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< [[Gallery of other tempered scales]]</small> | < [[Gallery of other tempered scales]]</small> | ||
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This page documents scales which were first described by users of the [[Xenharmonic Alliance]] Discord. | |||
== A17Forkybest303 35edo shower detemper == | == A17Forkybest303 35edo shower detemper == | ||
"35edo detemper using some weird idea i thought in the shower. its kind of a compromise between what i did with 23L 12s, 27L 8s and 79L 19s <7/1> mosses i did. this is just 35L 7s with the small steps coalesced to their average." | "[[35edo]] [[Detempering|detemper]] using some weird idea i thought in the shower. its kind of a compromise between what i did with 23L 12s, 27L 8s and 79L 19s <7/1> [[MOS scale|mosses]] i did. this is just 35L 7s with the small steps coalesced to their average." | ||
<pre> | <pre> | ||
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== Domin Zutsz-11 scale == | == Domin Zutsz-11 scale == | ||
The | The Zutsz-11 scale is a 10-tone [[2.3.7.11 subgroup|2.3.7.11]] just intonation scale. It was first described by [[Domin]] in July 2024 and then indpendently described again by [[Finky]] in December 2025. | ||
=== Music === | === Music === | ||
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2/1 | 2/1 | ||
</pre> | </pre> | ||
== 12-tone piano tunings recommended by DeltaQuartz (10L 2s diaschismic[12] & 3L 9s augmented[12]) == | |||
While not ''discovered'' by DeltaQuartz per se, the case they make for these is worth documenting. | |||
''"I just stumbled upon some pretty awesome 12-tone piano temperaments that feel like analogues to [[meantone]] but for sharp fifth tunings. One of them is for [[diaschismic]] tunings like {{EDOs|22edo, 34edo, 46edo,}} etc. with a 600c [[period]], giving sweet 5/4 thirds in 8 keys (the same as meantone), a pretty cozy way to explore their [[5-limit]] when these are often tunings that have bizarre layouts otherwise, and tritone sub-able in every key! The other is for [[augmented]] tunings like {{EDOs|15edo, 27edo, 39edo,}} etc. with a 400c period, giving every key the same major third and 6 keys an easy access harmonic 7th as their minor 7th.'' | |||
''34edo scale: https://scaleworkshop.plainsound.org/scale/-LxdqOHRh'' | |||
''39edo scale: https://scaleworkshop.plainsound.org/scale/-LxZNj2Ub'' | |||
''For MOS-minded folks, the first scale is [[10L 2s]], the second is [[3L 9s]]."'' | |||
== FilterNashi majorminth scales == | |||
{{Wikipedia|Hirajōshi scale}} | |||
"i found a scale tempered 352/351 suspiciously similar to Hirajoshi which is | |||
* 9/8 | |||
* 11/9 | |||
* 3/2 | |||
* 13/8 | |||
* 2/1 | |||
and 352/351 tempered. | |||
it's a better approximation than 1-9/8-6/5-3/2-8/5-2/1 known as Hirajoshi Just in the preset scale of [[Scale Workshop]]. | |||
i found a 6-note scale first and its subset of retrovert is suspiciously similar to Hirajoshi - the scale itself is: | |||
* 1-12/11-32/27-4/3-18/11-16/9-2, 352/351 tempered. | |||
so the scale i found was quite interesting because its a seven-note scale with every interval within [[13-odd-limit]] ([[Rank-3|rank3]])</pre> | |||
five-note scale found in [[352/351#Temperaments|majorminth]] (tempered 352/351 in the 2.3.11.13 subgroup TE tuning): | |||
* 205.931 | |||
* 345.590 | |||
* 702.798 | |||
* 842.456 | |||
* 1199.664" | |||
=== Seven-note versions === | |||
"these two scales are called [[paranice]], due to sharing the same pattern with [[nicetone]]. | |||
* [https://scaleworkshop.plainsound.org/scale/RruKXVr-R Scale Workshop link 1] | |||
* [https://scaleworkshop.plainsound.org/scale/Rruj0WZvc Scale Workshop link 2]" | |||
== finky6319's fun jazzy pentatonic scale == | |||
* Intervals: 7/6 21/16 11/8 7/4 2/1 | |||
* [[Scale Workshop]] link: https://scaleworkshop.plainsound.org/scale/ZhwE7mmId | |||
* Properties: Subset of [[16afdo]] | |||
== Maeve Gutierrez == | |||
''see [[Maeve Gutierrez]].'' | |||
== MrTheKing 11:13:16:17:19:22 scale == | |||
A simple 19-limit pentatonic subset of mode 11 of the harmonic series ([[11afdo]]) described by [[mrtheking]] in December 2025. | |||
<pre> | |||
13/11 | |||
16/11 | |||
17/11 | |||
19/11 | |||
22/11 | |||
</pre> | |||
== Tristanbay 12-tone no-5s 11-limit scale == | |||
<pre>33/32 | |||
9/8 | |||
7/6 | |||
77/64 | |||
21/16 | |||
11/8 | |||
3/2 | |||
14/9 | |||
77/48 | |||
7/4 | |||
11/6 | |||
2/1</pre> | |||
== Tristanbay 19-tone 2.3.7.17.19 scale == | == Tristanbay 19-tone 2.3.7.17.19 scale == | ||
<pre>57/56 | <pre>57/56 | ||
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== Tristanbay 41fg detemper == | == Tristanbay 41fg detemper == | ||
"41fg [[detemper]] with 2 copies of harmonic series mode 16 ([[16afdo]])." | "41fg [[detemper]] with 2 copies of harmonic series mode 16 ([[16afdo]])." ''(See [[warts]], [[41edo]].)'' | ||
<pre>49/48 | <pre>49/48 | ||
33/32 | 33/32 | ||
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2</pre> | 2</pre> | ||
== | == Xencoder over-23 primodal Hirajoshi == | ||
''(See [[primodality]], {{W|Hirajōshi scale}}.)'' | |||
* 51/46 | |||
* 28/23 | |||
* 34/23 | |||
* 73/46 | |||
2/1 | * 2/1 | ||
== Zhea Erose primodal Lydians == | |||
''Described by [[Zhea Erose]]. Recommended by [[Xencoder]].'' | |||
<pre> | |||
7b Lydian Heptad | |||
- 14:16:18:20:21:24:27:(28) | |||
- (+2+2+2+1+3+3+1), 2:3:4 concordance frame | |||
11b Lydian Heptad | |||
- 22:25:28:31:33:37:42:(44) | |||
- (+3+3+3+2+4+5+2), 2:3:4 concordance frame | |||
2e Lydian Heptad | |||
- 32:36:40:45:48:54:60:(64) | |||
- (+4+4+5+3+6+6+4), 2:3:4 concordance frame | |||
17b Lydian Heptad | |||
- 34:38:43:48:51:57:64:(68) | |||
- (+4+5+5+3+6+7+4), 2:3:4 concordance frame | |||
19b Lydian Heptad | |||
- 38:43:48:54:57:64:72:(76) | |||
- (+5+5+6+3+7+8+4), 2:3:4 concordance frame | |||
</pre> | |||
<pre> | |||
YAML | |||
some tridecimal scales in a few mos pre-images | |||
5L2s: | |||
lydian and lydian modmos | |||
26:29:33:37:39:44:49 tridecimal lydian | |||
26:28:33:37:39:44:49 tridecimal lydian b2 | |||
26:31:33:37:39:44:49 tridecimal lydian #2 | |||
26:32:33:37:39:44:49 tridecimal lydian hyper^2 | |||
26:29:33:37:41:44:49 tridecimal lydian #5 | |||
ionian | |||
26:29:33:35:39:44:49 tridecimal ionian | |||
26:28:33:35:39:44:49 tridecimal ionian b2 | |||
mixolydian | |||
26:29:33:35:39:44:46 tridecimal mixolydian | |||
26:29:33:35:39:41:46 tridecimal mixolydian b6 | |||
dorian | |||
26:29:31:35:39:44:46 tridecimal dorian | |||
26:28:31:35:39:44:46 tridecimal dorian b2 | |||
aeolian | |||
26:29:31:35:39:41:46 tridecimal aeolian | |||
6L1s: | |||
ryonian | |||
26:29:32:35:39:43:48 tridecimal ryonian | |||
mixoryonian | |||
26:29:32:35:39:43:46 tridecimal mixoryonian | |||
azurian | |||
26:29:32:35:39:42:46 tridecimal azurian | |||
locrial | |||
26:29:32:35:38:42:46 tridecimal locrial | |||
ionial | |||
26:29:32:34:38:42:46 tridecimal ionial | |||
duradian | |||
26:29:31:34:38:42:46 tridecimal duradian | |||
phyradian | |||
26:28:31:34:38:42:46 tridecimal phyradian | |||
5L3s: | |||
dylathian | |||
26:29:33:34:38:43:44:49 tridecimal dylathian | |||
3L2s: | |||
26:29:33:39:44 tridecimal maj pentatonic | |||
</pre> | |||
== z4wr autocoltraninatorathingamajig scales == | |||
* | ;autocoltraninatorathingamajig minor | ||
* https://scaleworkshop.plainsound.org/scale/eiwMlcYFN | |||
;autocoltraninatorathingamajig major | |||
* | * https://scaleworkshop.plainsound.org/scale/eiwEda8OT | ||
== | == z4wr-Cutting detempered blues scale == | ||
"blues scale detemper attempt in 11-limit based on [https://emusicology.org/article/id/4566/ blues scale analysis by court b cutting]" | |||
* | * https://scaleworkshop.plainsound.org/scale/newCtO1iy | ||
== | == 1madjack1's 'the block' and 'the tesseract'== | ||
''see [[ | ''see [[The block and the tesseract]].'' | ||
== | == 1madjack1's 'random stuff go' scale == | ||
<pre> | <pre> | ||
53.273 | |||
119.443 | |||
347.408 | |||
720.000 | |||
773.273 | |||
839.443 | |||
1067.408 | |||
1200.000 | |||
</pre> | </pre> | ||
= | 1madjack1 originally used a different word than 'stuff'. Nonetheless the scale they created (in April 2026) is of musical interest, approximating a bunch of [[13-limit]] intervals within 20 [[cents]] in its various rotations: | ||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
! | |||
!0 | |||
!1 | |||
!2 | |||
!3 | |||
!4 | |||
!5 | |||
!6 | |||
!7 | |||
!(8) | |||
|- | |||
!1/1 | |||
|1/1 | |||
|~32/31 | |||
|~14/13 | |||
|~11/9 | |||
|~3/2 | |||
|~11/7 | |||
|~13/8 | |||
|~11/6 | |||
|2/1 | |||
|- | |||
!~32/31 | |||
|1/1 | |||
|~26/25 | |||
|~13/11 | |||
|~22/15 | |||
|~3/2 | |||
|~11/7 | |||
|~9/5 | |||
|~31/16 | |||
|2/1 | |||
|- | |||
!~14/13 | |||
|1/1 | |||
|~8/7 | |||
|~7/5 | |||
|~16/11 | |||
|~3/2 | |||
|~19/11 | |||
|~13/7 | |||
|~25/13 | |||
|2/1 | |||
|- | |||
!~11/9 | |||
|1/1 | |||
|~5/4 | |||
|~9/7 | |||
|~4/3 | |||
|~3/2 | |||
|~13/8 | |||
|~27/16 | |||
|~7/4 | |||
|2/1 | |||
|- | |||
!~3/2 | |||
|1/1 | |||
|~32/31 | |||
|~14/13 | |||
|~11/9 | |||
|~4/3 | |||
|~15/11 | |||
|~7/5 | |||
|~8/5 | |||
|2/1 | |||
|- | |||
!~11/7 | |||
|1/1 | |||
|~26/25 | |||
|~13/11 | |||
|~9/7 | |||
|~4/3 | |||
|~11/8 | |||
|~11/7 | |||
|~31/16 | |||
|2/1 | |||
|- | |||
!~13/8 | |||
|1/1 | |||
|~8/7 | |||
|~16/13 | |||
|~14/11 | |||
|~4/3 | |||
|~3/2 | |||
|~13/7 | |||
|~25/13 | |||
|2/1 | |||
|- | |||
!~11/6 | |||
|1/1 | |||
|~13/12 | |||
|~9/8 | |||
|~7/6 | |||
|~4/3 | |||
|~13/8 | |||
|~27/16 | |||
|~7/4 | |||
|2/1 | |||
|} | |||
Budjarn Lambeth recommends [[20edo]], [[72afdo]], or [[85afdo]] (17x5 semi-[[primodality]]) as a tuning for this scale. He recommends the following, vaguely [[pelog]]-like subset for writing melodies: | |||
<pre> | <pre> | ||
119.443 | |||
347.408 | |||
720.000 | |||
839.443 | |||
1200.000 | |||
</pre> | |||
{{navbox scale gallery}} | {{navbox scale gallery}} | ||