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== Amity Lumatone mappings ==
=== 99edo (proposed and untested) ===
Since [[99edo]] falls on the [[Amity]] temperament line, it is tempting to use the generator 7\99 functioning as a near-just ~[[21/20]] as in the [[Amity_family#Amicable|Amicable]] extension, but with the octave split into three equal parts, giving a [[12L 3s]] scale with 7:5 step ratio. The range is a bit over two octaves, slanting up mildly, with no missed notes and a few repeated notes to assist with vertical wraparounds. Relative to the mappings for [[Würschmidt]] and its extensions, the Amicable mapping has the advantage that the layout is less lopsided, but the disadvantage that stacking generators does not hit good ratios at low numbers of generators.
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=99|start=93|xstep=7|ystep=-2}}
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== Compressed Neutral Thirds Lumatone mappings ==
== Compressed Neutral Thirds Lumatone mappings ==
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== Machine Lumatone mappings ==
=== 28edo (demonstrated to work) ===
[[Bryan Deister]] has used a layout for [[28edo]] that was inspired by the layout for [[29edo]] (rather than being made for any specific temperament), as demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/--BIQKJ9uvI ''minuet in 28edo''] (2025). The right-moving generator is a somewhat sharp Pythagorean whole tone (~[[9/8]], or near-just [[17/15]], 5\28). The up-moving generator is an almost-just tridecimal supraminor second (~[[14/13]], 3\28).  The range is a bit over five octaves, with octaves alternating near/far and middle with an overall small upwards slant. Although this layout was not designed for any particular temperament, it so happens that the right-moving generator matches [[Machine]].
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=28|start=4|xstep=5|ystep=-3}}
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== Lesser Tendoneutralic Lumatone mappings ==
=== 67edo (demonstrated to workl) ===
[[Bryan Deister]] has demonstrated a [[7L&nbsp;3s]] (7:6 step ratio) layout for [[67edo]] that uses the tempering out of the [[Lesser tendoneutralisma]] (70368744177664/69894255367443, more conveniently described as {{nowrap|{{!}}46 -1 0 0 0 -12⟩}}), in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uwxey9_jINA ''microtonal improvisation in 67edo''] (2025). The underlying generator of the temperament is two steps right and one step down-right on the keyboard, which is 20\67, which is a near-just ~[[16/13]] (octave-reduced 13th subharmonic).  Twelve of these are tempered together to make ~[[12/1]], which is then octave-reduced to the twelfth ~[[3/1]], and thence to the fifth ~[[3/2]]. The range is a bit under 3⅓ octaves, and the octaves are almost level, having a barely perceptible downward slant. Although very efficient, this mapping takes a very xenharmonic approach 67edo &mdash; the notes of a complete [[meantone]] diatonic scale are not situated for easy access (being widely spaced vertically and always requiring a vertical wraparound to play the complete diatonic scale).
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=67|start=50|xstep=7|ystep=-1}}
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== Pseudo-Meantone Lumatone mappings ==
=== 63edo (demonstrated to work) ===
[[Bryan Deister]] has demonstrated a [[6L&nbsp;1s]] (10:3 step ratio) mapping for [[63edo]] in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IYLzF4ogl_w ''microtonal improvisation in 63edo''] (2025). The generator 10\93 is the quasi-meantone ~[[19/17]], which is composed of highly inaccurate harmonics whose errors nearly cancel out, rendering it just slightly flat; two of them make a somewhat flat classic major third ~[[5/4]]. (In contrast to actual [[meantone]] temperament, 63edo represents ~19/17, ~[[10/9]], and ~[[9/8]] as distinct intervals &mdash; the syntonic comma [[81/80]] is not tempered out, and instead the aureusma [[1445/1444]] equates two quasi-meantones to a classic major third.) Although 10\63 can reach all of the notes of 63edo without the need for a second generator, a second generator 7\63 (upward, as a tridecimal supraminor/neutral second that functions as both ~[[13/12]] and ~[[14/13]]) is convenient for quick access to additional common intervals &mdash; for instance, three rightward generators plus one upward generator reach the just slightly sharp fifth ~[[3/2]]; while five rightward generators minus one upwards generator reach a mildly sharp minor sixth ~[[8/5]]. The range is somewhat over four octaves (which slant up mildly) with no missed notes and no repeated notes.
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=63|start=6|xstep=10|ystep=-7}}
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== Semaphore/Semiquartal Lumatone mappings ==
== Semaphore/Semiquartal Lumatone mappings ==
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== Slendric ==
=== 36edo (demonstrated to work) ===
[[Slendric]] mappings for [[36edo]] use the very accurate (just slightly sharp) septimal whole tone ~[[8/7]] as the generator, and three of these make the very accurate (just slightly flat) fifth ~[[3/2]] (the gamelisma [[1029/1024]] being tempered out). This achieves a range a bit over six octaves with no missing notes and some repeated notes to mitigate vertical wraparounds. A [[5L&nbsp;1s]] (7:1 step ratio) version of the Slendric mapping uses a large chroma (thus making a very hard version of this scale), and achieves octaves that only slope up moderately while still having the notes of the standard diatonic scale still easily accessible, although rotated from their customary orientation. Offset strings of [[6edo]] are now compact upwards key sequences, which may be useful for playing divided-octave temperaments, although more likely to pass through a vertical wrapround than in a reverse-chroma mapping. [[Bryan Deister]] has demonstrated this mapping in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psvrsa10-Wo ''36edo jam''] (2025)].
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=36|start=9|xstep=7|ystep=-6}}
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== Würschmidt Lumatone mappings ==
== Würschmidt Lumatone mappings ==


=== 65edo (demonstrated to work but awaiting approval) ===
=== 65edo (demonstrated to work) ===


[[Bryan Deister]] has used the [[9L&nbsp;2s]] (7:1 step ratio) mapping for [[65edo]] in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W5PXWFduPco ''microtonal improvisation in 65edo''] (2025). The rightward generator 9\65 is a slightly flat acute minor second ~[[27/25]], and three of these make a near-just classic major third ~[[5/4]]; in turn eight classic major thirds (21\65) make a near-just 6th harmonic ~[[6/1]], qualifying this for [[Würschmidt]] temperament, or an extension thereof that divides the Würschmidt generator into three equal parts, but using ~27/25 instead of the tridecimal supraminor second ~[[14/13]], which technically maps to the same interval in 65edo, but is composed of a very flat 7th harmonic and a very sharp 13th harmonic and is thus subject to wart adjustment to another interval for consistency improvement. The range is somewhat under three octaves, and the octaves slant up mildly, with some repeated notes to ease vertical wraparounds.
[[Bryan Deister]] has used the [[9L&nbsp;2s]] (7:1 step ratio) mapping for [[65edo]] in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W5PXWFduPco ''microtonal improvisation in 65edo''] (2025). The rightward generator 7\65 is a slightly flat acute minor second ~[[27/25]], and three of these make a near-just classic major third ~[[5/4]]; in turn eight classic major thirds (21\65) make a near-just 6th harmonic ~[[6/1]], qualifying this for [[Würschmidt]] temperament, or an extension thereof that divides the Würschmidt generator into three equal parts, but using ~27/25 instead of the tridecimal supraminor second ~[[14/13]], which technically maps to the same interval in 65edo, but is composed of a very flat 7th harmonic and a very sharp 13th harmonic and is thus subject to wart adjustment to another interval for consistency improvement. The range is somewhat under three octaves, and the octaves slant up mildly, with some repeated notes to ease vertical wraparounds.


{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=65|start=10|xstep=7|ystep=-6}}
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=65|start=10|xstep=7|ystep=-6}}


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=== 99edo (demonstrated to work but awaiting approval) ===
=== 99edo (2 mappings demonstrated to work) ===


The Würschmidt generator, which is the classic major third ~[[5/4]] (near-just), is 32\99 in [[99edo]], so it is divisible by 2 or 4 but not by 3 (seen with [[65edo]]. Division by 2 to get 16\99 yields [[Hemimean_clan#Hemiwürschmidt|Hemiwürschmidt/Würschmidt/Hemiwur]] with a slightly flat septimal) middle whole ton ~[[28/25]] for the divided generator, with a scale [[6L&nbsp;1s]] (16:3 step ratio). Division by 2 again (for 4 overall) yields a further extension that uses this mapping's rightward generator 8\99 as a slightly sharp ptolemaic chromatic semitone (major limma) ~[[135/128]]. This mapping only splits the [[Würschmidt]] in half to get greater range (over four octaves) than when splitting it in quarters, but at the cost of missing many notes in each octave. Despite the missing notes, [[Bryan Deister]] has demonstrated this mapping in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/p9OUaFuTUek ''99edo waltz''] (2025).
The Würschmidt generator, which is the classic major third ~[[5/4]] (near-just), is 32\99 in [[99edo]], so it is divisible by 2 or 4 but not by 3 (seen with [[65edo]]. Division by 2 to get 16\99 yields [[Hemimean_clan#Hemiwürschmidt|Hemiwürschmidt/Würschmidt/Hemiwur]] with a slightly flat septimal) middle whole tone ~[[28/25]] for the divided generator, with a scale [[6L&nbsp;1s]] (16:3 step ratio). This mapping only splits the [[Würschmidt]] in half to get greater range (over four octaves) than when splitting it in quarters, but at the cost of missing many notes in each octave. Despite the missing notes, [[Bryan Deister]] has demonstrated this mapping in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/p9OUaFuTUek ''99edo waltz''] (2025).


{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=99|start=40|xstep=16|ystep=-3}}
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=99|start=40|xstep=16|ystep=-13}}
 
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=== 99edo (proposed and untested) ===


The Würschmidt generator, which is the classic major third ~[[5/4]] (near-just), is 32\99, so it is divisible by 2 or 4 but not by 3. Division by 2 to get 16\99 yields [[Hemimean_clan#Hemiwürschmidt|Hemiwürschmidt/Würschmidt/Hemiwur]] with a slightly flat septimal) middle whole ton ~[[28/25]] for the divided generator, but tries to get too much range for 99edo, and thereby misses notes. Division by 2 again (for 4 overall) yields a further extension that uses this mapping's rightward generator 8\99 as a slightly sharp ptolemaic chromatic semitone (major limma) ~[[135/128]], with a scale [[12L&nbsp;3s]] (8:1 step ratio). As befits Würschmidt, eight classic major thirds (32\65) make a near-just 6th harmonic ~[[6/1]]. The range is just over two octaves, and the octaves slant up mildly, with some repeated notes to ease vertical wraparound.
Division of the generator by 2 again (for 4 overall) yields a further extension that uses this mapping's rightward generator 8\99 as a slightly sharp ptolemaic chromatic semitone (major limma) ~[[135/128]], with a scale [[12L&nbsp;3s]] (8:1 step ratio), implying that the octave is also divided into three equal parts. As befits Würschmidt, eight classic major thirds (32\65) make a near-just 6th harmonic ~[[6/1]]. The range is just over two octaves, and the octaves slant up mildly, now with no missing notes and some repeated notes to ease vertical wraparound. Compared to the [[Amity]] ([[Amity family#Amicable|Amicable]]) mapping with split period, this mapping is more lopsided with the hard scale step ratio, but on the other hand gets some consonant ratios with only a few generator steps. [[Bryan Deister]] has experimented with this mapping, but no demonstration video is available yet (as of 2025-07-24).


{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=99|start=12|xstep=8|ystep=-7}}<br>
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=99|start=12|xstep=8|ystep=-7}}<br>


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== Various Kit-Bashed Lumatone mappings ==
== Various Kit-Bashed Lumatone mappings ==
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These Lumatone mappings were not created for a particular temperament, but as experiments in modifying the Lumatone mapping of one EDO to work for a nearby size without regard to whether they have any temperaments in common.
These Lumatone mappings were not created for a particular temperament, but as experiments in modifying the Lumatone mapping of one EDO to work for a nearby size without regard to whether they have any temperaments in common.


=== 28edo (demonstrated to work) ===
Moved 28edo up to new Machine Lumatone mappings section on this page; moved 30edo to Rank-3 Lumatone mappings page:  [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 19:35, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
 
[[Bryan Deister]] has used a layout for [[28edo]] that was inspired by the layout for [[29edo]] (rather than being made for any specific temperament), as demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/--BIQKJ9uvI ''minuet in 28edo''] (2025). The right-moving generator is a somewhat sharp Pythagorean whole tone (~[[9/8]], or near-just [[17/15]], 5\28). The up-moving generator is an almost-just tridecimal supraminor second (~[[14/13]], 3\28).  The range is a bit over five octaves, with octaves alternating near/far and middle with an overall small upwards slant. Although this layout was not designed for any particular temperament, it so happens that the right-moving generator matches [[Machine]].
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=28|start=4|xstep=5|ystep=-3}}
 
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=== 30edo (demonstrated to work) ===
 
[[Bryan Deister]] has used a layout for [[30edo]] that was also inspired by the layout for [[29edo]] (rather than being made for any specific temperament), as demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP3HGr3ZD70&lc=UgxFBmbxZa5dF4ZPj0F4AaABAg.AFzcn1LkVZNAG4JYIvXZvZ ''minuet in 30edo''] (2025). The right-moving generator is a somewhat flat Pythagorean whole tone (~[[9/8]], 5\30; and in the video, the row segments that include note 0 are colored solid red).  The up-moving generator is a somewhat flat tridecimal supraminor second (~[[14/13]], 3\30); neither would be able access the full gamut on its own, but together they cover the full gamut with a generous allotment of repeated notes (indicating that if this layout was to represent a particular temperament, that would have to be a rank-3 temperament if having an octave period, or a rank-2 temperament dividing the octave into multiple periods). The range is a bit under five octaves, with octaves slanting up (while wrapping around) at the same angle as the right-moving generator.
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=30|start=4|xstep=5|ystep=-3}}
 
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== Various Unnamed Temperament Lumatone mappings ==
== Various Unnamed Temperament Lumatone mappings ==
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=== 91edo pseudo-isomorphic (demonstrated to work) ===
=== 91edo pseudo-isomorphic (demonstrated to work) ===