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== Theory == | == Theory == | ||
39edo's [[3/2|perfect fifth]] is 5.8 | 39edo's [[3/2|perfect fifth]] is 5.8 cents sharp, together with its best [[5/4|classical major third]] which is the familiar 400 cents of [[12edo]]. We have two choices for a tuning of [[7/1|7]], but the sharp one blends better with the sharp 3 and 5 as their errors cancel with their ratios, thus yielding significantly higher average accuracy than the [[patent val]] in the [[7-odd-limit|7-]] and [[9-odd-limit]]. It also has a fine [[11/1|11]], and adding it to consideration the best choice for 39et is the sharp-tending 39df val {{val| 39 62 91 '''110''' 135 '''145''' }}. | ||
As a [[superpyth]] system, 39edo is intermediate between [[17edo]] and [[22edo]] {{nowrap|(39 {{=}} 17 + 22)}}; its fifth thus falls in the "shrub region" where the diatonic thirds are between standard neogothic thirds and septimal thirds. The specific 7-limit variant supported by 39d is [[quasisuper]]. While 17edo is superb for melody (as documented by [[George Secor]]), it does not approximate the 5th harmonic at all and only poorly approximates the 7th. 22edo is much better for 5-limit and 7-limit harmony but is less effective for melody assuming that the MOS diatonic is used, because the [[diatonic semitone]] is [[quartertone]]-sized. 39edo offers a compromise, since it still supports good 5- and 7-limit harmonies (though less close than 22edo), while at the same time having a diatonic semitone of 61.5 cents, as the ideal diatonic semitone for melody is somewhere in between 60 and 80 cents, i.e. a third tone, by Secor's estimates. | |||
As a | === Odd harmonics === | ||
{{Harmonics in equal|39|columns=11}} | |||
{{Harmonics in equal|39|columns=11|start=12|collapsed=1|title=Approximation of odd harmonics in 39edo (continued)}} | |||
=== As a tuning of other temperaments === | |||
39edo, with its 400{{c}} major third, [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[128/125|diesis]] (128/125), and using the 39d val, the septimal comma, [[64/63]], as well as [[126/125]] are added to the comma list. In the 11-limit we find that the equal temperament tempers out [[99/98]] and [[121/120]]. Tempering out both 128/125 and 64/63 makes 39et, in some few ways, allied to [[12edo|12et]] in [[support]]ing [[augene]], and is in fact, an excellent choice for a 7-limit augene tuning. It also tempers out the [[amity comma]] (1600000/1594323), and supports the variant of amity known as [[accord]]. | |||
Alternatively, | Alternatively, the patent val tempers out [[49/48]] to yield [[semaphore]], and provides a reasonable tuning of [[triforce]] beyond [[15edo]], and optimizes both its semaphore and augmented components by tuning the fifth sharp. The 39c val supports [[negri]]. | ||
39edo | If we take 22\39 as a fifth, 39edo can be used as a tuning of [[mavila]] through the 39bc val, and from that point of view it seems to have attracted the attention of the [[Armodue]] school, an Italian group that use the scheme of [[7L 2s|superdiatonic]] LLLsLLLLs like a base scale for notation and theory, suited in [[16edo]] and allied systems: [[25edo]] [1/3-tone 3;2]; [[41edo]] [1/5-tone 5;3]; and [[57edo]] [1/7-tone 7;4]. The [[hornbostel]] temperament is included too with: [[23edo]] [1/3-tone 3;1]; 39edo [1/5-tone 5;2] & [[62edo]] [1/8-tone 8;3]. The mavila fifth in 39edo like all mavila fifths is very, very flat, in this case, 25{{c}} flat. | ||
39edo offers not one, but many, possible ways of extending tonality beyond the diatonic scale, even if it does not do as good of a job at approximating [[JI]] as some other systems do. Because it can also approximate mavila as well as "anti-mavila" ([[oneirotonic]]), the latter of which it inherits from [[13edo]], this makes 39edo an extremely versatile temperament usable in a wide range of situations (both harmonic and inharmonic). | |||
=== Subsets and supersets === | === Subsets and supersets === | ||
Since 39 factors into {{nowrap| 3 × 13 }}, 39edo contains [[3edo]] and [[13edo]] as subsets. Multiplying 39edo by 2 yields [[78edo]], which corrects several harmonics. | Since 39 factors into primes as {{nowrap| 3 × 13 }}, 39edo contains [[3edo]] and [[13edo]] as subsets. Multiplying 39edo by 2 yields [[78edo]], which corrects several harmonics. | ||
== Intervals == | == Intervals == | ||
{| class="wikitable center- | As 39edo is a rare case where a non-patent val does significantly better than the patent val, we provide two tables, for those who look for the most accurate temperament available and for those who would like to explore the potential utilities in this edo. | ||
{| class="wikitable center-1 right-2" | |||
|+ Table of intervals, 39df val | |||
|- | |- | ||
! | ! # | ||
! Cents | ! Cents | ||
! Approximate ratios* | ! Approximate ratios* | ||
|- | |||
| 0 | |||
| 0.0 | |||
| [[1/1]] | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 30.8 | |||
| ''[[36/35]]'', [[50/49]], [[55/54]], [[56/55]], [[81/80]] | |||
|- | |||
| 2 | |||
| 61.5 | |||
| ''[[22/21]]'', [[28/27]], [[33/32]], ''[[49/48]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 3 | |||
| 92.3 | |||
| ''[[16/15]]'', [[21/20]], ''[[25/24]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 4 | |||
| 123.1 | |||
| [[14/13]], [[15/14]] | |||
|- | |||
| 5 | |||
| 153.8 | |||
| [[11/10]], [[12/11]], [[13/12]] | |||
|- | |||
| 6 | |||
| 184.6 | |||
| [[10/9]] | |||
|- | |||
| 7 | |||
| 215.4 | |||
| [[9/8]], ''[[8/7]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 8 | |||
| 246.2 | |||
| [[15/13]] | |||
|- | |||
| 9 | |||
| 276.9 | |||
| [[7/6]] | |||
|- | |||
| 10 | |||
| 307.7 | |||
| [[6/5]] | |||
|- | |||
| 11 | |||
| 338.5 | |||
| [[11/9]], ''[[16/13]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 12 | |||
| 369.2 | |||
| [[26/21]], [[27/22]] | |||
|- | |||
| 13 | |||
| 400.0 | |||
| [[5/4]] | |||
|- | |||
| 14 | |||
| 430.8 | |||
| [[9/7]], [[14/11]] | |||
|- | |||
| 15 | |||
| 461.5 | |||
| [[13/10]] | |||
|- | |||
| 16 | |||
| 492.3 | |||
| [[4/3]] | |||
|- | |||
| 17 | |||
| 523.1 | |||
| [[27/20]] | |||
|- | |||
| 18 | |||
| 553.8 | |||
| [[11/8]], [[18/13]], ''[[15/11]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 19 | |||
| 584.6 | |||
| [[7/5]] | |||
|- | |||
| 20 | |||
| 615.4 | |||
| [[10/7]] | |||
|- | |||
| 21 | |||
| 646.2 | |||
| [[13/9]], [[16/11]], ''[[22/15]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 22 | |||
| 676.9 | |||
| [[40/27]] | |||
|- | |||
| 23 | |||
| 707.7 | |||
| [[3/2]] | |||
|- | |||
| 24 | |||
| 738.5 | |||
| [[20/13]] | |||
|- | |||
| 25 | |||
| 769.2 | |||
| [[11/7]], [[14/9]] | |||
|- | |||
| 26 | |||
| 800.0 | |||
| [[8/5]] | |||
|- | |||
| 27 | |||
| 830.8 | |||
| [[21/13]], [[44/27]] | |||
|- | |||
| 28 | |||
| 861.5 | |||
| [[18/11]], ''[[13/8]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 29 | |||
| 892.3 | |||
| [[5/3]] | |||
|- | |||
| 30 | |||
| 923.1 | |||
| [[12/7]] | |||
|- | |||
| 31 | |||
| 953.8 | |||
| [[26/15]] | |||
|- | |||
| 32 | |||
| 984.6 | |||
| [[16/9]], ''[[7/4]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 33 | |||
| 1015.4 | |||
| [[9/5]] | |||
|- | |||
| 34 | |||
| 1046.2 | |||
| [[11/6]], [[20/11]], [[24/13]] | |||
|- | |||
| 35 | |||
| 1076.9 | |||
| [[13/7]], [[28/15]] | |||
|- | |||
| 36 | |||
| 1107.7 | |||
| ''[[15/8]]'', [[40/21]], ''[[48/25]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 37 | |||
| 1138.5 | |||
| ''[[21/11]]'', [[27/14]], [[64/33]], ''[[96/49]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 38 | |||
| 1169.2 | |||
| ''[[35/18]]'', [[49/25]], [[108/55]], [[160/81]] | |||
|- | |||
| 39 | |||
| 1200.0 | |||
| [[2/1]] | |||
|} | |||
<nowiki/>* As a 13-limit temperament | |||
{| class="wikitable center-1 right-2" | |||
|+ Table of intervals, various vals | |||
|- | |||
! rowspan="2" | # | |||
! rowspan="2" | Cents | |||
! rowspan="2" | Ratios of the<br>[[2.3.11 subgroup]] | |||
! colspan="3" | Intervals of 5 and 7 | |||
|- | |||
! 39c val | |||
! 39 val | |||
! 39d val | |||
|- | |||
| 0 | |||
| 0.0 | |||
| [[1/1]] | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 30.8 | |||
| | |||
| ''[[28/27]]'', [[50/49]], [[64/63]] | |||
| ''[[28/27]]'', [[64/63]], [[81/80]] | |||
| ''[[36/35]]'', [[50/49]], [[81/80]] | |||
|- | |||
| 2 | |||
| 61.5 | |||
| [[33/32]], ''[[256/243]]'' | |||
| | |||
| ''[[21/20]]'', [[36/35]] | |||
| ''[[22/21]]'', [[28/27]], ''[[49/48]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 3 | |||
| 92.3 | |||
| | |||
| [[21/20]], [[22/21]], ''[[36/35]]'' | |||
| ''[[16/15]]'', [[22/21]], ''[[25/24]]'' | |||
| ''[[16/15]]'', [[21/20]], ''[[25/24]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 4 | |||
| 123.1 | |||
| | |||
| [[15/14]], [[16/15]] | |||
| | |||
| [[15/14]] | |||
|- | |||
| 5 | |||
| 153.8 | |||
| [[12/11]] | |||
| ''[[10/9]]'' | |||
| [[11/10]], ''[[15/14]]'' | |||
| [[11/10]] | |||
|- | |||
| 6 | |||
| 184.6 | |||
| | |||
| ''[[11/10]]'' | |||
| [[10/9]] | |||
| [[10/9]] | |||
|- | |||
| 7 | |||
| 215.4 | |||
| [[9/8]] | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| ''[[8/7]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 8 | |||
| 246.2 | |||
| | |||
| ''[[7/6]]'', [[8/7]] | |||
| ''[[7/6]]'', [[8/7]] | |||
| [[81/70]] | |||
|- | |||
| 9 | |||
| 276.9 | |||
| ''[[32/27]]'' | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| [[7/6]] | |||
|- | |||
| 10 | |||
| 307.7 | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| [[6/5]] | |||
| [[6/5]] | |||
|- | |||
| 11 | |||
| 338.5 | |||
| [[11/9]] | |||
| ''[[6/5]]'' | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 12 | |||
| 369.2 | |||
| [[27/22]] | |||
| ''[[5/4]]'' | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 13 | |||
| 400.0 | |||
| | |||
| ''[[14/11]]'' | |||
| [[5/4]], ''[[14/11]]'' | |||
| [[5/4]] | |||
|- | |||
| 14 | |||
| 430.8 | |||
| ''[[81/64]]'' | |||
| | |||
| ''[[35/27]]'' | |||
| [[9/7]], [[14/11]] | |||
|- | |||
| 15 | |||
| 461.5 | |||
| | |||
| ''[[9/7]]'', [[21/16]] | |||
| ''[[9/7]]'', [[21/16]] | |||
| [[35/27]] | |||
|- | |||
| 16 | |||
| 492.3 | |||
| [[4/3]] | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 17 | |||
| 523.1 | |||
| | |||
| [[15/11]] | |||
| [[27/20]] | |||
| [[27/20]] | |||
|- | |||
| 18 | |||
| 553.8 | |||
| [[11/8]] | |||
| ''[[27/20]]'' | |||
| ''[[7/5]]'', ''[[15/11]]'' | |||
| ''[[15/11]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 19 | |||
| 584.6 | |||
| | |||
| [[7/5]] | |||
| | |||
| [[7/5]] | |||
|- | |||
| 20 | |||
| 615.4 | |||
| | |||
| [[10/7]] | |||
| | |||
| [[10/7]] | |||
|- | |||
| 21 | |||
| 646.2 | |||
| [[16/11]] | |||
| ''[[40/27]]'' | |||
| ''[[10/7]]'', ''[[22/15]]'' | |||
| ''[[22/15]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 22 | |||
| 676.9 | |||
| | |||
| [[22/15]] | |||
| [[40/27]] | |||
| [[40/27]] | |||
|- | |||
| 23 | |||
| 707.7 | |||
| [[3/2]] | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 24 | |||
| 738.5 | |||
| | |||
| ''[[14/9]]'', [[32/21]] | |||
| ''[[14/9]]'', [[32/21]] | |||
| [[54/35]] | |||
|- | |||
| 25 | |||
| 769.2 | |||
| ''[[128/81]]'' | |||
| | |||
| ''[[54/35]]'' | |||
| [[11/7]], [[14/9]] | |||
|- | |||
| 26 | |||
| 800.0 | |||
| | |||
| ''[[11/7]]'' | |||
| [[8/5]], ''[[11/7]]'' | |||
| [[8/5]] | |||
|- | |||
| 27 | |||
| 830.8 | |||
| [[44/27]] | |||
| ''[[8/5]]'' | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 28 | |||
| 861.5 | |||
| [[18/11]] | |||
| ''[[5/3]]'' | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 29 | |||
| 892.3 | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| [[5/3]] | |||
| [[5/3]] | |||
|- | |||
| 30 | |||
| 923.1 | |||
| ''[[27/16]]'' | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| [[12/7]] | |||
|- | |||
| 31 | |||
| 953.8 | |||
| | |||
| [[7/4]], ''[[12/7]]'' | |||
| [[7/4]], ''[[12/7]]'' | |||
| [[140/81]] | |||
|- | |||
| 32 | |||
| 984.6 | |||
| [[16/9]] | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| ''[[7/4]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 33 | |||
| 1015.4 | |||
| | |||
| ''[[20/11]]'' | |||
| [[9/5]] | |||
| [[9/5]] | |||
|- | |||
| 34 | |||
| 1046.2 | |||
| [[11/6]] | |||
| ''[[9/5]]'' | |||
| [[20/11]], ''[[28/15]]'' | |||
| [[20/11]] | |||
|- | |||
| 35 | |||
| 1076.9 | |||
| | |||
| [[15/8]], [[28/15]] | |||
| | |||
| [[28/15]] | |||
|- | |||
| 36 | |||
| 1107.7 | |||
| | |||
| [[21/11]], ''[[35/18]]'', [[40/21]] | |||
| ''[[15/8]]'', [[21/11]], ''[[48/25]]'' | |||
| ''[[15/8]]'', [[40/21]], ''[[48/25]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 37 | |||
| 1138.5 | |||
| [[64/33]], ''[[243/128]]'' | |||
| | |||
| [[35/18]], ''[[40/21]]'' | |||
| [[27/14]], ''[[96/49]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 38 | |||
| 1169.2 | |||
| | |||
| ''[[27/14]]'', [[49/25]], [[63/32]] | |||
| ''[[27/14]]'', [[63/32]], [[160/81]] | |||
| ''[[35/18]]'', [[49/25]], [[160/81]] | |||
|- | |||
| 39 | |||
| 1200.0 | |||
| [[2/1]] | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|} | |||
=== Proposed interval names and solfèges === | |||
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed center-1 right-2 center-3 center-5" | |||
|+ style="white-space: nowrap;" | Table of proposed interval names and solfèges | |||
|- | |||
! # | |||
! Cents | |||
! colspan="3" | [[Ups and downs notation]] | ! colspan="3" | [[Ups and downs notation]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 0 | | 0 | ||
| 0.0 | | 0.0 | ||
| P1 | | P1 | ||
| perfect unison | | perfect unison | ||
| D | | D | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 30.8 | | 30.8 | ||
| ^1, <br>vm2 | | ^1, <br>vm2 | ||
| up unison, <br>downminor 2nd | | up unison, <br>downminor 2nd | ||
| ^D, <br>vEb | | ^D, <br>vEb | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 2 | | 2 | ||
| 61.5 | | 61.5 | ||
| m2 | | m2 | ||
| minor 2nd | | minor 2nd | ||
| Eb | | Eb | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 3 | | 3 | ||
| 92.3 | | 92.3 | ||
| ^m2 | | ^m2 | ||
| upminor 2nd | | upminor 2nd | ||
| ^Eb | | ^Eb | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 4 | | 4 | ||
| 123.1 | | 123.1 | ||
| ^^m2 | | ^^m2 | ||
| dupminor 2nd | | dupminor 2nd | ||
| ^^Eb | | ^^Eb | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 5 | | 5 | ||
| 153.8 | | 153.8 | ||
| vvM2 | | vvM2 | ||
| dudmajor 2nd | | dudmajor 2nd | ||
| vvE | | vvE | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 6 | | 6 | ||
| 184.6 | | 184.6 | ||
| vM2 | | vM2 | ||
| downmajor 2nd | | downmajor 2nd | ||
| vE | | vE | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 7 | | 7 | ||
| 215.4 | | 215.4 | ||
| M2 | | M2 | ||
| major 2nd | | major 2nd | ||
| E | | E | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 8 | | 8 | ||
| 246.2 | | 246.2 | ||
| ^M2, <br>vm3 | | ^M2, <br>vm3 | ||
| upmajor 2nd, <br>downminor 3rd | | upmajor 2nd, <br>downminor 3rd | ||
| ^E, <br>vF | | ^E, <br>vF | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 9 | | 9 | ||
| 276.9 | | 276.9 | ||
| m3 | | m3 | ||
| minor 3rd | | minor 3rd | ||
| F | | F | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 10 | | 10 | ||
| 307.7 | | 307.7 | ||
| ^m3 | | ^m3 | ||
| upminor 3rd | | upminor 3rd | ||
| ^F | | ^F | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 11 | | 11 | ||
| 338.5 | | 338.5 | ||
| ^^m3 | | ^^m3 | ||
| dupminor 3rd | | dupminor 3rd | ||
| ^^F | | ^^F | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 12 | | 12 | ||
| 369.2 | | 369.2 | ||
| vvM3 | | vvM3 | ||
| dudmajor 3rd | | dudmajor 3rd | ||
| vvF# | | vvF# | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 13 | | 13 | ||
| 400.0 | | 400.0 | ||
| vM3 | | vM3 | ||
| downmajor 3rd | | downmajor 3rd | ||
| vF# | | vF# | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 14 | | 14 | ||
| 430.8 | | 430.8 | ||
| M3 | | M3 | ||
| major 3rd | | major 3rd | ||
| F# | | F# | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 15 | | 15 | ||
| 461.5 | | 461.5 | ||
| v4 | | v4 | ||
| down 4th | | down 4th | ||
| vG | | vG | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 16 | | 16 | ||
| 492.3 | | 492.3 | ||
| P4 | | P4 | ||
| perfect 4th | | perfect 4th | ||
| G | | G | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 17 | | 17 | ||
| 523.1 | | 523.1 | ||
| ^4 | | ^4 | ||
| up 4th | | up 4th | ||
| ^G | | ^G | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 18 | | 18 | ||
| 553.8 | | 553.8 | ||
| ^^4 | | ^^4 | ||
| dup 4th | | dup 4th | ||
| ^^G | | ^^G | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 19 | | 19 | ||
| 584.6 | | 584.6 | ||
| vvA4, <br>^d5 | | vvA4, <br>^d5 | ||
| dudaug 4th, <br>updim 5th | | dudaug 4th, <br>updim 5th | ||
| vvG#, <br>^Ab | | vvG#, <br>^Ab | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 20 | | 20 | ||
| 615.4 | | 615.4 | ||
| vA4, <br>^^d5 | | vA4, <br>^^d5 | ||
| downaug 4th, <br>dupdim 5th | | downaug 4th, <br>dupdim 5th | ||
| vG#, <br>^^Ab | | vG#, <br>^^Ab | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 21 | | 21 | ||
| 646.2 | | 646.2 | ||
| vv5 | | vv5 | ||
| dud 5th | | dud 5th | ||
| vvA | | vvA | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 22 | | 22 | ||
| 676.9 | | 676.9 | ||
| v5 | | v5 | ||
| down 5th | | down 5th | ||
| vA | | vA | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 23 | | 23 | ||
| 707.7 | | 707.7 | ||
| P5 | | P5 | ||
| perfect 5th | | perfect 5th | ||
| A | | A | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 24 | | 24 | ||
| 738.5 | | 738.5 | ||
| ^5 | | ^5 | ||
| up 5th | | up 5th | ||
| A^ | | A^ | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 25 | | 25 | ||
| 769.2 | | 769.2 | ||
| m6 | | m6 | ||
| minor 6th | | minor 6th | ||
| Bb | | Bb | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 26 | | 26 | ||
| 800.0 | | 800.0 | ||
| ^m6 | | ^m6 | ||
| upminor 6th | | upminor 6th | ||
| ^Bb | | ^Bb | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 27 | | 27 | ||
| 830.8 | | 830.8 | ||
| ^^m6 | | ^^m6 | ||
| dupminor 6th | | dupminor 6th | ||
| ^^Bb | | ^^Bb | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 28 | | 28 | ||
| 861.5 | | 861.5 | ||
| vvM6 | | vvM6 | ||
| dudmajor 6th | | dudmajor 6th | ||
| vvB | | vvB | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 29 | | 29 | ||
| 892.3 | | 892.3 | ||
| vM6 | | vM6 | ||
| downmajor 6th | | downmajor 6th | ||
| vB | | vB | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 30 | | 30 | ||
| 923.1 | | 923.1 | ||
| M6 | | M6 | ||
| major 6th | | major 6th | ||
| B | | B | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 31 | | 31 | ||
| 953.8 | | 953.8 | ||
| ^M6, <br>vm7 | | ^M6, <br>vm7 | ||
| upmajor 6th, <br>downminor 7th | | upmajor 6th, <br>downminor 7th | ||
| ^B, <br>vC | | ^B, <br>vC | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 32 | | 32 | ||
| 984.6 | | 984.6 | ||
| m7 | | m7 | ||
| minor 7th | | minor 7th | ||
| C | | C | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 33 | | 33 | ||
| 1015.4 | | 1015.4 | ||
| ^m7 | | ^m7 | ||
| upminor 7th | | upminor 7th | ||
| ^C | | ^C | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 34 | | 34 | ||
| 1046.2 | | 1046.2 | ||
| ^^m7 | | ^^m7 | ||
| dupminor 7th | | dupminor 7th | ||
| ^^C | | ^^C | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 35 | | 35 | ||
| 1076.9 | | 1076.9 | ||
| vvM7 | | vvM7 | ||
| dudmajor 7th | | dudmajor 7th | ||
| vvC# | | vvC# | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 36 | | 36 | ||
| 1107.7 | | 1107.7 | ||
| vM7 | | vM7 | ||
| downmajor 7th | | downmajor 7th | ||
| vC# | | vC# | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 37 | | 37 | ||
| 1138.5 | | 1138.5 | ||
| M7 | | M7 | ||
| major 7th | | major 7th | ||
| C# | | C# | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 38 | | 38 | ||
| 1169.2 | | 1169.2 | ||
| ^M7, <br>v8 | | ^M7, <br>v8 | ||
| upmajor 7th, <br>down 8ve | | upmajor 7th, <br>down 8ve | ||
| ^C#, <br>vD | | ^C#, <br>vD | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 39 | | 39 | ||
| 1200.0 | | 1200.0 | ||
| P8 | | P8 | ||
| perfect 8ve | | perfect 8ve | ||
| D | | D | ||
|} | |} | ||
Chords can be named using ups and downs as C upminor, D downmajor seven, etc. See [[ | Chords can be named using ups and downs as C upminor, D downmajor seven, etc. See [[Kite's ups and downs notation #Chords and chord progressions]]. | ||
== Notation == | == Notation == | ||
=== | === Stein–Zimmermann–Gould notation === | ||
39edo can be notated with [[ups and downs]], spoken as up, dup, dudsharp, downsharp, sharp, upsharp etc. and down, dud, dupflat etc. Note that dudsharp is equivalent to trup (triple-up) and dupflat is equivalent to trud (triple-down). | [[Stein–Zimmermann–Gould notation]] uses sharps and flats with arrows: | ||
{{Sharpness-sharp5-szg}} | |||
=== Kite's ups and downs notation === | |||
39edo can also be notated with [[Kite's ups and downs notation|Kite's ups and downs]], spoken as up, dup, dudsharp, downsharp, sharp, upsharp etc. and down, dud, dupflat etc. Note that dudsharp is equivalent to trup (triple-up) and dupflat is equivalent to trud (triple-down). | |||
{{Ups and downs sharpness}} | {{Ups and downs sharpness}} | ||
=== Sagittal notation === | === Sagittal notation === | ||
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| 2/1 | | 2/1 | ||
|} | |} | ||
== Approximation to JI == | |||
=== Interval mappings === | |||
{{Q-odd-limit intervals}} | |||
{{Q-odd-limit intervals|39.1|apx=val|header=none|tag=none|title=15-odd-limit intervals by 39df val mapping}} | |||
== Regular temperament properties == | == Regular temperament properties == | ||
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| [[13L 13s]] | | [[13L 13s]] | ||
|} | |} | ||
<nowiki/>* [[Normal | <nowiki/>* [[Normal forms #Equave-reduced-generator form|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[normal forms #Minimal-generator form|minimal form]] in parentheses if distinct | ||
== Octave stretch or compression == | == Octave stretch or compression == | ||
39edo is a [[zeta valley edo]] and is generally poor at approximating primes for its size. Its poor approximations of harmonics 3, 5, 7, and 13 can all be improved by slightly [[octave shrinking|compressing the octave]], to get a tuning like [[ed6|101ed6]] or [[ | 39edo is a [[zeta valley edo]] and is generally poor at approximating primes for its size. Its poor approximations of harmonics 3, 5, 7, and 13 can all be improved by slightly [[octave shrinking|compressing the octave]], to get a tuning like [[ed6|101ed6]] or [[173zpi]]. | ||
39edo can be usefully mapped onto the val 39dfgijk. The [[Tenney-Euclidean]] tuning of this regular temperament is 30.67475 cents per step, which is closely approximated by [[62edt]] and 173zpi. | |||
== 39edo and world music == | == 39edo and world music == | ||
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Many Asian{{clarify|which ones specifically}} and [[African music|African]] {{clarify|which ones specifically}} musical styles can thus be accommodated. | Many Asian{{clarify|which ones specifically}} and [[African music|African]] {{clarify|which ones specifically}} musical styles can thus be accommodated. | ||
== Scales == | |||
* [[Quasisuper]][7] [[MOS scale]]: 7 7 2 7 7 7 2 | |||
* Quasisuper[7] [[5-limit|pental]] [[modmos]]: 7 6 3 7 6 7 3 | |||
* [[3L 6s]] modmos: 7 3 3 3 7 3 3 7 3 | |||
* Extended quasisuper: 4 3 6 3 4 3 6 4 3 3 | |||
* Quasisuper[22] MOS scale (resembles [[Indian]] [[sruti]]): 2 2 1 2 2 2 1 2 2 2 1 2 2 2 2 1 2 2 2 1 2 2 | |||
* Slendro approximations: 9 7 7 9 7 or 8 8 8 8 7 or 8 8 7 8 8 | |||
* An expressive [[oneirotonic]] subset: 9 6 9 9 6 | |||
* ''The scales listed in: [[User:BudjarnLambeth/Quasipelog theory]]'' | |||
== Instruments == | == Instruments == | ||
=== Lumatone mapping === | === Lumatone mapping === | ||
See [[Lumatone mapping for 39edo]] | See [[Lumatone mapping for 39edo]] | ||
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== Music == | == Music == | ||
=== Modern renderings === | |||
; {{W|HOYO-MiX}} | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4y11CWLIHNA "Sinner's Finale" from ''Genshin Impact OST''] (2023) – covered by [[Bryan Deister]] (2025) | |||
=== 21st century === | |||
; [[Bryan Deister]] | ; [[Bryan Deister]] | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oeFI957W-xg ''39edo''] (2023) | * [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oeFI957W-xg ''39edo''] (2023) | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLRaG_pBN7k ''39edo jam''] (2025) | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLRaG_pBN7k ''39edo jam''] (2025) | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1T_xrZpUslQ ''39edo improv''] (2025) | * [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1T_xrZpUslQ ''39edo improv''] (2025) | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYQyRY7xFJs ''Waltz in 39edo''] (2025) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzife15uUU4 ''Tilt Your Head Down''] (2026) | |||
; [[groundfault]] | |||
* From ''Souvenirs of the Affliction'' (2025) – [https://groundfco.bandcamp.com/album/souvenirs-of-the-affliction Bandcamp] | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrjuGmmodn0 YouTube] | |||
** "Resolute Prelude" | |||
** "Residual Soliloquy" | |||
; [[Randy Wells]] | ; [[Randy Wells]] | ||
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[[Category:Listen]] | [[Category:Listen]] | ||
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