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8 edo is a weird and special case so I implemented it a bit differently here but made it as similar as possible. All other pages will be way more normal and Standardised than this.
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== Octave stretch and compression ==
8edo's approximation of [[JI]] can be improved via [[octave shrinking]]. Compressing 8edo's octave from 1200 [[cent]]s down to 1187 cents gives the tuning called [[ed12|29ed12]].
Of all prime [[harmonic]]s up to 31, pure-octave 8edo only manages to approximate 2/1 and 19/1 within 15 [[cents]], completely missing all the others.
By contrast, 29ed12 approximates 2/1, 11/1, 13/1, 17/1 and 31/1 all within 15 cents.
Of all integer harmonics up to 30, pure-octave 8edo approximates the following within 20 cents:
* 2, 4, 8, 16, 19, 27.
Of all integer harmonics up to 30, 29ed12 approximates the following within 20 cents:
* 2, 6, 11, 12, 13, 17, 20, 22, 25, 26.
This provides 29ed12 with a comparatively larger, more diverse palette of [[consonance]]s than pure-octaves 8edo.
The nearest [[zeta peak index]] tunings to 8edo don't have an interval within 20 cents of [[2/1]], making them unrecognisable as stretched or compressed 8edo but instead more like entirely new scales in their own right.
; 8edo
* Step size: 150.000{{c}}, octave size: 1200.000{{c}}
{{Harmonics in equal|8|2|1|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 8edo}}
{{Harmonics in equal|8|2|1|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 8edo (continued)}}
; [[ed12|29ed12]]
* Step size: 148.343{{c}}, octave size: 1186.746{{c}}
{{Harmonics in equal|29|12|1|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 29ed12}}
{{Harmonics in equal|29|12|1|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 29ed12 (continued)}}


== Scales ==
== Scales ==
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=== Temperaments ===
=== Temperaments ===
8edo is fairly composite, so the only step that generates a [[mos]] scale that covers every interval other than the 1 is the 3, producing scales of 332 and [[3L 2s|21212]]. In terms of temperaments, in the 5-limit this is best interpreted as [[father]], as 8edo is the highest edo that tempers out the diatonic semitone in it's [[patent val]], merging 5/4 and 4/3 into a single interval, which is also the generator. This means major and minor chords are rotations of each other, making them inaccurate but very simple, with even the 5 note mos having 3 of both and providing a functional skeleton of 5-limit harmony, albeit with some very strange enharmonic equivalences. In terms of 7-limit extensions things get even more inaccurate, as the patent val supports [[mother]], but the ideal tuning for that is much closer to [[5edo]]. The 8d val supports septimal father and [[pater]], and is much closer to the ideal tuning for both, as the extremely sharp 7 works better with the {{nowrap| 3 & 5 }}. In terms of multi-period temperaments, it makes for a near perfect [[walid]] or a much less accurate [[diminished (temperament)|diminished]] scale.
8edo is fairly composite, so the only step that generates a [[mos]] scale that covers every interval other than the 1 is the 3, producing scales of 332 and [[3L 2s|21212]]. In terms of temperaments, in the 5-limit this is best interpreted as [[father]], as 8edo is the highest edo that tempers out the diatonic semitone in it's [[patent val]], merging 5/4 and 4/3 into a single interval, which is also the generator. This means major and minor chords are rotations of each other, making them inaccurate but very simple, with even the 5 note mos having 3 of both and providing a functional skeleton of 5-limit harmony, albeit with some very strange enharmonic equivalences. In terms of 7-limit extensions things get even more inaccurate, as the patent val supports [[mother]], but the ideal tuning for that is much closer to [[5edo]]. The 8d val supports septimal father and [[pater]], and is much closer to the ideal tuning for both, as the extremely sharp 7 works better with the {{nowrap| 3 & 5 }}. In terms of multi-period temperaments, it makes for a near perfect [[walid]] or a much less accurate [[diminished (temperament)|diminished]] scale.
=== Octave stretch and compression ===
8edo's approximation of [[JI]] can be improved via [[octave shrinking]]. Compressing 8edo's octave from 1200 [[cent]]s down to 1187 cents gives the tuning called [[29ed12]].
Of all prime [[harmonic]]s up to 31, pure-octave 8edo only manages to approximate 2/1 and 19/1 within 15 [[cents]], completely missing all the others.
By contrast, 29ed12 approximates 2/1, 11/1, 13/1, 17/1 and 31/1 all within 15 cents.
Of all integer harmonics up to 30, pure-octave 8edo approximates the following within 20 cents:
* 2, 4, 8, 16, 19, 27.
Of all integer harmonics up to 30, 29ed12 approximates the following within 20 cents:
* 2, 6, 11, 12, 13, 17, 20, 22, 25, 26.
This provides 29ed12 with a comparatively larger, more diverse palette of [[consonance]]s than pure-octaves 8edo.
The nearest [[zeta peak index]] tunings to 8edo don't have an interval within 20 cents of [[2/1]], making them unrecognisable as stretched or compressed 8edo but instead more like entirely new scales in their own right.
; 8edo
* Step size: 150.000{{c}}, octave size: 1200.000{{c}}
{{Harmonics in equal|12|2|1|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 8edo}}
{{Harmonics in equal|8|2|1|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 8edo (continued)}}
; [[29ed12]]
* Step size: 148.343{{c}}, octave size: 1186.746{{c}}
{{Harmonics in equal|29|12|1|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 29ed12}}
{{Harmonics in equal|29|12|1|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 29ed12 (continued)}}


== Instruments ==
== Instruments ==