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: I have left out some details and matrix transposes. Hopefully this helps clear things up. | : I have left out some details and matrix transposes. Hopefully this helps clear things up. | ||
:-[[User:Sintel|Sintel]] ([[User talk:Sintel|talk]]) 00:51, 18 December 2021 (UTC) | :-[[User:Sintel|Sintel]] ([[User talk:Sintel|talk]]) 00:51, 18 December 2021 (UTC) | ||
:: Thanks as always Sintel. I haven't taken the time to add this to the main page because I haven't understood it fully myself yet. But you are welcome to do so. --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 19:05, 20 January 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Simpler algorithm == | |||
The algorithm given in the text is needlessly complex. I will give a simpler one here: | |||
Given a saturated mapping matrix M, calculate the Smith normal form: | |||
<math> | |||
D = LMR | |||
</math> | |||
where D is rectangular diagonal and L, R are unimodular. The transversals can be found as the columns of X: | |||
<math> | |||
X = R D^{\mathsf T} L | |||
</math> | |||
It works because we have: | |||
<math> | |||
D = LMR \\ | |||
\Rightarrow M = L^{-1}DR^{-1} | |||
</math> | |||
Because L and R are invertible in <math>\mathbb{Z}</math>, by the definition of the Smith normal form. We want to solve: | |||
<math> | |||
MX = I \\ | |||
\Rightarrow L^{-1}DR^{-1}X = I \\ | |||
\Rightarrow DR^{-1}X = L | |||
</math> | |||
Now the upper left submatrix of <math>D^{\mathsf T}D</math> is identity iff M is saturated, so: | |||
<math> | |||
\Rightarrow R^{-1}X = D^{\mathsf T} L \\ | |||
\Rightarrow X = R D^{\mathsf T} L \quad \text{qed.} | |||
</math> | |||
-[[User:Sintel|Sintel]] ([[User talk:Sintel|talk]]) 18:51, 18 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
: Love it! I've added my interpretation of this to the main page. Feel free to tweak if you see necessary. --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 19:05, 20 January 2022 (UTC) |