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== Theory ==
== Theory ==
270edo is an extremely strong [[13-limit]] system, [[distinctly consistent]] through the [[15-odd-limit]] with all intervals in the 15-odd-limit being approximated with less than 25% relative error except [[15/13]] and [[26/15]] which barely miss (corresponding to the [[tempering out]] of [[676/675]]). This results in it being a record edo for [[Pepper ambiguity]] in the 11-, 13- and 15-odd-limit. It is [[The Riemann zeta function and tuning #Zeta EDO lists|the 11th zeta gap edo, the 13th zeta integral edo, the 23rd zeta peak edo, and the 18th zeta peak integer edo]], making it a strict zeta edo, and is the first [[Trivial temperament|non-trivial]] edo to be consistent in the 16-[[Odd prime sum limit|odd-prime-sum-limit]].  
270edo is an extremely strong [[13-limit]] system, [[distinctly consistent]] through the [[15-odd-limit]] and almost [[Consistency #Consistency to distance d|consistent to distance 2]] in it, missing [[15/13]] and [[26/15]] as they have 25.8% error ([[tempering out]] [[676/675]], [[CWE tuning|CWE]] yields only 0.4% error from 270edo for both intervals). It is the 11th [[zeta gap edo]], the 13th [[zeta integral edo]], the 23rd [[zeta peak edo]], and the 18th [[zeta peak integer edo]], making it a [[strict zeta edo]].  


In the [[5-limit]] it tempers out the [[ennealimma]], {{monzo| 1 -27 18 }}, the [[vulture comma]], {{monzo| 24 -21 4 }}, and the [[vishnuzma]] (a.k.a. semisuper comma), {{monzo| 23 6 -14 }}.  
In the [[5-limit]] it tempers out the [[ennealimma]], {{monzo| 1 -27 18 }}, the [[vulture comma]], {{monzo| 24 -21 4 }}, and the [[vishnuzma]], {{monzo| 23 6 -14 }}.  


In the [[7-limit]] it tempers out the [[2401/2400|breedsma]] (2401/2400), the [[4375/4374|ragisma]] (4375/4374), the [[wizma]] (420175/419904), and the [[landscape comma]] (250047/250000), so that it [[support]]s [[ennealimmal]] temperament. It also tempers out the [[quasiorwellisma]] (29360128/29296875) and the [[garischisma]] (33554432/33480783).  
In the [[7-limit]] it tempers out the [[breedsma]] (2401/2400), the [[ragisma]] (4375/4374), and by extension the [[wizma]] (420175/419904), and the [[landscape comma]] (250047/250000) so that it [[support]]s [[ennealimmal]] temperament. It also tempers out the [[quasiorwellisma]] (29360128/29296875) and the [[septischisma]] (33554432/33480783).  


In the [[11-limit]], it tempers out [[3025/3024]], [[5632/5625]], and [[9801/9800]], meaning it tempers out the four smallest [[superparticular]] commas in the 11-limit (2401/2400, 3025/3024, 4375/4374, and 9801/9800). In addition to these, it also tempers out both the [[nexus comma]] (1771561/1769472) and the [[quartisma]] (117440512/117406179), which, in turn means that the [[symbiotic comma]] (19712/19683) is tempered out as well.
In the [[11-limit]], it tempers out the [[lehmerisma]] (3025/3024), the [[vishdelisma]] (5632/5625), the [[kalisma]] (9801/9800), the [[symbiotic comma]] (19712/19683), the [[nexus comma]] (1771561/1769472), and the [[quartisma]] (117440512/117406179). It is almost consistent to distance 3 in the [[11-odd-limit]], only barely missing [[11/9]] (off by 16.68%).  


Finally, in the [[13-limit]] it is not quite as accurate but still very accurate, as it tempers out [[676/675]], [[1001/1000]], [[1716/1715]], and [[2080/2079]], making it an [[The Archipelago|archipelago]] tuning, and the [[optimal patent val]] for some of the archipelago temperaments such as [[hemiennealimmal]], [[vulture]], [[eagle]], and [[avicenna (temperament)|avicenna]].  
Finally, in the [[13-limit]] it is slightly worse but still excellent. It tempers out [[676/675]], [[1001/1000]], [[1716/1715]], and [[2080/2079]], making it an [[The Archipelago|archipelago]] tuning, and the [[optimal patent val]] for some of the archipelago temperaments such as [[hemiennealimmal]], [[vulture]], [[eagle]], and [[avicenna (temperament)|avicenna]].


The excellent tuning accuracy does not bar it from the utility of [[essentially tempered chord]]s, including [[sinbadmic chords]] in the 13-odd-limit, and [[island chords]] in the 15-odd-limit.  
The excellent tuning accuracy does not bar it from the utility of [[essentially tempered chord]]s, including [[sinbadmic chords]] in the 13-odd-limit, and [[island chords]] in the 15-odd-limit.  


Beyond the 13-limit, the approximated [[17/1|harmonic 17]] is more than 1/3-edostep sharp of just, and while the [[19/1|harmonic 19]] is accurately tuned, the [[23/1|harmonic 23]] is more than 1/3-edostep flat of just. [[17/13]], [[23/15]], and [[23/17]] are all the inconsistently approximated 23-odd-limit intervals, making 270edo a somewhat viable but tricky full 23-limit system. It tempers out [[715/714]], [[936/935]], [[1089/1088]], [[1225/1224]], [[1701/1700]], [[2025/2023]], [[2058/2057]], and [[2431/2430]] in the 17-limit; [[1216/1215]], [[1331/1330]], [[1521/1520]], [[1540/1539]], and [[1729/1728]] in the 19-limit; and [[460/459]], [[529/528]], [[736/735]], [[897/896]], [[1288/1287]], 1311/1309, and 1771/1768 in the 23-limit. The harmonics [[29/1|29]] and [[31/1|31]] are also more than 1/3-edostep sharp, but not as sharp as 17 to incur inconsistency with the lower primes. In fact, 270edo is consistent in the no-17 no-23 [[35-odd-limit]]. We may note that it tempers out [[784/783]], [[900/899]], and [[1024/1023]].  
Beyond the 13-limit, the approximated [[17/1|harmonic 17]] is more than 1/3-edostep, but the [[19/1|harmonic 19]] is very accurately tuned. [[17/13]] and its [[octave complement]] [[26/17]] are the only inconsistently approximated [[21-odd-limit]] intervals, each barely missing the mark (50.4% relative error). The [[23/1|harmonic 23]] is more than 1/3-edostep flat, which incurs more inconsistencies in the next odd limits yet makes 270edo viable but tricky for the full [[23-limit]]. It tempers out [[715/714]], [[936/935]], [[1089/1088]], [[1225/1224]], [[1701/1700]], [[2025/2023]], [[2058/2057]], and [[2431/2430]] in the [[17-limit]]; [[1216/1215]], [[1331/1330]], [[1521/1520]], [[1540/1539]], and [[1729/1728]] in the [[19-limit]]. If the full 23-limit is desired, then [[460/459]], [[529/528]], [[736/735]], [[897/896]], [[1288/1287]], 1311/1309, and 1771/1768 are further tempered out.  


On top of this, its step size is so small as to arguably give a good enough approximation for any relatively simple JI consonance, as the maximum error is only 2.{{overline|2}}¢. If, however, you want an edo for very high-limit use, the obvious alternative choice is [[311edo]], which is in many ways dual to 270edo as it emphasizes consistency and accuracy in very high-prime-limit and high-odd-limit situations at the expense of lower ones, and is a [[prime edo]] as opposed to a very composite one. While 270edo approximates the first 16 harmonics very accurately, 311edo approximates the first 42 but not as accurately – strongly favouring the approximation of as many harmonics as possible.
The harmonics [[29/1|29]] and [[31/1|31]] are also more than 1/3-edostep sharp, but not as sharp as the 17 to incur inconsistency ([[29/26]] and [[31/26]] are critically sharp but still consistent). This makes 270edo consistent in the no-17/13 no-23 [[35-odd-limit]]. Notably, it tempers out [[784/783]], [[900/899]], and [[1024/1023]], while inflating [[841/840]] and [[961/960]].
 
On top of this, its step size is small enough as to arguably give a good enough approximation for any relatively simple JI consonance (beyond the 13-limit on which it is spot on), as the maximum error (assuming consistency) is only 2.{{overline|2}}{{c}}, yet having a step size that ''can'' be [[just-noticeable difference|discernible]].
 
If, however, you want a edo for more rounded, consistent very high-limit use, the obvious alternative choice is [[311edo]], which is in many ways dual to 270edo as it emphasizes consistency and accuracy in very high-prime-limit and high-odd-limit situations at the expense of lower ones, and is a [[prime edo]] as opposed to a very composite one. While 270edo approximates the first 16 harmonics with astounding accuracy, 311edo approximates the first 42 but not as accurately – strongly favouring the approximation of as many harmonics as possible.


=== Prime harmonics ===
=== Prime harmonics ===
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== Intervals ==
== Intervals ==
As 270edo is a large edo, its intervals can be found on a separate page: [[table of 270edo intervals]].
As 270edo is a large edo, its intervals can be found on a separate page: [[Table of 270edo intervals]].
 
== Notation ==
== Notation ==
=== Ups and downs notation ===
=== Ups and downs notation ===
270edo can be notated using [[Kite's ups and downs notation|ups and downs]] with quarter-tone accidentals:
270edo can be notated using [[Kite's ups and downs notation|ups and downs]] with Stein-Zimmerman quarter-tone accidentals representing half-sharps and half-flats. These can be spoken as ''sha'' and ''fla''. For example, the note 12\270 above C is C downsha, and the note 39\270 above C is C shasharp.
{{Ups and downs sharpness|270|true}}
{{Ups and downs sharpness|270|true}}
=== Sagittal notation ===
<span data-darkreader-inline-color="">The</span> [[Sagittal notation]] <span data-darkreader-inline-color="">for 270edo uses symbols from the Promethean set. Since the apotome can be split in two, the Stein-Zimmermann half-sharp and half-flat may be used.</span>
{| class="wikitable center-all" data-darkreader-inline-color=""
! colspan="2" |+ edosteps
|1
|2
|3
|4
|5
|6
|7
|8
|9
|10
|11
|12
|13
|14
|15
|16
|17
|18
|19
|20
|21
|22
|23
|24
|25
|26
|-
! rowspan="3" |Symbol
!Evo-SZ
| rowspan="3" |<big>{{sagittal||(}}</big>
| rowspan="3" |<big>{{sagittal|)|(}}</big>
| rowspan="3" |<big>{{Sagittal|~|(}}</big>
| rowspan="3" |<big>{{Sagittal|~~|}}</big>
| rowspan="3" |<big>{{Sagittal|/|}}</big>
| rowspan="3" |<big>{{Sagittal||)}}</big>
| rowspan="3" |<big>{{sagittal||\}}</big>
| rowspan="3" |<big>{{sagittal|~|)}}</big>
| rowspan="3" |<big>{{sagittal|(|(}}</big>
| rowspan="3" |<big>{{sagittal|//|}}</big>
| rowspan="3" |<big>{{Sagittal|/|)}}</big>
| rowspan="3" |<big>{{Sagittal|/|\}}</big>
|<big>{{Sagittal|t}}</big>
|{{Sagittal||(}}{{sagittal|t}}
|{{Sagittal|)|(}}{{sagittal|t}}
| rowspan="2" |{{sagittal|\\!}}{{sagittal|#}}
| rowspan="2" |{{sagittal|(!(}}{{sagittal|#}}
| rowspan="2" |{{sagittal|~!)}}{{sagittal|#}}
| rowspan="2" |{{sagittal|!/}}{{sagittal|#}}
| rowspan="2" |{{sagittal|!)}}{{sagittal|#}}
| rowspan="2" |{{sagittal|\!}}{{sagittal|#}}
| rowspan="2" |{{sagittal|~~!}}{{sagittal|#}}
| rowspan="2" |{{sagittal|~!(}}{{sagittal|#}}
| rowspan="2" |{{sagittal|)!(}}{{sagittal|#}}
| rowspan="2" |{{sagittal|!(}}{{sagittal|#}}
| rowspan="2" |<big>{{Sagittal|#}}</big>
|-
!Evo
| rowspan="2" |<big>{{sagittal|)/|\}}</big>
| rowspan="2" |<big>{{Sagittal|(|)}}</big>
| rowspan="2" |<big>{{sagittal|(|\}}</big>
|-
!Revo
|<big>{{sagittal|)||(}}</big>
|<big>{{sagittal|~||(}}</big>
|<big>{{sagittal|)||~}}</big>
|<big>{{sagittal|/||}}</big>
|<big>{{Sagittal|||)}}</big>
|<big>{{Sagittal|||\}}</big>
|<big>{{sagittal|~||)}}</big>
|<big>{{sagittal|(||(}}</big>
|<big>{{sagittal|//||}}</big>
|<big>{{sagittal|/||)}}</big>
|<big>{{Sagittal|/||\}}</big>
|}
Note that the Revo notation has matching flag sequences between the double-shaft symbols and a subsequence of the single-shaft symbols.
<span data-darkreader-inline-color="">Alternate spellings in the Promethean set (comma tempered out):</span>
* <span data-darkreader-inline-color="">{{sagittal|)|}}</span> = <span data-darkreader-inline-color="">{{sagittal||(}}</span> (2621440/2617839)
* {{sagittal|)|(}} = {{sagittal|~|}} (1949696/1948617)
* {{Sagittal|/|}} = <span data-darkreader-inline-color="">{{sagittal|)|~}}</span> ([[1216/1215]])
* {{Sagittal|~|(}} = {{Sagittal|~~|}} (22528/22491)
* {{sagittal||\}} = {{sagittal|)|)}} ([[1540/1539]])
* {{sagittal|(|}} = {{sagittal|~|)}} ([[19712/19683]])
* {{sagittal|(|(}} = {{sagittal|~|\}} (20493/20480)
* {{Sagittal|/|)}} = {{sagittal|)//|}} = {{sagittal|(|~}} ([[729/728]]) (1540/1539)
* {{Sagittal|/|\}} = {{sagittal|(/|}} ([[131072/130977]]) ''([[3969/3968]])''
See [[Sagittal notation#Revo|apotome complements]] for equivalent accidental pairs.


== Approximation to JI ==
== Approximation to JI ==
=== 15-odd-limit interval mappings ===
=== 23-odd-limit interval mappings ===
{{15-odd-limit|270|15}}
{{15-odd-limit|270|23}}


=== Zeta peak index ===
=== Higher-limit JI ===
{{ZPI
270edo's approximation to higher harmonics, starting from 29, demonstrates a somewhat monotonous sharp tendency. This allows it to be considered as a temperament of very high limits – specifically the [[53-limit]]. In fact, 270edo is the first edo to be [[diamond monotone|monotonic]] in the 47- through 51-odd-limit, using the 270i val with the sharp mapping of 23.
| zpi = 1936
 
| steps = 270.017794631965
For primes 37 and 41, this means the pairs [[37/36]] and [[38/37]], and the pairs [[41/40]] and [[42/41]], are distinct, observing [[1369/1368]] ({{S|37}}) and [[1681/1680]] ({{S|41}}). In fact 38/37, [[39/38]], [[40/39]], and 41/40 are tempered together. The sharp mapping for prime 23 is required here so that [[37/33]] (198.071{{C}} just) is not tuned wider [[46/41]] (199.212{{C}} just). Prime 43 then fits naturally with 42/41, [[43/42]], [[44/43]], and [[45/44]] all tempered together, while 47 may be added such that [[48/47]] is tempered together with [[49/48]], [[50/49]], and [[51/50]]. Again the sharp mapping for prime 23 is required so that [[46/45]] is tempered together with 45/44 and that [[47/46]] is tempered together with 48/47. Prime 53, if desired, is tuned with [[51/50]]~[[53/52]] and [[52/51]]~[[54/53]], so monotonicity is unavoidably lost in the 53-odd-limit.
| step size = 4.44415154799558
| tempered height = 13.370691
| pure height = 12.895981
| integral = 1.998595
| gap = 22.286976
| octave = 1199.92091795881
| consistent = 22
| distinct = 22
}}


== Regular temperament properties ==
== Regular temperament properties ==
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|-
|-
| 2.3.5
| 2.3.5
| {{monzo| 23 6 -14 }}, {{monzo| 24 -21 4 }}
| {{Monzo| 23 6 -14 }}, {{monzo| 24 -21 4 }}
| {{mapping| 270 428 627 }}
| {{Mapping| 270 428 627 }}
| −0.1069
| −0.1069
| 0.0759
| 0.0759
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| 2.3.5.7
| 2.3.5.7
| 2401/2400, 4375/4374, 29360128/29296875
| 2401/2400, 4375/4374, 29360128/29296875
| {{mapping| 270 428 627 758 }}
| {{Mapping| 270 428 627 758 }}
| −0.0858
| −0.0858
| 0.0752
| 0.0752
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| 2.3.5.7.11
| 2.3.5.7.11
| 2401/2400, 3025/3024, 4375/4374, 5632/5625
| 2401/2400, 3025/3024, 4375/4374, 5632/5625
| {{mapping| 270 428 627 758 934 }}
| {{Mapping| 270 428 627 758 934 }}
| −0.0567
| −0.0567
| 0.0889
| 0.0889
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| 2.3.5.7.11.13
| 2.3.5.7.11.13
| 676/675, 1001/1000, 1716/1715, 3025/3024, 4096/4095
| 676/675, 1001/1000, 1716/1715, 3025/3024, 4096/4095
| {{mapping| 270 428 627 758 934 999 }}
| {{Mapping| 270 428 627 758 934 999 }}
| −0.0235
| −0.0235
| 0.1100
| 0.1100
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| 2.3.5.7.11.13.19
| 2.3.5.7.11.13.19
| 676/675, 1001/1000, 1216/1215, 1331/1330, 1540/1539, 1729/1728
| 676/675, 1001/1000, 1216/1215, 1331/1330, 1540/1539, 1729/1728
| {{mapping| 270 428 627 758 934 999 1147 }}
| {{Mapping| 270 428 627 758 934 999 1147 }}
| −0.0290
| −0.0290
| 0.1028
| 0.1028
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| 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
| 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
| 676/675, 715/714, 936/935, 1001/1000, 1225/1224, 4096/4095
| 676/675, 715/714, 936/935, 1001/1000, 1225/1224, 4096/4095
| {{mapping| 270 428 627 758 934 999 1104 }}
| {{Mapping| 270 428 627 758 934 999 1104 }}
| −0.0799
| −0.0799
| 0.1718
| 0.1718
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| 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
| 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
| 676/675, 715/714, 936/935, 1001/1000, 1216/1215, 1225/1224, 1331/1330
| 676/675, 715/714, 936/935, 1001/1000, 1216/1215, 1225/1224, 1331/1330
| {{mapping| 270 428 627 758 934 999 1104 1147 }}
| {{Mapping| 270 428 627 758 934 999 1104 1147 }}
| −0.0777
| −0.0777
| 0.1608
| 0.1608
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| 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23
| 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23
| 460/459, 529/528, 676/675, 715/714, 736/735, 936/935, 1001/1000, 1216/1215
| 460/459, 529/528, 676/675, 715/714, 736/735, 936/935, 1001/1000, 1216/1215
| {{mapping| 270 428 627 758 934 999 1104 1147 1221 }}
| {{Mapping| 270 428 627 758 934 999 1104 1147 1221 }}
| −0.0296
| −0.0296
| 0.2037
| 0.2037
| 4.58
| 4.58
|}
|}
* 270et has lower [[Tenney-Euclidean temperament measures #TE simple badness|relative errors]] than any previous equal temperaments in the 11-, 13-, 19-, and 23-limit. It is the first to beat [[72edo|72]] in the 11-limit, [[224edo|224]] in the 13-limit, and [[217edo|217]] in the 19- and 23-limit. The next equal temperament that does better in terms of either absolute or relative error in the 11-limit is [[342edo|342]], in the 13-limit [[494edo|494]], in the 23-limit [[282edo|282]], and in the 19-limit, [[311edo|311]] for absolute error and [[581edo|581]] for relative error.
* 270et has lower [[Tenney-Euclidean temperament measures #TE simple badness|relative errors]] than any previous equal temperaments in the 11-, 13-, 19-, and 23-limit. It is the first to beat [[72edo|72]] in the 11-limit, [[224edo|224]] in the 13-limit, and [[217edo|217]] in the 19- and 23-limit. The next equal temperament that has lower absolute or relative error in the 11-limit is [[342edo|342]], in the 13-limit [[494edo|494]], in the 23-limit [[282edo|282]]; and in the 19-limit, [[311edo|311]] for absolute error and [[581edo|581]] for relative error. It is also a record edo for [[Pepper ambiguity]] in the 11-, 13- and 15-odd-limit, and the edo with the lowest [[TE logflat badness]] in the 11-limit, 13-limit and 19-limit up until [[342edo]], [[96478edo]] and [[3395edo]] respectively.
* It is even more prominent in the 2.3.5.7.11.13.19 subgroup. Not until [[552edo|552]] do we reach a better equal temperament in terms of absolute error, and not until [[2190edo|2190]] do we reach one in terms of relative error.  
* 23-limit is not the subgroup it does best, with the no-23 29- and 31-limit approximated even better.  
* It is also prominent in the 17-limit, with lower absolute errors than any previous equal temperaments, despite inconsistency in the corresponding odd limit.  
* It is best in the 2.3.5.7.11.13.19 subgroup, having the least absolute error until [[552edo|552]], and the least relative error until [[2190edo|2190]].
* It is also notable in the 17-limit, with lower absolute errors than smaller equal temperaments despite inconsistency in the [[17-odd-limit|corresponding odd limit]].
 
=== Commas ===
{| class="commatable wikitable center-1 center-2 right-3 center-6"
! [[Harmonic limit|Prime<br>limit]]
! [[Ratio]]<ref group="note">{{rd}}</ref>
! [[Cent]]s
! [[Monzo]]
! colspan="2" | [[Kite's color notation|Color name]]
! Name(s)
|-
| 5
| <abbr title="10485760000/10460353203">[[Vulture comma|(22 digits)]]</abbr>
| 4.20
| {{Monzo| 24 -21 4 }}
| Sasaquadyo
| ssy<sup>4</sup>
| Vulture comma
|-
| 5
| [[Vishnu comma|(20 digits)]]
| 3.34
| {{Monzo| 23 6 -14 }}
| Sasepbigu
| sg<sup>14</sup>
| Vishnu comma
|-
| 7
| [[33554432/33480783|(16 digits)]]
| 3.80
| {{Monzo| 25 -14 0 -1 }}
| Sasaru
| ssr
| Septischisma
|-
| 7
| [[Quasiorwellisma|(16 digits)]]
| 3.73
| {{Monzo| 22 -1 -10 1 }}
| Sazoquinbigu
| szg<sup>10</sup>
| Quasiorwellisma
|-
| 7
| [[2401/2400]]
| 0.72
| {{Monzo| -5 -1 -2 4 }}
| Bizozogu
| z<sup>4</sup>gg
| Breedsma
|-
| 7
| [[4375/4374]]
| 0.40
| {{Monzo| -1 -7 4 1 }}
| Zoquadyo
| zy<sup>4</sup>
| Ragisma
|-
| 11
| <abbr title="94489280512/94143178827">[[Pythrabian comma|(22 digits)]]</abbr>
| 6.35
| {{Monzo| 33 -23 0 0 1 }}
| Trisalo
| s1o<sup>3</sup>
| Pythrabian comma
|-
| 11
| [[5632/5625]]
| 2.15
| {{Monzo| 9 -2 -4 0 1 }}
| Saloquagu
| s1og<sup>4</sup>
| Vishdelisma
|-
| 11
| [[Nexus comma|(12 digits)]]
| 2.04
| {{Monzo| -16 -3 0 0 6 }}
| Tribilo
| 1o<sup>3</sup>
| Nexus comma
|-
| 11
| [[3025/3024]]
| 0.57
| {{Monzo| -4 -3 2 -1 2 }}
| Loloruyoyo
| 1ooryy
| Lehmerisma
|-
| 11
| [[9801/9800]]
| 0.18
| {{Monzo| -3 4 -2 -2 2 }}
| Bilorugu
| (1org)<sup>2</sup>
| Kalisma
|-
| 13
| [[676/675]]
| 2.56
| {{Monzo| 2 -3 -2 0 0 2 }}
| Bithogu
| 3oogg
| Island comma, parizeksma
|-
| 13
| [[1001/1000]]
| 1.73
| {{Monzo| -3 0 -3 1 1 1 }}
| Tholozotrigu
| 3o1ozg<sup>3</sup>
| Fairytale comma, sinbadma
|-
| 13
| [[2080/2079]]
| 0.83
| {{Monzo| 5 -3 1 -1 -1 1 }}
| Tholuruyo
| 3o1ury
| Ibnsinma, sinaisma
|-
| 13
| [[4096/4095]]
| 0.42
| {{Monzo| 12 -2 -1 -1 0 -1 }}
| Sathurugu
| s3urg
| Minisma
|-
| 17
| [[12376/12375]]
| 0.14
| {{Monzo| 3 -2 -3 1 -1 1 1 }}
| Sotholuzotrigu
| 7o3o1uzg<sup>3</sup>
| Flashma
|-
| 19
| [[1216/1215]]
| 1.42
| 2.3.5.19 {{Monzo| 6 -5 -1 1 }}
| Sanogu
| s9og
| Password, Eratosthenes' comma
|-
| 19
| [[11859211/11859210|(16 digits)]]
| 0.00
| {{Monzo| -1 -4 -1 1 -4 1 0 4 }}
| <small>Quadno-athoquadlu-azogu</small>
| <small>9o<sup>4</sup>3o1u<sup>4</sup>zg</small>
| Tredekisma
|-
| 23
| [[529/528]]
| 3.24
| 2.3.11.23 {{monzo| -4 -1 -1 2 }}
| Bitwetho-alu
| 23oo1u
| Preziosisma
|-
| 29
| [[784/783]]
| 2.20
| 2.3.7.29 {{monzo| 4 -3 2 -1 }}
| Twenuzozo
| 23uzz
| Biminorisma
|-
| 31
| [[621/620]]
| 2.79
| 2.3.5.23.31 {{monzo| -2 3 -1 1 -1 }}
| Thiwutwethogu
| 31u23og
| Owowhatsthisma
|}
<references group="note"/>


=== Rank-2 temperaments ===
=== Rank-2 temperaments ===
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| 1
| 1
| 1\270
| 1\270
| 4.44
| 4.{{overline|4}}
| 385/384
| 385/384
| [[Keenanose]]
| [[Keenanose]]
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| 1
| 1
| 29\270
| 29\270
| 128.89
| 128.{{overline|8}}
| 14/13
| 14/13
| [[Tertiathirds]]
| [[Tertiathirds]]
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| 1
| 1
| 61\270
| 61\270
| 271.11
| 271.{{overline|1}}
| 90/77
| 90/77
| [[Quasiorwell]]
| [[Quasiorwell]]
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| 1
| 1
| 71\270
| 71\270
| 315.56
| 315.{{overline|5}}
| 6/5
| 6/5
| [[Acrokleismic]] / counteracro
| [[Acrokleismic]] / counteracro
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| 1
| 1
| 79\270
| 79\270
| 351.11
| 351.{{overline|1}}
| 49/40
| 49/40
| [[Newt]]
| [[Newt]]
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| 1
| 1
| 97\270
| 97\270
| 431.11
| 431.{{overline|1}}
| 77/60
| 77/60
| [[Lockerbie]]
| [[Lockerbie]]
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| 1
| 1
| 107\270
| 107\270
| 475.56
| 475.{{overline|5}}
| 25/19
| 25/19
| [[Vulture]]
| [[Vulture]]
|-
| 2
| 4\270
| 17.{{overline|7}}
| 99/98
| [[Quarvish]]
|-
|-
| 2
| 2
| 14\270
| 14\270
| 62.22
| 62.{{overline|2}}
| 28/27
| 28/27
| [[Eagle]]
| [[Eagle]]
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| 2
| 2
| 16\270
| 16\270
| 71.11
| 71.{{overline|1}}
| 25/24
| 25/24
| [[Vishnu]] / ananta / acyuta
| [[Vishnu]] / acyuta / ananta
|-
| 2
| 23\270
| 102.{{overline|2}}
| 35/33
| [[Gariwizmic]]
|-
|-
| 2
| 2
| 28\270
| 28\270
| 124.44
| 124.{{overline|4}}
| 275/256
| 275/256
| [[Semivulture]]
| [[Semivulture]]
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| 2
| 2
| 47\270
| 47\270
| 208.89
| 208.{{overline|8}}
| 44/39
| 44/39
| [[Abigail]]
| [[Abigail]]
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| 2
| 2
| 52\270
| 52\270
| 231.11
| 231.{{overline|1}}
| 8/7
| 8/7
| [[Orga]]
| [[Orga]]
|-
| 2
| 131\270<br>(4\270)
| 582.22<br>(17.78)
| 7/5<br>(99/98)
| [[Quarvish]]
|-
|-
| 3
| 3
| 17\270
| 17\270
| 75.56
| 75.{{overline|5}}
| 24/23
| 24/23
| [[Terture]]
| [[Terture]]
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| 3
| 3
| 31\270
| 31\270
| 137.78
| 137.{{overline|7}}
| 13/12
| 13/12
| [[Avicenna]]
| [[Avicenna]]
|-
|-
| 5
| 5
| 83\270<br>(25\270)
| 25\270
| 368.89<br>(111.11)
| 111.{{overline|1}}
| 1024/891<br>(16/15)
| 16/15
| [[Quintosec]]
| [[Quintosec]]
|-
|-
| 6
| 6
| 112\270<br>(4\270)
| 16\270
| 497.78<br>(97.78)
| 71.{{overline|1}}
| 4/3<br>(128/121)
| 25/24
| [[Trivish]]
|-
| 6
| 22\270
| 97.{{overline|7}}
| 128/121
| [[Sextile]]
| [[Sextile]]
|-
|-
| 9
| 9
| 71\270<br>(11\270)
| 11\270
| 315.56<br>(48.89)
| 48.{{overline|8}}
| 6/5<br>(36/35)
| 36/35
| [[Ennealimmal]] / ennealimmia
| [[Ennealimmal]] / enneabiotic / ennealympic
|-
|-
| 10
| 10
| 16\270<br>(11\270)
| 2\270
| 71.11<br>(48.89)
| 8.{{overline|8}}
| 25/24<br>(36/35)
| 196/195
| [[Decavish]]
| [[Decoid]]
|-
|-
| 10
| 10
| 56\270<br>(2\270)
| 10\270
| 248.89<br>(8.89)
| 44.{{overline|4}}
| 15/13<br>(176/175)
| 40/39
| [[Decoid]]
| [[Deca]]
|-
|-
| 10
| 10
| 71\270<br>(10\270)
| 11\270
| 315.56<br>(44.44)
| 48.{{overline|8}}
| 6/5<br>(40/39)
| 36/35
| [[Deca]]
| [[Decavish]]
|-
|-
| 18
| 18
| 71\270<br>(4\270)
| 2\270
| 248.89<br>(17.78)
| 8.{{overline|8}}
| 15/13<br>(99/98)
| 1287/1280
| [[Hemiennealimmal]]
| [[Semihemiennealimmal]]
|-
|-
| 18
| 18
| 71\270<br>(2\270)
| 4\270
| 475.56<br>(8.89)
| 17.{{overline|7}}
| 1053/800<br>(1287/1280)
| 99/98
| [[Semihemiennealimmal]]
| [[Hemiennealimmal]]
|-
|-
| 27
| 27
| 61\270<br>(1\270)
| 1\270
| 271.11<br>(4.44)
| 4.{{overline|4}}
| 1375/1176<br>(385/384)
| 385/384
| [[Trinealimmal]]
| [[Trinealimmal]]
|-
|-
| 30
| 30
| 82\270<br>(1\270)
| 1\270
| 364.44<br>(4.44)
| 4.{{overline|4}}
| 216/175<br>(385/384)
| 385/384
| [[Zinc]]
| [[Zinc]]
|-
| 30
| 2\270
| 8.{{overline|8}}
| 196/195
| [[Triacontoid]]
|-
|-
| 45
| 45
| 59\270<br>(1\270)
| 1\270
| 262.22<br>(4.44)
| 4.{{overline|4}}
| 64/55<br>(385/384)
| 385/384
| [[Rhodium]]
| [[Rhodium]]
|}
|}
<nowiki/>* [[Normal lists|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[Normal lists|minimal form]] in parentheses if distinct
<nowiki/>* In [[normal forms #Minimal-generator form|minimal-generator form]]


== Scales ==
== Scales ==
* [[Ennealimmal]][45]: 2 12 2 12 2 2 12 2 12 2 2 12 2 12 2 2 12 2 12 2 2 12 2 12 2 2 12 2 12 2 2 12 2 12 2 2 12 2 12 2 2 12 2 12 2
=== [[MOS]] scales ===
* [[Maeve Gutierrez#Gutierrez-Lambeth quasi-subharmonic pentatonic|Gutierrez-Lambeth quasi-subharmonic pentatonic]] (''octave reduced: 37 23 93 65 52'')
* [[Abigail]][86]: 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5
* [[Maeve Gutierrez#Moonglade scale|Gutierrez Moonglade scale]] (24 tones): 3 17 22 3 20 5 17 25 5 14 22 5 3 16 18 4 19 5 5 12 2 6 17 5  
* [[Avicenna]][96]: 3 3 3 3 3 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 1 3 3 3 3 3
* [[Eagle]][84]: 4 4 1 4 4 1 4 1 4 4 1 4 1 4 4 1 4 1 4 4 1 4 1 4 4 1 4 1 4 4 1 4 1 4 4 1 4 1 4 4 1 4 1 4 4 1 4 1 4 4 1 4 4 1 4 1 4 4 1 4 1 4 4 1 4 1 4 4 1 4 1 4 4 1 4 1 4 4 1 4 1 4 4 1 4 1 4 4 1 4 1 4 4 1 4 1
* [[Ennealimmal]][27]: 11 11 8 11 11 8 11 11 8 11 11 8 11 11 8 11 11 8 11 11 8 11 11 8 11 11 8
* Ennealimmal[45]: 8 3 8 3 8 8 3 8 3 8 8 3 8 3 8 8 3 8 3 8 8 3 8 3 8 8 3 8 3 8 8 3 8 3 8 8 3 8 3 8 8 3 8 3 8
* [[Quasiorwell]][84]: 1 7 1 1 7 1 7 1 1 7 1 1 7 1 7 1 1 7 1 1 7 1 1 7 1 7 1 1 7 1 1 7 1 7 1 1 7 1 1 7 1 1 7 1 7 1 1 7 1 1 7 1 7 1 1 7 1 1 7 1 7 1 1 7 1 1 7 1 1 7 1 7 1 1 7 1 1 7 1 7 1 1 7 1
* [[Quintosec]][25]: 4 21 4 21 4 4 21 4 21 4 4 21 4 21 4 4 21 4 21 4 4 21 4 21 4
* Quintosec[55]: 4 4 9 4 4 4 4 4 9 4 4 4 4 9 4 4 4 4 4 9 4 4 4 4 9 4 4 4 4 4 9 4 4 4 4 9 4 4 4 4 4 9 4 4 4 4 9 4 4 4 4 4 9 4 4
* Quintosec[65]: 4 4 4 5 4 4 4 4 4 5 4 4 4 4 4 4 5 4 4 4 4 4 5 4 4 4 4 4 4 5 4 4 4 4 4 5 4 4 4 4 4 4 5 4 4 4 4 4 5 4 4 4 4 4 4 5 4 4 4 4 4 5 4 4 4
* [[Vishnu]][34]: 7 9 7 9 7 9 7 9 7 9 7 9 7 9 7 9 7 7 9 7 9 7 9 7 9 7 9 7 9 7 9 7 9 7
* [[Vishnu]][34]: 7 9 7 9 7 9 7 9 7 9 7 9 7 9 7 9 7 7 9 7 9 7 9 7 9 7 9 7 9 7 9 7 9 7


== Commas of the 2.3.5.7.11.13 subgroup tempered out in 270edo patent val ==
=== Harmonic scales ===
270edo very accurately approximates mode 16 of the [[harmonic series]]. Only four interval pairs are conflated: 23/22~24/23, 26/25~27/26, 28/27~29/28 and 30/29~31/30. The scale in adjacent steps is:
* 24 22 21 20 19 18 17 17 16 15 15 14 14 13 13 12
 
 
It further does decently in the mode 24. The scale in adjacent steps is:
* 16 15 15 14 14 13 13 12 12 12 11 11 11 10 10 10 10 9 9 9 9 9 8 8


Commas with numerator <= 2^20:
=== [[Historical temperaments|Historical temperament]] approximations ===
* [[Kirnberger III]]: 20 23 23 21 25 21 24 21 22 24 21 25
* [[Septenarius]]: 20 24 23 22 23 22 23 21 23 24 22 23
* [[Vallotti]]: 21 23 23 21 25 20 24 22 22 24 20 25
* [[Werckmeister III]]: 20 23 23 22 24 20 25 21 22 24 22 24


{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed sortable"
=== Other scales ===
! [[Ratio]]
* [[Maeve Gutierrez #Gutierrez-Lambeth quasi-subharmonic pentatonic|Gutierrez-Lambeth quasi-subharmonic pentatonic]] (''octave reduced: 37 23 93 65 52'')
! [[Monzo]]
* [[Maeve Gutierrez #Moonglade scale|Gutierrez Moonglade scale]] (24 tones): 3 17 22 3 20 5 17 25 5 14 22 5 3 16 18 4 19 5 5 12 2 6 17 5
! [[Cent]]s
|-
| [[676/675]]
| [2 -3 -2 0 0 2⟩
| 2.563
|-
| [[1001/1000]]
| [-3 0 -3 1 1 1⟩
| 1.730
|-
| [[1716/1715]]
| [2 1 -1 -3 1 1⟩
| 1.009
|-
| [[2080/2079]]
| [5 -3 1 -1 -1 1⟩
| 0.833
|-
| [[2401/2400]]
| [-5 -1 -2 4⟩
| 0.721
|-
| [[3025/3024]]
| [-4 -3 2 -1 2⟩
| 0.572
|-
| [[4096/4095]]
| [12 -2 -1 -1 0 -1⟩
| 0.423
|-
| [[4225/4224]]
| [-7 -1 2 0 -1 2⟩
| 0.410
|-
| [[4375/4374]]
| [-1 -7 4 1⟩
| 0.396
|-
| [[4459/4455]]
| [0 -4 -1 3 -1 1⟩
| 1.554
|-
| [[5632/5625]]
| [9 -2 -4 0 1⟩
| 2.153
|-
| [[6656/6655]]
| [9 0 -1 0 -3 1⟩
| 0.260
|-
| [[9801/9800]]
| [-3 4 -2 -2 2⟩
| 0.177
|-
| [[10648/10647]]
| [3 -2 0 -1 3 -2⟩
| 0.163
|-
| [[10985/10976]]
| [-5 0 1 -3 0 3⟩
| 1.419
|-
| [[14641/14625]]
| [0 -2 -3 0 4 -1⟩
| 1.893
|-
| [[15379/15360]]
| [-10 -1 -1 1 0 3⟩
| 2.140
|-
| [[17303/17280]]
| [-7 -3 -1 0 3 1⟩
| 2.303
|-
| [[19712/19683]]
| [8 -9 0 1 1⟩
| 2.549
|-
| [[20449/20412]]
| [-2 -6 0 -1 2 2⟩
| 3.135
|-
| [[21632/21609]]
| [7 -2 0 -4 0 2⟩
| 1.842
|-
| [[28561/28512]]
| [-5 -4 0 0 -1 4⟩
| 2.973
|-
| [[34398/34375]]
| [1 3 -5 2 -1 1⟩
| 1.158
|-
| [[35035/34992]]
| [-4 -7 1 2 1 1⟩
| 2.126
|-
| [[35750/35721]]
| [1 -6 3 -2 1 1⟩
| 1.405
|-
| [[40656/40625]]
| [4 1 -5 1 2 -1⟩
| 1.321
|-
| [[41503/41472]]
| [-9 -4 0 3 2⟩
| 1.294
|-
| [[42592/42525]]
| [5 -5 -2 -1 3⟩
| 2.725
|-
| [[43904/43875]]
| [7 -3 -3 3 0 -1⟩
| 1.144
|-
| [[43923/43904]]
| [-7 1 0 -3 4⟩
| 0.749
|-
| [[43940/43923]]
| [2 -1 1 0 -4 3⟩
| 0.670
|-
| [[47432/47385]]
| [3 -6 -1 2 2 -1⟩
| 1.716
|-
| [[50193/50176]]
| [-10 3 0 -2 1 2⟩
| 0.586
|-
| [[59150/59049]]
| [1 -10 2 1 0 2⟩
| 2.959
|-
| [[59319/59290]]
| [-1 3 -1 -2 -2 3⟩
| 0.847
|-
| [[61347/61250]]
| [-1 1 -4 -2 2 2⟩
| 2.740
|-
| [[67392/67375]]
| [6 4 -3 -2 -1 1⟩
| 0.437
|-
| [[75712/75625]]
| [6 0 -4 1 -2 2⟩
| 1.990
|-
| [[86515/86436]]
| [-2 -2 1 -4 3 1⟩
| 1.582
|-
| [[102487/102400]]
| [-12 0 -2 1 4⟩
| 1.470
|-
| [[105644/105625]]
| [2 0 -4 4 1 -2⟩
| 0.311
|-
| [[109512/109375]]
| [3 4 -6 -1 0 2⟩
| 2.167
|-
| [[117649/117612]]
| [-2 -5 0 6 -2⟩
| 0.545
|-
| [[123201/123200]]
| [-6 6 -2 -1 -1 2⟩
| 0.014
|-
| [[131072/130977]]
| [17 -5 0 -2 -1⟩
| 1.255
|-
| [[151263/151250]]
| [-1 2 -4 5 -2⟩
| 0.149
|-
| [[154880/154791]]
| [8 -5 1 -2 2 -1⟩
| 0.995
|-
| [[160083/160000]]
| [-8 3 -4 2 2⟩
| 0.898
|-
| [[169169/168750]]
| [-1 -3 -5 1 1 3⟩
| 4.293
|-
| [[172032/171875]]
| [13 1 -6 1 -1⟩
| 1.581
|-
| [[180224/180075]]
| [14 -1 -2 -4 1⟩
| 1.432
|-
| [[196625/196608]]
| [-16 -1 3 0 2 1⟩
| 0.150
|-
| [[199927/199650]]
| [-1 -1 -2 1 -3 4⟩
| 2.400
|-
| [[200704/200475]]
| [12 -6 -2 2 -1⟩
| 1.976
|-
| [[212992/212625]]
| [14 -5 -3 -1 0 1⟩
| 2.986
|-
| [[250047/250000]]
| [-4 6 -6 3⟩
| 0.325
|-
| [[256000/255879]]
| [11 -9 3 0 0 -1⟩
| 0.818
|-
| [[264992/264627]]
| [5 -7 0 2 -2 2⟩
| 2.386
|-
| [[274625/274428]]
| [-2 -4 3 -1 -2 3⟩
| 1.242
|-
| [[281216/280665]]
| [7 -6 -1 -1 -1 3⟩
| 3.395
|-
| [[312741/312500]]
| [-2 7 -7 0 1 1⟩
| 1.335
|-
| [[314171/313600]]
| [-8 0 -2 -2 1 4⟩
| 3.149
|-
| [[322102/321489]]
| [1 -8 0 -2 5⟩
| 3.298
|-
| [[369754/369603]]
| [1 -7 0 5 1 -2⟩
| 0.707
|-
| [[371293/370440]]
| [-3 -3 -1 -3 0 5⟩
| 3.982
|-
| [[386672/385875]]
| [4 -2 -3 -3 1 3⟩
| 3.572
|-
| [[391314/390625]]
| [1 1 -8 2 3⟩
| 3.051
|-
| [[405769/405000]]
| [-3 -4 -4 4 0 2⟩
| 3.284
|-
| [[405769/405504]]
| [-12 -2 0 4 -1 2⟩
| 1.131
|-
| [[420175/419904]]
| [-6 -8 2 5⟩
| 1.117
|-
| [[422576/421875]]
| [4 -3 -6 4 1⟩
| 2.874
|-
| [[456533/455625]]
| [0 -6 -4 3 3⟩
| 3.447
|-
| [[456533/456300]]
| [-2 -3 -2 3 3 -2⟩
| 0.884
|-
| [[456976/455625]]
| [4 -6 -4 0 0 4⟩
| 5.126
|-
| [[456976/456533]]
| [4 0 0 -3 -3 4⟩
| 1.679
|-
| [[468512/468195]]
| [5 -1 -1 -4 4 -1⟩
| 1.172
|-
| [[499408/499125]]
| [4 -1 -3 4 -3 1⟩
| 0.981
|-
| [[512435/511758]]
| [-1 -9 1 1 4 -1⟩
| 2.289
|-
| [[532400/531441]]
| [4 -12 2 0 3⟩
| 3.121
|-
| [[532480/531441]]
| [13 -12 1 0 0 1⟩
| 3.381
|-
| [[557568/557375]]
| [9 2 -3 -3 2 -1⟩
| 0.599
|-
| [[644204/643125]]
| [2 -1 -4 -3 5⟩
| 2.902
|-
| [[650000/649539]]
| [4 -10 5 0 -1 1⟩
| 1.228
|-
| [[655473/655360]]
| [-17 1 -1 5 0 1⟩
| 0.298
|-
| [[704704/703125]]
| [6 -2 -7 1 2 1⟩
| 3.883
|-
| [[714025/713097]]
| [0 -3 2 -4 -1 4⟩
| 2.252
|-
| [[742586/741125]]
| [1 0 -3 -2 -2 5⟩
| 3.409
|-
| [[761332/759375]]
| [2 -5 -5 0 4 1⟩
| 4.456
|-
| [[766656/765625]]
| [6 2 -6 -2 3⟩
| 2.330
|-
| [[768320/767637]]
| [6 -10 1 4 0 -1⟩
| 1.540
|-
| [[771147/770000]]
| [-4 3 -4 -1 -1 4⟩
| 2.577
|-
| [[819819/819200]]
| [-15 2 -2 2 1 2⟩
| 1.308
|-
| [[823680/823543]]
| [7 2 1 -7 1 1⟩
| 0.288
|-
| [[823875/823543]]
| [0 1 3 -7 0 3⟩
| 0.698
|-
| [[861224/859375]]
| [3 0 -7 2 -1 3⟩
| 3.721
|-
| [[942513/941192]]
| [-3 1 0 -6 1 4⟩
| 2.428
|-
| [[966680/964467]]
| [3 -9 1 -2 1 3⟩
| 3.968
|-
| [[968877/968000]]
| [-6 2 -3 2 -2 3⟩
| 1.568
|-
| [[1002001/1000000]]
| [-6 0 -6 2 2 2⟩
| 3.461
|-
| [[1016064/1015625]]
| [8 4 -7 2 0 -1⟩
| 0.748
|-
| [[1038336/1037575]]
| [11 1 -2 -3 -2 2⟩
| 1.269
|}


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