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== Blackwood + | == Blackwood + Decimal/Lemba Lumatone mappings == | ||
=== | === 10edo (demonstrated to work) === | ||
Since [[10edo]] is a tuning of [[blackwood]], a blackwood mapping can work (although it is not the most efficient in terms of note usage), as demonstrated in [https://bee-swarm-simulator.fandom.com/wiki/Onett_(Developer) Onett]'s [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EZCCjsjgCss ''Stick Bug''] (2019?) – microtonal cover in 10edo by [[Bryan Deister]] (2026). The scale is [[4L 2s]] with a 2:1 step ratio, as in [[decimal]] and [[lemba]] temperaments. The octaves slope up with the rows (as expected for Blackwood) or slightly downwards with the scale, and the range is just under 6 octaves, with the potential for division into multiple manuals (although the upper and lower ones will necessarily be partial or wedge-shaped, depending upon details of the division). | |||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n= | {{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=10|start=0|xstep=2|ystep=-1}} | ||
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== Meantone Lumatone mappings == | |||
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=== | === Rotated Meantone Lumatone mappings === | ||
==== 88edo (demonstrated to work) ==== | |||
{{ | Since [[88edo]] is too large for the normal Standard Lumatone Mapping for Pythagorean to get all the notes, while the [[7L 2s]] mapping may cause excessive stretching of the fingers for some people, another possibility is to rotate the Lumatone to make the [[5L 2s]] scale (14:9 step ratio) run down-right and down, as demonstrated in {{W|Nobuo Uematsu}}'s [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/d3v6ji8EqQ8 ''The Extreme''] from ''{{W|Final Fantasy VIII}}'' (1999) – microtonal cover in 88edo by [[Bryan Deister]] (2026). This layout yields just under 2⅛ complete octaves with no missing notes and very few repeated note, although the upper left and lower right corners both have a large number of notes in partial octaves below and above these, due to the lopsidedness of the mapping; if the Lumatone is not rotated, the octaves slope down, but if the Lumatone is rotated 90° left as shown in the video, then the octaves proceed upward with a rightward slant. | ||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=88|start=9|xstep=5|ystep=9}} | |||
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== Amavil Lumatone mappings == | == Amavil Lumatone mappings == | ||
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== | == Blackwood + Whitewood Lumatone mappings == | ||
=== | === 35edo (demonstrated to work) === | ||
[[ | A flipped version of the [[5L 5s]] (5:2 step ratio) [[blackwood]] + [[whitewood]] mapping is possible. The octaves slope upwards with the rows (as expected for blackwood mappings), and the range is a bit under 5½ octaves with no missed notes and some repeated notes to mitigate vertical wraparounds. [[Bryan Deister]] has used this mapping in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8doWEgXMCY ''35edo improv''] (2026). | ||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n= | {{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=35|start=3|xstep=7|ystep=-5}} | ||
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== Cantonismic Lumatone mappings == | == Cantonismic Lumatone mappings == | ||
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=== Rotated Meantone Lumatone mappings === | |||
==== 74edo (demonstrated to work) ==== | |||
One option for dealing with the large gamut of [[74edo]] on a standard-sized Lumatone is to flip and rotate the diatonic mapping, as demonstrated by [[Bryan Deister]] in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vi-KljzPkGs ''74edo improv''] (2026). The scale is still [[5L 2s]] with a 12:7 step ratio, but now the whole tones proceed down-right while the diatonic semitones proceed right. Each octave is still missing some notes, but due to the octave slope, they are different missing notes in each octave (other than the octaves chopped off by the upper left and lower right corners); the range is three mostly-complete octaves plus a bass octave of full compass but severely truncated gamut, plus a partial treble octave. | |||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=74|start=0|xstep=7|ystep=5}} | |||
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=== Meantone-related rank-3 Lumatone mappings === | === Meantone-related rank-3 Lumatone mappings === | ||
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== Niner + Diminished Lumatone mappings == | |||
=== 36edo (demonstrated to work) === | |||
It is possible to use the [[blackwood]] + [[whitewood]] mappings of [[35edo]] as inspiration for mapping [[36edo]] as a lattice, using its factors of closest size to those of 35edo, which are 4 and 9, as in [[niner]] + [[Diminished_(temperament)|diminished]] temperaments, with a [[4L 4s]] scale of step ratio 5:4 running right and down. Similarly to blackwood and whitewood, the octaves slope upwards with the rows, but even so the mapping works to give 5 octaves with some repeated notes to mitigate vertical wraparounds, with no missed notes except for one missed note 35 in the top otherwise contiguous octave. [[Bryan Deister]] has used this mapping in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KCtEYSkEK8U ''36edo improv''] (2026). | |||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=36|start=2|xstep=4|ystep=5}} | |||
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== Orwell mappings == | == Orwell mappings == | ||
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== | == Skwares (Compressed, Fibotonic) Lumatone mappings == | ||
=== | === 20edo (demonstrated to work) === | ||
[[Bryan Deister]] has | [[Bryan Deister]] has used a compressed [[Skwares]]) [[2L 1s]] (7:6 step ratio) mapping for [[20edo]], as demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFUTeFs7Ycg ''20edo groove''] (2025). In the version of Skwares used for this, instead of substantially sharpening the undecimal major third ~[[14/11]] (or even a septimal major third ~[[9/7]]) to get a diatonic fourth ~[[4/3]] (by stacking and octave-reducing four generators), the undecimal major third (7\20) is near-just, and the fourth is very flat at 480{{c}} (corresponding to the Blackwood sharp fifth at 720{{c}}). Octaves are nearly level (sloping down very gradually), and the range is a bit over 11 octaves, which suggests dividing the keyboard into zones for different instruments. | ||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n= | {{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=20|start=3|xstep=7|ystep=-1}} | ||
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== Squirrel Lumatone mappings == | == Squirrel Lumatone mappings == | ||
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== Tetracot (Compressed, Reverse-Chroma) Lumatone mappings == | |||
=== 75edo (demonstrated to work) === | |||
[[Bryan Deister]] has demonstrated a compressed [[1L 5s mapping of [[75edo]] in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-G2KkYfKLs&list=WL&index=343&pp=gAQBiAQB8AUB ''microtonal improvisation in 75edo''] (2025-06-22). This combines the temperament of [[Tetracot]] with the idea of the compressed [[Lumatone mapping for Porcupine]], by reversing the chroma. (This also contains the Tetracot [[6L 1s]] scale, but playing that scale in this layout requires backtracking.) This expands the overall range to more than five octaves, but too much so for anything so large as 75edo, thereby causing missed notes (although it demonstrates how such a mapping could shine for a smaller EDO or a hypothetical XL-sized Lumatone that has room for all of the notes). | |||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=75|start=17|xstep=11|ystep=9}} | |||
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== Tsaharuk (Schismatic) Lumatone mappings == | == Tsaharuk (Schismatic) Lumatone mappings == | ||