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Created page with "{{Infobox Interval | Ratio = 82944/78125 | Name = migmag, migmag comma | Comma = yes }} '''82944/78125''', proposed as the '''migmag''' or '''migmag comma''', is a large 5-limit comma measuring about 103.624 cents. It is the difference between four classic minor thirds and three classic major thirds: (6/5)<sup>4</sup>/(5/4)<sup>3</sup> = 82944/78125. Equivalently, it has monzo {{monzo| 10 4 -7 }}. It may also be gene..."
 
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== Temperaments ==
== Temperaments ==


[[Tempering out]] the migmag comma equates a stack of four classic minor thirds with a stack of three classic major thirds. In other words, the amount by which four [[6/5]] minor thirds exceed an octave is made to cancel the amount by which three [[5/4]] major thirds fall short of an octave.
[[Tempering out]] the migmag comma equates a stack of four classic minor thirds with a stack of three classic major thirds. In terms of its [[monzo]] {{monzo| 10 4 -7 }}, this means imposing the relation: 2<sup>10</sup> · 3<sup>4</sup> = 5<sup>7</sup>. It splits the [[3/2|perfect fifth]] into 7 semitones, three of which reach 6/5, and four semitones equals 5/4.


Using patent-val approximations to [[6/5]] and [[5/4]], the nontrivial [[edo]]s which temper out the migmag comma are [[11edo]], [[12edo]], [[13edo]], [[24edo]] and [[36edo]]. In [[11edo]], [[12edo]] and [[13edo]], for example, [[6/5]] maps to 3 steps and [[5/4]] maps to 4 steps, so four minor thirds and three major thirds both map to 12 steps.
Using octave-equivalent [[patent val]]s in the [[5-limit]], the only primitive [[edo]] which tempers out the migmag comma is [[12edo]]. Its multiples [[24edo]] and [[36edo]] also temper it out, but do not give new primitive edo temperaments for this comma.


For equal divisions of the [[tritave]], the corresponding [[edt]]s are [[18edt]], [[19edt]], [[20edt]], [[21edt]], [[37edt]], [[38edt]], [[39edt]] and [[57edt]].
In [[12edo]], [[6/5]] maps to 3 steps and [[5/4]] maps to 4 steps, so four minor thirds and three major thirds both map to 12 steps: 4 · 3 = 3 · 4.


Among odd equal divisions of [[4/1]], excluding the even cases equivalent to octave edos, the corresponding systems include [[23ed4]], [[25ed4]], [[47ed4]] and [[49ed4]].
Thus the migmag comma is tempered out in 12edo by equating the chain of four minor thirds with the chain of three major thirds.
 
It should be noted that [[11edo]] and [[13edo]] may appear to close the same relation if one rounds the sizes of [[6/5]] and [[5/4]] directly as intervals, but they do not temper out 82944/78125 under the 5-limit patent-val mapping.


== Etymology ==
== Etymology ==