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== Theory == | |||
< | 47edo is the first edo that has two [[5L 2s|diatonic]] perfect fifths, as both fall between {{nowrap|4\7 {{=}} 686{{c}}}} and {{nowrap|3\5 {{=}} 720{{c}}}}. The fifth closest to [[3/2]] is 12.593-cent flat, unless you use the alternative fifth which is 12.939-cent sharp, similar to [[35edo]]. The soft diatonic scale generated from its flat fifth is so soft, with {{nowrap|L:s {{=}} 7:6}}, that it stops sounding like [[meantone]] or even a [[flattone]] system like [[26edo]] or [[40edo]], but just sounds like a [[circulating temperament]] of [[7edo]]. The hard diatonic scale generated from its sharp fifth is extremely hard, with {{nowrap|L:s {{=}} 9:1}}. It has therefore not aroused much interest, but its best approximation to [[9/8]] is actually quite good, one-third-of-a-cent sharp. | ||
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47edo is one of the most difficult diatonic edos to notate in [[native fifth notation|native fifths]], because no other diatonic edo's fifth is as extreme. | |||
=== Odd harmonics === | |||
{{Harmonics in equal|47}} | |||
47edo does a good job of approximating the 2.9.5.7.33.13.17.57.69 23-limit [[k*N subgroups|2*47 subgroup]] of the [[23-limit]], on which it tempers out the same commas as [[94edo]]. It provides a good tuning for [[baldy]] and [[silver]] and their relatives. It also provides a good tuning for the [[baseball]] temperament. | |||
47edo can be treated as a [[dual-fifth system]] in the 2.3+.3-.5.7.13 subgroup, or the 3+.3-.5.7.11+.11-.13 subgroup for those who aren’t intimidated by lots of [[basis element]]s. As a dual-fifth system, it really shines, as both of its fifths have low enough [[harmonic entropy]] to sound [[consonant]] to many listeners, giving two consonant intervals for the price of one. | |||
=== Subsets and supersets === | |||
47edo is the 15th [[prime edo]], following [[43edo]] and preceding [[53edo]], so it does not contain any nontrivial subset edos, though it contains [[47ed4]]. [[94edo]], which doubles it, corrects its approximations of harmonics 3 and 11 to near-just qualities. | |||
== Intervals == | |||
{| class="wikitable center-all right-2" | |||
|- | |||
! [[Degree|#]] | |||
! [[Cent]]s | |||
! colspan="2" | Relative notation | |||
! Absolute notation | |||
|- | |||
| 0 | |||
| 0.0 | |||
| perfect unison | |||
| P1 | |||
| D | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 25.5 | |||
| aug 1sn | |||
| A1 | |||
| D# | |||
|- | |||
| 2 | |||
| 51.1 | |||
| double-aug 1sn | |||
| AA1 | |||
| Dx | |||
|- | |||
| 3 | |||
| 76.6 | |||
| triple-aug 1sn, triple-dim 2nd | |||
| A<sup>3</sup>1, d<sup>3</sup>2 | |||
| D#<sup>3</sup>, Eb<sup>4</sup> | |||
|- | |||
| 4 | |||
| 102.1 | |||
| double-dim 2nd | |||
| dd2 | |||
| Eb<sup>3</sup> | |||
|- | |||
| 5 | |||
| 127.7 | |||
| dim 2nd | |||
| d2 | |||
| Ebb | |||
|- | |||
| 6 | |||
| 153.2 | |||
| minor 2nd | |||
| m2 | |||
| Eb | |||
|- | |||
| 7 | |||
| 178.7 | |||
| major 2nd | |||
| M2 | |||
| E | |||
|- | |||
| 8 | |||
| 204.3 | |||
| aug 2nd | |||
| A2 | |||
| E# | |||
|- | |||
| 9 | |||
| 229.8 | |||
| double-aug 2nd | |||
| AA2 | |||
| Ex | |||
|- | |||
| 10 | |||
| 255.3 | |||
| triple-aug 2nd, triple-dim 3rd | |||
| A<sup>3</sup>2, d<sup>3</sup>3 | |||
| E#<sup>3</sup>, Fb<sup>3</sup> | |||
|- | |||
| 11 | |||
| 280.9 | |||
| double-dim 3rd | |||
| dd3 | |||
| Fbb | |||
|- | |||
| 12 | |||
| 306.4 | |||
| dim 3rd | |||
| d3 | |||
| Fb | |||
|- | |||
| 13 | |||
| 331.9 | |||
| minor 3rd | |||
| m3 | |||
| F | |||
|- | |||
| 14 | |||
| 357.4 | |||
| major 3rd | |||
| M3 | |||
| F# | |||
|- | |||
| 15 | |||
| 383.0 | |||
| aug 3rd | |||
| A3 | |||
| Fx | |||
|- | |||
| 16 | |||
| 408.5 | |||
| double-aug 3rd | |||
| AA3 | |||
| F#<sup>3</sup> | |||
|- | |||
| 17 | |||
| 434.0 | |||
| triple-aug 3rd, triple-dim 4th | |||
| A<sup>3</sup>3, d<sup>3</sup>4 | |||
| F#<sup>4</sup>, Gb<sup>3</sup> | |||
|- | |||
| 18 | |||
| 459.6 | |||
| double-dim 4th | |||
| dd4 | |||
| Gbb | |||
|- | |||
| 19 | |||
| 485.1 | |||
| dim 4th | |||
| d4 | |||
| Gb | |||
|- | |||
| 20 | |||
| 510.6 | |||
| perfect 4th | |||
| P4 | |||
| G | |||
|- | |||
| 21 | |||
| 536.2 | |||
| aug 4th | |||
| A4 | |||
| G# | |||
|- | |||
| 22 | |||
| 561.7 | |||
| double-aug 4th | |||
| AA4 | |||
| Gx | |||
|- | |||
| 23 | |||
| 587.2 | |||
| triple-aug 4th | |||
| A<sup>3</sup>4 | |||
| G#<sup>3</sup> | |||
|- | |||
| 24 | |||
| 612.8 | |||
| triple-dim 5th | |||
| d<sup>3</sup>5 | |||
| Ab<sup>3</sup> | |||
|- | |||
| 25 | |||
| 638.3 | |||
| double-dim 5th | |||
| dd5 | |||
| Abb | |||
|- | |||
| 26 | |||
| 663.8 | |||
| dim 5th | |||
| d5 | |||
| Ab | |||
|- | |||
| 27 | |||
| 689.4 | |||
| perfect 5th | |||
| P5 | |||
| A | |||
|- | |||
| 28 | |||
| 714.9 | |||
| aug 5th | |||
| A5 | |||
| A# | |||
|- | |||
| 29 | |||
| 740.4 | |||
| double-aug 5th | |||
| AA5 | |||
| Ax | |||
|- | |||
| 30 | |||
| 766.0 | |||
| triple-aug 5th, triple-dim 6th | |||
| A<sup>3</sup>5, d<sup>3</sup>6 | |||
| A#<sup>3</sup>, Bb<sup>4</sup> | |||
|- | |||
| 31 | |||
| 791.5 | |||
| double-dim 6th | |||
| dd6 | |||
| Bb<sup>3</sup> | |||
|- | |||
| 32 | |||
| 817.0 | |||
| dim 6th | |||
| d6 | |||
| Bbb | |||
|- | |||
| 33 | |||
| 842.6 | |||
| minor 6th | |||
| m6 | |||
| Bb | |||
|- | |||
| 34 | |||
| 868.1 | |||
| major 6th | |||
| M6 | |||
| B | |||
|- | |||
| 35 | |||
| 893.6 | |||
| aug 6th | |||
| A6 | |||
| B# | |||
|- | |||
| 36 | |||
| 919.1 | |||
| double-aug 6th | |||
| AA6 | |||
| Bx | |||
|- | |||
| 37 | |||
| 944.7 | |||
| triple-aug 6th, triple-dim 7th | |||
| A<sup>3</sup>6, d<sup>3</sup>7 | |||
| B#<sup>3</sup>, Cb<sup>3</sup> | |||
|- | |||
| 38 | |||
| 970.2 | |||
| double-dim 7th | |||
| dd7 | |||
| Cbb | |||
|- | |||
| 39 | |||
| 995.7 | |||
| dim 7th | |||
| d7 | |||
| Cb | |||
|- | |||
| 40 | |||
| 1021.3 | |||
| minor 7th | |||
| m7 | |||
| C | |||
|- | |||
| 41 | |||
| 1046.8 | |||
| major 7th | |||
| M7 | |||
| C# | |||
|- | |||
| 42 | |||
| 1072.3 | |||
| aug 7th | |||
| A7 | |||
| Cx | |||
|- | |||
| 43 | |||
| 1097.9 | |||
| double-aug 7th | |||
| AA7 | |||
| C#<sup>3</sup> | |||
|- | |||
| 44 | |||
| 1123.4 | |||
| triple-aug 7th, triple-dim 8ve | |||
| A<sup>3</sup>7, d<sup>3</sup>8 | |||
| C#<sup>4</sup>, Db<sup>3</sup> | |||
|- | |||
| 45 | |||
| 1148.9 | |||
| double-dim 8ve | |||
| dd8 | |||
| Dbb | |||
|- | |||
| 46 | |||
| 1174.5 | |||
| dim 8ve | |||
| d8 | |||
| Db | |||
|- | |||
| 47 | |||
| 1200.0 | |||
| perfect 8ve | |||
| P8 | |||
| D | |||
|} | |||
== Notation == | |||
A notation using the best 5th has major and minor 2nds of 7 and 6 edosteps respectively, with the naturals creating a 7edo-like scale: | |||
D * * * * * * E * * * * * F * * * * * * G * * * * * * A * * * * * * B * * * * * C * * * * * * D | |||
D# is next to D. This notation requires triple, quadruple and in some keys, quintuple or more sharps and flats. For example, a 0-15-27-38 chord (an approximate 4:5:6:7) on the note three edosteps above D would be spelled either as D#<sup>3</sup> - F#<sup>5</sup> - A#<sup>3</sup> - C# or as Eb<sup>4</sup> - Gbb - Ab<sup>4</sup> - Db<sup>6</sup>. This is an aug-three double-dim-seven chord, written D#<sup>3</sup>(A3)dd7 or Eb<sup>4</sup>(A3)dd7. It could also be called a sharp-three triple-flat-seven chord, written D#<sup>3</sup>(#3)b<sup>3</sup>7 or Eb<sup>4</sup>(#3)b<sup>3</sup>7. | |||
Using the 2nd best 5th is even more awkward. The major 2nd is 9 edosteps and the minor is only one. The naturals create a 5edo-like scale, with two of the notes inflected by a comma-sized edostep: | |||
D * * * * * * * * E F * * * * * * * * G * * * * * * * * A * * * * * * * * B C * * * * * * * * D | |||
D# is next to E. This notation requires quadruple, quintuple, and even sextuple ups and downs, as well as single sharps and flats. | |||
=== Ups and downs notation === | |||
Using [[Helmholtz–Ellis]] accidentals and the sharp fifth, 47edo can be notated using [[ups and downs notation|ups and downs]]: | |||
{{Sharpness-sharp8}} | |||
With the flat fifth, notation is identical to standard notation: | |||
{{Sharpness-sharp1}} | |||
=== Sagittal notation === | |||
==== Best fifth notation ==== | |||
This notation uses the same sagittal sequence as [[42edo#Second-best fifth notation|42b]]. | |||
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File:47-EDO_Sagittal.svg | |||
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default [[File:47-EDO_Sagittal.svg]] | |||
</imagemap> | |||
==== Second-best fifth notation ==== | |||
===== Evo and Revo flavors ===== | |||
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File:47b_Sagittal.svg | |||
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rect 280 0 440 80 [https://sagittal.org#periodic-table Periodic table of EDOs with sagittal notation] | |||
rect 20 80 300 106 [[Fractional_3-limit_notation#Bad-fifths_apotome-fraction_notation | apotome-fraction notation]] | |||
default [[File:47b_Sagittal.svg]] | |||
</imagemap> | |||
===== Alternative Evo flavor ===== | |||
<imagemap> | |||
File:47b_Alternative_Evo_Sagittal.svg | |||
desc none | |||
rect 80 0 300 50 [[Sagittal_notation]] | |||
rect 389 0 549 80 [https://sagittal.org#periodic-table Periodic table of EDOs with sagittal notation] | |||
rect 20 80 389 106 [[Fractional_3-limit_notation#Bad-fifths_apotome-fraction_notation | apotome-fraction notation]] | |||
default [[File:47b_Alternative_Evo_Sagittal.svg]] | |||
</imagemap> | |||
===== Evo-SZ flavor ===== | |||
<imagemap> | |||
File:47b_Evo-SZ_Sagittal.svg | |||
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default [[File:47b_Evo-SZ_Sagittal.svg]] | |||
</imagemap> | |||
== Scales == | |||
* [[Negri in zeta-stretched 47edo]] | |||
* Quasi-equal [[equiheptatonic]] (Dorian): 7 6 7 7 7 6 7 | |||
** Quasi-equiheptatonic minor pentatonic: 13 7 7 13 7 | |||
* Quasi-equal [[equiheptatonic]] (Mixolydian): 7 7 6 7 7 6 7 | |||
* Quasi-equal [[equipentatonic]]: 9 10 9 10 9 | |||
* Sabertooth hexatonic: 3 9 3 13 12 7 (this is the original/default tuning; [[scalesmith|designed]] for the "gold" and "platinum" timbres in [[Scale Workshop]]) | |||
** Sabertooth pentatonic: 3 9 3 13 19 (this is the original/default tuning) | |||
** Sabertooth neutral: 3 11 14 11 8 (this is the original/default tuning) | |||
== Instruments == | |||
=== Lumatone === | |||
* [[Lumatone mapping for 47edo]] | |||
=== Skip fretting === | |||
'''Skip fretting system 47 3 11''' is a [[skip-fretting]] system for [[47edo]] where strings are 11\47 and frets are 3\47. This is effectively 15.6666...-edo. All examples of this system on this page are for 5-string bass. | |||
; Chords | |||
Neutral-dominant 7th: 1 0 1 2 2 | |||
== Music == | |||
* [https://youtu.be/_TqaWw7tv_E Improvisation in 47edo (octave-compressed tuning, 7-note subset of Negri[9<nowiki>]</nowiki>)] by [[Budjarn Lambeth]], Jan 2024 | |||
[[Category:Listen]] | |||
[[Category:Todo:add rank 2 temperaments table]] |