B, 9A 12B
|cherenharmonic
|-
|[[4L 5s]]||gramitonic
|4L 9s, 9L 4s
|gramchromatic
|4A 13B, 9A 13B
|gramenharmonic
|-
|[[5L 4s]]|| semiquartal
|5L 9s, 9L 5s
|chtonchromatic
|5A 14B, 9A 14B
|chtonenharmonic
|-
|[[6L 3s]]|| hyrulic
|6L 9s, 9L 6s
|hyruchromatic
|6A 15B, 9A 15B
|hyrenharmonic
|-
|[[7L 2s]]||superdiatonic
|7L 9s, 9L 7s
|armchromatic
|7A 16B, 9A 16B
|armenharmonic
|-
|[[8L 1s]]||subneutralic
|8L 9s, 9L 8s
|bluchromatic
|8A 17B, 9A 17B
|bluenharmonic
|-
! colspan="2" |10-note mosses
! colspan="2" |Chromatic mosses
! colspan="2" |Enharmonic mosses
|-
!Pattern!!Name
!Patterns
!Names
!Patterns
!Names
|-
|[[1L 9s]]||antisinatonic
|1L 10s, 10L 1s
|asinachromatic
|1A 11B, 10A 11B
|asinenharmonic
|-
|[[2L 8s]]||jaric
|2L 10s, 10L 2s
|jarachromatic
|2A 12B, 10A 12B
|jaraenharmonic
|-
|[[3L 7s]]|| sephiroid
|3L 10s, 10L 3s
|sephchromatic
|3A 13B, 10A 13B
|sephenharmonic
|-
|[[4L 6s]]||lime
|4L 10s, 10L 4s
|limechromatic
|4A 14B, 10A 14B
|limenharmonic
|-
|[[5L 5s]]||pentawood
|5L 10s, 10L 5s
|chromatic pentawood
|5A 15B, 10A 15B
|enharmonic pentawood
|-
|[[6L 4s]]||lemon
|6L 10s, 10L 6s
|lemchromatic
|6A 16B, 10A 16B
|lemenharmonic
|-
|[[7L 3s]]||dicoid, zaltertic
|7L 10s, 10L 7s
|dicochromatic, zalchromatic
|7A 17B, 10A 17B
|dicoenharmonic, zalenharmonic
|-
|[[8L 2s]]||taric
|8L 10s, 10L 8s
|tarachromatic
|8A 18B, 10A 18B
|tarenharmonic
|-
|[[9L 1s]]||sinatonic
|9L 10s, 10L 9s
|sinachromatic
|9A 19B, 10A 19B
|sinenharmonic
|}
=== Names for mos descendants by step ratio ===
The designations of chromatic, enharmonic, and subchromatic by themselves does not describe a specific mos descendant. To do that, the name of a step ratio range can be prefixed to the terms ''chromatic'', ''enharmonic'', and ''subchromatic'' (or ''(mos-prefix)chromatic'', ''(mos-prefix)enharmonic'', and ''(mos-prefix)subchromatic''). Specifying the step ratio is optional, and the names for step ratios can be abbreviated into a one or two-letter prefix. (Frostburn's abbreviations can be used here, too.) These prefixes are used for specific descendants, with the notable exception of ''soft'' and ''hard''. For enharmonic mosses, these describe mosses with a step ratio outside the hyposoft and hypohard range. For subchromatic mosses, these describe mosses within the entire soft and hard ranges, producing terminology more specific than just ''subchromatic'' but not as specific as the specific step ratio ranges. These prefixes must include a hyphen.
{| class="wikitable"
|+Descendant mosses sorted by generation and step ratio
! colspan="2" |Parent mos
! colspan="4" |Chromatic mosses
! colspan="4" |Enharmonic mosses
! colspan="6" |Subchromatic mosses
|-
! rowspan="2" |Steps
! rowspan="2" |L:s range
! rowspan="2" |Steps
! rowspan="2" |Prefix
! rowspan="2" |Abbrev.
! rowspan="2" |L:s range
! rowspan="2" |Steps
! rowspan="2" |Prefix
! rowspan="2" |Abbrev.
! rowspan="2" |L:s range
! rowspan="2" |Steps
! colspan="2" |Broad prefixes
! colspan="2" |Specific prefixes
! rowspan="2" |L:s range
|-
!Prefix
!Abbrev.
!Prefix
!Abbrev.
|-
| rowspan="8" |xL ys
| rowspan="8" |1:1 to 1:0
| rowspan="4" |(x+y)L xs
| rowspan="4" |soft-
| rowspan="4" |s-
| rowspan="4" |1:1 to 2:1
| rowspan="2" |(x+y)L (2x+y)s
| rowspan="2" |soft-
| rowspan="2" |s-
| rowspan="2" |1:1 to 3:2
|(x+y)L (3x+2y)s
| rowspan="4" |soft-
| rowspan="4" |s-
|ultrasoft-
|us-
|1:1 to 4:3
|-
|(3x+2y)L (x+y)s
|parasoft-
|ps-
|4:3 to 3:2
|-
| rowspan="2" |(2x+y)L (x+y)s
| rowspan="2" |hyposoft-
| rowspan="2" |os-
| rowspan="2" |3:2 to 2:1
|(3x+2y)L (2x+y)s
|quasisoft-
|qs-
|3:2 to 5:3
|-
|(2x+y)L (3x+2y)s
|minisoft-
|ms-
|5:3 to 2:1
|-
| rowspan="4" |xL (x+y)s
| rowspan="4" |hard-
| rowspan="4" |h-
| rowspan="4" |2:1 to 1:0
| rowspan="2" |(2x+y)L xs
| rowspan="2" |hypohard-
| rowspan="2" |oh-
| rowspan="2" |2:1 to 3:1
|(2x+y)L (3x+y)s
| rowspan="4" |hard-
| rowspan="4" |h-
|minihard-
|mh-
|2:1 to 5:2
|-
|(3x+y)L (2x+y)s
|quasihard-
|qh-
|5:2 to 3:1
|-
| rowspan="2" |xL (2x+y)s
| rowspan="2" |hard-
| rowspan="2" |h-
| rowspan="2" |3:1 to 1:0
|(3x+y)L xs
|parahard-
|ph-
|3:1 to 4:1
|-
|xL (3x+y)s
|ultrahard-
|uh-
|4:1 to 1:0
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|+Example with balzano (2L 7s)
! colspan="2" |Balzano (parent)
! colspan="2" |Chromatic balzano
! colspan="2" |Enharmonic balzano
! colspan="3" |Subchromatic balzano
|-
!Steps
!Name
!Steps
!Name
!Steps
!Name
!Steps
!Broad name
!Specific name
|-
| rowspan="8" |2L 7s
| rowspan="8" |balzano
| rowspan="4" |9L 2s
| rowspan="4" |s-balchromatic
| rowspan="2" |9L 11s
| rowspan="2" |s-balenharmonic
|9L 20s
| rowspan="4" |s-balsubchromatic
|us-balsubchromatic
|-
|20L 9s
|ps-balsubchromatic
|-
| rowspan="2" |11L 9s
| rowspan="2" |os-balenharmonic
|20L 11s
|qs-balsubchromatic
|-
|11L 20s
|ms-balsubchromatic
|-
| rowspan="4" |2L 9s
| rowspan="4" |h-balchromatic
| rowspan="2" |11L 2s
| rowspan="2" |oh-balenharmonic
|11L 13s
| rowspan="4" |h-balsubchromatic
|mh-balsubchromatic
|-
|13L 11s
|qh-balsubchromatic
|-
| rowspan="2" |2L 11s
| rowspan="2" |h-balenharmonic
|13L 2s
|ph-balsubchromatic
|-
|2L 13s
|uh-balsubchromatic
|}
=== Names for mos descendants with more than 5 periods ===
To name mos descendants with more than 5 periods, the names for wood mosses are extended to hexawood, heptawood (or septawood), octawood, nonawood (or enneawood), and decawood. Beyond that, the naming scheme becomes 11-wood, 12-wood, and so on, and mosses are referred to ''chromatic (number)-wood'', ''enharmonic (number)-wood'', and ''subchromatic (number)-wood.'' The term ''(number)-wood descendants'' is also used, and to refer to ''nth (number)-wood descendants'', the algorithm is used below to find the number of generations:
 
# Let z and w be the number of large and small steps of the parent mos to be found. Assign to z and w the values x and y respectively. Let n = 0, where n is the number of generations away from zL ws.
# Let m1 be equal to max(z, w) and m2 be equal to min(z, w).
# Assign to z the value m2 and w the value m1-m2. Increment n by 1.
# If both z and w are equal to 1, then the parent mos is nL ns and is n generations from the mos descendant xL ys. If not, repeat the process starting at step 2.
 
{| class="wikitable"
|+Names for wood scales up to 10 periods
!Mos
!Name
!Prefix
!Abbrev.
|-
|6L 6s
|hexawood
|hexwud-
|hw
|-
|7L 7s
|septawood or heptawood
|sepwud- or hepwud-
|sw or hw
|-
|8L 8s
|octawood
|octwud-
|ow
|-
|9L 9s
|nonawood or enneawood
|nonawud- or ennwud-
|nw or enw
|-
|10L 10s
|decawood
|dekwud-
|dkw
|}
 
=== Names for other mos families (in-progress) ===
Mosses of the form xL (kx+y)s form an infinite linear family. The first member of this family is the mos such that k = 0 and y < x, or x = y = 1.
 
* The simplest mos family of this form, the '''monolarge''' family, includes all mosses of the form 1L ns. This family starts at 1L 1s.
* The next simplest mos family, the '''bilarge''' family, includes all mosses of the form 2L (kn+1)s. This family starts at 2L 1s.
* Mosses of the general form of xL (kx+y)s, the '''xL ys polylarge''' or '''(mos name) polylarge''' family, belong to the same family.
** For a mos of the form xL ys, descendant mosses of the form xL (kx+y)s are formed using a step ratio for xL ys that is around the pseudocollapesed range, and xL (kx+y)s is the kth mos descendant of this form.
** For a mos of the form xL ys, a similar linear family has the form (x+y)L (x+k(x+y))s. These descendant mosses are formed using a step ratio for xL ys that is around the pseduequalized range, and (x+y)L (x+k(x+y))s is the kth mos descendant of this form.
 
A similar family of mosses are of the form (x+ky)L ys. These do not form a family of related mosses in that their generators are different sizes, but serves as the sister of the form xL (kx+y)s. One noteworthy example is diatonic (5L 2s) and superdiatonic/armotonoc (7L 2s), a pair of indirectly related mosses where the structure of the mos is similar except for the number of large steps.
 
* The sister of the mos family 1L ns is nL 1s, and may be called monosmall.
* The sister of the mos family 2L (kn+1)s is (kn+1)L 2s, and may be call bismall.
* The sister of the mos family xL (kx+y)s is (x+ky)L ys, and may be called yL xs polysmall or (mos name) polysmall.
 
Another mos family corresponds to the golden ratio, and is commonly associated with golden temperaments, such as golden meantone. These mosses have the form (F(n)x+F(n-1)y)L (F(n-1)x+F(n-2)y)s, where F(n), F(n-1), and F(n-2) are the nth, (n-1)th, and (n-2)th Fibonacci numbers. Here, F(1) = 1 and F(0) = 0. These mosses are formed using a step ratio for xL ys that approximates or is equal to the golden ratio.
 
=== Reasoning for names ===
The names for chromatic scales are based on former names for the child mosses of diatonic (5L 2s) - p-chromatic for 5L 7s and m-chromatic for 7L 5s - and was generalized to ''chromatic mos''. The term enharmonic is already in use to describe the grandchild mosses of diatonic, and so was generalized to ''enharmonic mos''. The term subchromatic is a term coined by Mike Battaglia to describe a scale that is more chromatic than either chromatic or enharmonic, and is generalized to ''subchromatic mos''.
 
The format of adding a mos's prefix to the terms descendant, chromatic, enharmonic, and subchromatic is best applied to mosses that have no more than three periods. With mosses that descend directly from nL ns mosses especially (4L 4s and above), this is to keep names from being too cumbersome (eg, ''chromatic (number)-wood'' instead of ''(number)-woodchromatic'').
 
Various people have suggested the use of p- and m- as prefixes to refer to specific chromatic mosses, as well as the use of f- and s- for enharmonic mosses. Generalizing the pattern to 3rd mos descendants reveals an issue where the letters started to diverge from one another, notably where m- is no longer next to p- and f- and s- are no longer along the extremes. Rather than to use these letters and to maintain temperament agnosticism, prefixes based on step ratios are used instead.
{| class="wikitable"
|+Temperament-based mosdescendant prefixes
! rowspan="2" |Diatonic scale
! colspan="3" |Chromatic mosses
! colspan="3" |Enharmonic mosses
! colspan="3" |Subchromatic mosses
|-
!Steps
!Notable temperament
!Prefix
!Steps
!Notable temperament
!Prefix
!Steps
!Notable temperament
!Prefix
|-
| rowspan="8" |[[5L 2s]]
| rowspan="4" |[[7L 5s]]
| rowspan="4" |meantone
| rowspan="4" |m-
| rowspan="2" |[[7L 12s]]
| rowspan="2" |flattone
| rowspan="2" |f-
|[[7L 19s]]
|tridecimal
|t-
|-
|[[19L 7s]]
|flattone
|f-
|-
| rowspan="2" |[[12L 7s]]
| rowspan="2" |meantone
| rowspan="2" |m-
|[[19L 12s]]
|meanpop
|m-
|-
|[[12L 19s]]
|huygens
|h-
|-
| rowspan="4" |[[5L 7s]]
| rowspan="4" |pythagorean
| rowspan="4" |p-
| rowspan="2" |[[12L 5s]]
| rowspan="2" |pythagorean
| rowspan="2" |p-
|[[12L 17s]]
|pythagorean
|p-
|-
|[[17L 12s]]
|gentle
|g-
|-
| rowspan="2" |[[5L 12s]]
| rowspan="2" |superpyth
| rowspan="2" |s-
|[[17L 5s]]
|superpyth
|s-
|-
|[[5L 17s]]
|ultrapyth
|u-
|}
The temperament-based prefixes may be used specifically for diatonic descendants as alternatives to the prefixes based on step ratios, effectively bringing back the names of p-chromatic and m-chromatic.
== Suggested changes for mos pattern names (work-in-progress) ==
== Suggested changes for mos pattern names (work-in-progress) ==
This section describes changes to existing [[TAMNAMS]] names that I would make. Reasons:
This section describes changes to existing [[TAMNAMS]] names that I would make. Reasons:
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* Some names are too long (in my opinion).
* Some names are too long (in my opinion).


The choice of names are not perfect and some may have issues. Some name suggestions went through different versions. This section is meant to start a discussion on alternate names should a need come up for it.
The choice of names are not perfect and some may have issues. Some name suggestions went through different versions. This section is meant to start a discussion on alternate names should a need come up for it. Some of these suggestions may be outdated as TAMNAMS names change, rendering such suggestions unnecessary; notes regarding such changes are in '''bold'''.
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|+
|+
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! rowspan="2" |Old suggestions
! rowspan="2" |Old suggestions
! rowspan="2" |Reasoning
! rowspan="2" |Reasoning
! rowspan="2" |Possible issues
! rowspan="2" |Possible issues and other notes
|-
|-
!Name
!Name
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|Rather than alluding to [[sephiroth]] temperament, the name should allude to Peter Kosmorsky's ''[https://ia800703.us.archive.org/12/items/TractatumDeModiSephiratorum/ModiSephiratorum.pdf Tractatum de Modi Sephiratorum]'' (A Treatise on the Modes of the Sephirates), whose name ultimately comes from the [[wikipedia:Sefirot|sefirot]]. The document describes several edos that are said to contain the "modi sephiratorum" (sephirate modes). Therefore, instead of the name "sephiroid", suggesting that the mos pattern resembles the modi sephiratorum, the mos pattern ''is'' the modi sephiratorum, hence the mosname "sephirotonic".
|Rather than alluding to [[sephiroth]] temperament, the name should allude to Peter Kosmorsky's ''[https://ia800703.us.archive.org/12/items/TractatumDeModiSephiratorum/ModiSephiratorum.pdf Tractatum de Modi Sephiratorum]'' (A Treatise on the Modes of the Sephirates), whose name ultimately comes from the [[wikipedia:Sefirot|sefirot]]. The document describes several edos that are said to contain the "modi sephiratorum" (sephirate modes). Therefore, instead of the name "sephiroid", suggesting that the mos pattern resembles the modi sephiratorum, the mos pattern ''is'' the modi sephiratorum, hence the mosname "sephirotonic".
|May still reference sephiroth temperament. For a more indirect reference, an alternate transliteration of סְפִירוֹת (sefirot) may be used instead.
|May still reference sephiroth temperament. For a more indirect reference, an alternate transliteration of סְפִירוֹת (sefirot) may be used instead.
New name is longer than the old name.
New name is longer than the old name. May also be too minor of a modificaiton.
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|7L 3s
|7L 3s
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|As of writing, there are two names. I would favor zaltertic over dicoid in that it removes a name that suggests a temperament.
|As of writing, there are two names. I would favor zaltertic over dicoid in that it removes a name that suggests a temperament.
|Central zalzalian thirds (another name for neutral thirds) are not the scale's bright generator, but are produced by the scale.
|Central zalzalian thirds (another name for neutral thirds) are not the scale's bright generator, but are produced by the scale.
'''With the removal of "zaltertic", "dicoid" is currently the only recognized name for this mos.'''
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! colspan="10" |Changes to names that bear the anti- prefix
! colspan="10" |Changes to names that bear the anti- prefix
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!Name
!Name
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|selenic
|selenic
|Shorter name. An indirect reference to [[luna]] temperament; "selene" is Greek for "moon". The name "selenite" follows the same pattern of 1L 6s being named after a type of gemstone.
|Shorter name. An indirect reference to [[luna]] temperament; "selene" is Greek for "moon". The name "selenite" follows the same pattern of 1L 6s being named after a type of gemstone.
|Pun.
|Pun. Selenite is a mineral, not a type of gemstone.
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|1L 7s
|1L 7s
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! rowspan="2" |Old suggestions
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! rowspan="2" |Reasoning
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| rowspan="2" |mosh
| rowspan="2" |mosh
|7L 3s
|7L 3s
|'''zaltertic'''
|dicoid
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|3L 7s
|3L 7s
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