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{{Infobox Interval
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">In [[5-limit]] [[Just Intonation]], 27/20 is an interval measuring about 519.6¢. It differs from the [[4_3|4/3]] perfect fourth by [[81_80|81/80]] (about 21.5¢), the syntonic comma. It arises naturally in JI as (for instance) the difference between a 5-limit major third and a stack of five [[3_2|3/2]] perfect fifths. In [[12edo]] and [[meantone]] systems, this interval would be no different from 4/3, as the syntonic comma is tempered out. 27/20 has been described as a "wolf" interval, implying that it "howls," as compared to simpler intervals within the 5-limit such as [[5_4|5/4]] and [[9_8|9/8]]. Although in a 5-limit context it is traditionally avoided, it can be an essential interval in a harmonic context of higher complexity, where it may be admired for its bright and active character and its distinctness from 4/3.


See: [[Gallery of Just Intervals]]</pre></div>
In [[5-limit]] [[just intonation]], '''27/20''', the '''classic acute fourth''', is an interval measuring about 519.6{{cent}}. It differs from the [[4/3]] perfect fourth by [[81/80]] (about 21.5{{cent}}), the syntonic comma. It arises naturally in JI as (for instance) the difference between a 5-limit major third and a stack of five [[3/2]] perfect fifths, or as the interval between [[10/9]] and [[3/2]]. In [[12edo]] and [[meantone]] systems, this interval would be no different from 4/3, as the syntonic comma is tempered out. 27/20 has been described as a "wolf" interval, implying that it "howls", as compared to simpler intervals within the 5-limit such as [[5/4]] and [[9/8]]. Although in a 5-limit context it is traditionally avoided, it can be an essential interval in a harmonic context of higher complexity, where it may be admired for its bright and active character and its distinctness from 4/3.
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== Approximation ==
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;27_20&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;In &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5-limit"&gt;5-limit&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Just%20Intonation"&gt;Just Intonation&lt;/a&gt;, 27/20 is an interval measuring about 519.. It differs from the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/4_3"&gt;4/3&lt;/a&gt; perfect fourth by &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/81_80"&gt;81/80&lt;/a&gt; (about 21.), the syntonic comma. It arises naturally in JI as (for instance) the difference between a 5-limit major third and a stack of five &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/3_2"&gt;3/2&lt;/a&gt; perfect fifths. In &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo"&gt;12edo&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/meantone"&gt;meantone&lt;/a&gt; systems, this interval would be no different from 4/3, as the syntonic comma is tempered out. 27/20 has been described as a &amp;quot;wolf&amp;quot; interval, implying that it &amp;quot;howls,&amp;quot; as compared to simpler intervals within the 5-limit such as &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5_4"&gt;5/4&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/9_8"&gt;9/8&lt;/a&gt;. Although in a 5-limit context it is traditionally avoided, it can be an essential interval in a harmonic context of higher complexity, where it may be admired for its bright and active character and its distinctness from 4/3.&lt;br /&gt;
{{Interval edo approximation|27/20}}
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See: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Gallery%20of%20Just%20Intervals"&gt;Gallery of Just Intervals&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
== Trivia ==
This ratio is the difference between two common record speeds (45 rpm and "33" rpm). As such, alterations by this interval often occur when a record is played at the wrong speed.
 
== See also ==
* [[40/27]] – its [[octave complement]]
* [[10/9]] – its [[fifth complement]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]
 
[[Category:Fourth]]

Latest revision as of 02:49, 1 December 2025

Interval information
Ratio 27/20
Factorization 2-2 × 33 × 5-1
Monzo [-2 3 -1
Size in cents 519.5513¢
Names wolf fourth,
classic acute fourth
Color name g4, gu 4th
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{P4}_{5} }[/math]
Special properties reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 9.07682
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 9.50978
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 18

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In 5-limit just intonation, 27/20, the classic acute fourth, is an interval measuring about 519.6 ¢. It differs from the 4/3 perfect fourth by 81/80 (about 21.5 ¢), the syntonic comma. It arises naturally in JI as (for instance) the difference between a 5-limit major third and a stack of five 3/2 perfect fifths, or as the interval between 10/9 and 3/2. In 12edo and meantone systems, this interval would be no different from 4/3, as the syntonic comma is tempered out. 27/20 has been described as a "wolf" interval, implying that it "howls", as compared to simpler intervals within the 5-limit such as 5/4 and 9/8. Although in a 5-limit context it is traditionally avoided, it can be an essential interval in a harmonic context of higher complexity, where it may be admired for its bright and active character and its distinctness from 4/3.

Approximation

Edo approximations for 27/20 (519.55 ¢)
≤ 80edo, relative error ≤ 10%
Edo Step size Cents (¢) Absolute error (¢) Relative error (%)
7 3\7 514.29 -5.27 -3.07
14 6\14 514.29 -5.27 -6.14
16 7\16 525.00 +5.45 +7.26
21 9\21 514.29 -5.27 -9.21
23 10\23 521.74 +2.19 +4.19
30 13\30 520.00 +0.45 +1.12
37 16\37 518.92 -0.63 -1.95
44 19\44 518.18 -1.37 -5.02
46 20\46 521.74 +2.19 +8.39
51 22\51 517.65 -1.90 -8.09
53 23\53 520.75 +1.20 +5.32
60 26\60 520.00 +0.45 +2.24
67 29\67 519.40 -0.15 -0.83
74 32\74 518.92 -0.63 -3.90
76 33\76 521.05 +1.50 +9.51

Trivia

This ratio is the difference between two common record speeds (45 rpm and "33" rpm). As such, alterations by this interval often occur when a record is played at the wrong speed.

See also