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; In ''my personal subjective opinion'' | ; In ''my personal subjective opinion:'' | ||
The '''best-sounding''' tunings for most Japanese scales are: | The '''best-sounding''' tunings for most Japanese scales are: | ||
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Tunings that sound '''bad''' to me include: | Tunings that sound '''bad''' to me include: | ||
* The most obvious 5-limit [[just intonation]] interpetations of the scales: these have too many [[wolf interval|wolf]] intervals-between-intervals | * The most obvious 5-limit [[just intonation]] interpetations of the scales: these have too many [[wolf interval|wolf]] intervals-between-intervals | ||
* [[Pythagorean]] and similar tunings (e.g. [[schismic]], [[garibaldi]], [[cassandra]], [[andromeda]], [[65edo]], [[53edo]], [[41edo]] - these have the same wolf problems as the just interpretations | * [[Pythagorean]] and similar tunings (e.g. [[schismic]], [[garibaldi]], [[cassandra]], [[andromeda]], [[65edo]], [[53edo]], [[41edo]]) - these have the same wolf problems as the just interpretations | ||
* Any meantone tuning with fifths flatter than 2/9-comma (e.g. [[31edo]], quarter-comma, [[50edo]], 1/3-comma) - these include some tritones which are a bit sharper than [[10/7]], and to my ears those just sound unbearably bitter | * Any meantone tuning with fifths flatter than 2/9-comma (e.g. [[31edo]], quarter-comma, [[50edo]], 1/3-comma) - these include some tritones which are a bit sharper than [[10/7]], and to my ears those just sound unbearably bitter | ||
* Any [[leapday]] tuning close to [[46edo]] - the 10/7 tritone gets too sharp which makes the whole scale too bitter, like in the flatter meantone tunings | * Any [[leapday]] tuning close to [[46edo]] - the 10/7 tritone gets too sharp which makes the whole scale too bitter, like in the flatter meantone tunings | ||
; For all these tunings, any note will work as the tonic but my favourite is | ; For all these tunings, any note will work as the tonic but my favourite is somewhere between 100 and 120 Hz (G#, Ab, A, A# or Bb). | ||
; For all these tunings, any timbre will work but I especially like the Scale Workshop "piano" aperiodic timbre with a percussive (medium) envelope and moderate reverb, as to me it sounds like a koto. | ; For all these tunings, any timbre will work but I especially like the [[Scale Workshop]] "piano" aperiodic timbre with a percussive (medium) envelope and moderate reverb, as to me it sounds like a {{w|koto}}. | ||
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; Minor pentatonic step pattern | ; Minor pentatonic step pattern | ||
Minor pentatonic or | Minor pentatonic or Min'yo | ||
<pre> | <pre> | ||
3\12 | 3\12 | ||
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Major pentatonic or | Major pentatonic or Ryosen | ||
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2\12 | 2\12 | ||
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Minor pentatonic or | Minor pentatonic or Min'yo | ||
<pre> | <pre> | ||
23\91 | 23\91 | ||
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Minor pentatonic or | Minor pentatonic or Min'yo | ||
<pre> | <pre> | ||
20\79 | 20\79 | ||
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</pre> | </pre> | ||
Minor pentatonic or | Minor pentatonic or Min'yo | ||
<pre> | <pre> | ||
17\67 | 17\67 | ||
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Major pentatonic or | Major pentatonic or Ryosen | ||
<pre> | <pre> | ||
9\55 | 9\55 | ||
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<pre> | <pre> | ||
14\55 | 14\55 | ||
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Major pentatonic or | Major pentatonic or Ryosen | ||
<pre> | <pre> | ||
16\98 | 16\98 | ||
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<pre> | <pre> | ||
25\98 | 25\98 | ||
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Major pentatonic or | Major pentatonic or Ryosen | ||
<pre> | <pre> | ||
7\43 | 7\43 | ||
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<pre> | <pre> | ||
11\43 | 11\43 | ||
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<pre> | <pre> | ||
19\74 | 19\74 | ||
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<pre> | <pre> | ||
27\105 | 27\105 | ||
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<pre> | <pre> | ||
17\70 | 17\70 | ||
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24\99 | 24\99 | ||
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Minor pentatonic or | Minor pentatonic or Min'yo | ||
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7\29 | 7\29 | ||
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Major pentatonic or | Major pentatonic or Ryosen | ||
<pre> | <pre> | ||
5\29 | 5\29 | ||
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25\104 | 25\104 | ||
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Minor pentatonic or | Minor pentatonic or Min'yo | ||
<pre> | <pre> | ||
18\75 | 18\75 | ||
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Major pentatonic or | Major pentatonic or Ryosen | ||
<pre> | <pre> | ||
36/32 | 36/32 | ||
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Minor pentatonic or | Minor pentatonic or Min'yo | ||
<pre> | <pre> | ||
38/32 | 38/32 | ||
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64/32 | 64/32 | ||
</pre> | </pre> | ||
== Music examples == | |||
; [[Budjarn Lambeth]] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISO3tO0MjLM ''Improvisation in a mode of han-kumoi (43edo, ~1/5-comma meantone)]'' (2025) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJkC1RKI3kg ''Improvisation in a mode of hirajoshi (43edo, ~1/5-comma meantone)]'' (2025) | |||
== To-do == | == To-do == | ||
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* Over-3, -5, -7, -11, -13, -17, -19 & -23 primodality | * Over-3, -5, -7, -11, -13, -17, -19 & -23 primodality | ||
** Semiprime modes of the above | ** Semiprime modes of the above | ||
* Compton in [[84edo]] & [[96edo]] | * [[Compton]][36] in [[60edo]], [[72edo]], [[84edo]] & [[96edo]] | ||
* [[User:BudjarnLambeth/Substitute harmonic|Narrowed compton]] tunings | * [[User:BudjarnLambeth/Substitute harmonic|Narrowed compton]] tunings | ||
* [[ | * [[Ripple]] tunings | ||
* [[ | * [[Passion]] tunings | ||
* [[Pajara]] | * [[Injera]] | ||
* [[ | * [[Diaschismic]] | ||
* [[Srutal]] | |||
* [[Pajara]] | |||
* [[Fog]] | |||
* [[Misty]] | |||
* [[August]] | |||
* [[Unlit]] | |||
* [[Undim]] | |||
* [[Bidia]] | |||
* [[Hexe]] | |||
== See also == | |||
* [[User:BudjarnLambeth/Trippy warped hirajoshi scale]] | |||
* [[37edo#Scales]] (has strange versions of hirajoshi and akebono I) | |||
{{ | {{Navbox scale gallery}} | ||
[[Category:5-tone scales]] | [[Category:5-tone scales]] | ||