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== Theory ==
== Theory ==
Since {{nowrap|60 {{=}} 5 × 12}}, 60edo belongs to the family of edos which contain [[12edo]], and like the other small edos of this kind, it [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[Pythagorean comma]], 531441/524288 = {{monzo| -19 12 }}. In the [[5-limit]], it tempers out both the [[magic comma]], 3125/3072, and the [[amity comma]], 1600000/1594323, and supplies the [[optimal patent val]] for 5-limit [[magic]], tempering out 3125/3072. In the [[7-limit]] it tempers out [[225/224]], [[245/243]], [[875/864]], and [[10976/10935]], and [[support]]s [[magic]], [[compton]] and [[tritonic]] temperaments. In the [[11-limit]], the 60e [[val]] {{val| 60 95 139 168 '''207''' }} scores lower in [[badness]] than the [[patent val]] {{val| 60 95 139 168 '''208''' }} and makes for an excellent tritonic tuning. It tempers out [[121/120]] and [[441/440]], whereas the patent val tempers out [[100/99]], [[385/384]] and [[540/539]]. The tuning of 13 is superb at half a cent flat, and the 60e val also works excellently for [[13-limit]] tritonic. As a no-fives [[subgroup temperament]], it is also excellent for the 2.3.7.11.13-subgroup [[bleu]] temperament. (''See [[regular temperament]] for more about what all this means and how to use it.'')
Since {{nowrap| 60 {{=}} 5 × 12 }}, 60edo belongs to the family of edos which contain [[12edo]], and like the other small edos of this kind, it [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[Pythagorean comma]], 531441/524288 ({{monzo| -19 12 }}). In the [[5-limit]], it tempers out both the [[magic comma]], 3125/3072, and the [[amity comma]], 1600000/1594323, and supplies the [[optimal patent val]] for 5-limit [[magic]], tempering out 3125/3072. In the [[7-limit]] it tempers out [[225/224]], [[245/243]], [[875/864]], and [[10976/10935]], and [[support]]s [[magic]], [[compton]] and [[tritonic]] temperaments. In the [[11-limit]], the 60e [[val]] {{val| 60 95 139 168 '''207''' }} scores lower in [[badness]] than the [[patent val]] {{val| 60 95 139 168 '''208''' }} and makes for an excellent tritonic tuning. It tempers out [[121/120]] and [[441/440]], whereas the patent val tempers out [[100/99]], [[385/384]] and [[540/539]]. The tuning of 13 is superb at half a cent flat, and the 60e val also works excellently for [[13-limit]] tritonic. As a no-fives [[subgroup temperament]], it is also excellent for the 2.3.7.11.13-subgroup [[bleu]] temperament.


=== Odd harmonics ===
=== Odd harmonics ===
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== Approximation to JI ==
=== Zeta peak index ===
{{ZPI
| zpi = 301
| steps = 59.9201656607655
| step size = 20.0266469020418
| tempered height = 7.046396
| pure height = 3.547352
| integral = 1.131000
| gap = 15.932359
| octave = 1201.59881412251
| consistent = 10
| distinct = 10
}}


== Regular temperament properties ==
== Regular temperament properties ==
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=== Rank-2 temperaments ===
=== Rank-2 temperaments ===
''See [[regular temperament]] for more about what all this means and how to use it.''
{| class="wikitable center-all left-5"
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== Scales ==
== Octave stretch or compression ==
* [[5- to 10-tone scales in 60edo]]
What follows is a comparison of compressed- and stretched-octave 60edo tunings.
* Amulet{{idiosyncratic}} (approximated from [[25edo]], subset of [[magic]]): 5 2 5 5 2 5 7 5 5 2 5 7 5
* Approximations of [[gamelan]] scales:
** 5-tone pelog: 6 8 20 5 21
** 7-tone pelog: 6 8 12 8 5 14 7
** 5-tone slendro: 12 12 12 12 12


== Nearby equal-step tunings ==
60edo can benefit from slightly [[stretched and compressed tuning|stretching the octave]], especially when using it as a no-11 17-limit equal temperament. With the right amount of stretch we can find better harmonics 3, 5, and 7 at the expense of somewhat less accurate approximations of 2 and 13. Tunings such as [[95edt]] or [[155ed6]] are great demonstrations of this.
There are a few other useful [[equal-step tuning]]s which occur close to 60edo in step size:


; 207ed11, 168ed7
; [[zpi|303zpi]]
* Step size: 19.913{{c}}, octave size: 1194.78{{c}}
Compressing the octave of 60edo by around 5{{c}} results in improved primes 5, 7 and 13, but worse primes 2, 3 and 11. This approximates all harmonics up to 16 within 8.75{{c}}. The tuning 303zpi does this. So does [[equal tuning|223ed13]] whose octave is identical within 0.03{{c}}.
{{Harmonics in cet|19.913|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 303zpi}}
{{Harmonics in cet|19.913|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 303zpi (continued)}}


The tunings [[207ed11]] and [[168ed7]] are almost identical. Each is [[60edo]] but with slightly ''[[Octave stretch|stretched]]'' octaves.
; [[ed7|169ed7]]  
* Step size: 19.958{{c}}, octave size: 1197.50{{c}}
Compressing the octave of 60edo by around 2.5{{c}} results in improved primes 7 and 11, but worse primes 2, 3, 5 and 13. This approximates all harmonics up to 16 within 9.94{{c}}. The tuning 169ed7 does this.
{{Harmonics in equal|169|7|1|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 169ed7}}
{{Harmonics in equal|169|7|1|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 169ed7 (continued)}}


Each causes relatively large improvement to [[5/1]], [[7/1]] and [[11/1]] at the cost of moderate worsening of [[2/1]] and [[3/1]].
; [[zpi|302zpi]]  
* Step size: 19.962{{c}}, octave size: 1197.72{{c}}
Compressing the octave of 60edo by around 2{{c}} results in improved primes 7 and 11, but worse primes 2, 3, 5 and 13. This approximates all harmonics up to 16 within 9.84{{c}}. The tuning 202zpi does this. So does the tuning [[equal tuning|208ed11]] whose octave is identical within 0.3{{c}}.
{{Harmonics in cet|19.962|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 302zpi}}
{{Harmonics in cet|19.962|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 302zpi (continued)}}


Each also causes the [[val]]s to flip for [[11/1]] and [[13/1]].
302zpi is particularly well suited to [[catnip]] temperament specifically: in 60edo, catnip's mappings of 5 and 13 both differ from the [[patent val]]s, but in 19.95cet, only it's mapping of 7 differs. The tuning 169ed7 also does this, but 302zpi approximates most simple harmonics better than 169ed7.
{{Harmonics in equal|207|11|1|intervals=prime|columns=11|collapsed=1}}
{{Harmonics in equal|168|7|1|intervals=prime|columns=11|collapsed=1}}
 
; 139ed5
 
The tuning [[139ed5]] is [[60edo]] but with slightly ''[[Octave stretch|stretched]]'' octaves.
 
It causes relatively large improvement to [[5/1]], [[7/1]] and [[11/1]] at the cost of relatively small worsening of [[2/1]] and relatively large worsening of [[13/1]].
 
It also causes the [[val]] for [[11/1]] to flip from 208 steps to 207 steps.
{{Harmonics in equal|139|5|1|intervals=prime|columns=11|collapsed=1}}
 
; 301zpi
 
The tuning [[301zpi]], the 301st [[zeta peak index]], is [[60edo]] but with slightly ''[[Octave stretch|stretched]]'' octaves.  
 
It causes relatively large improvement to [[3/1]], [[5/1]], [[7/1]], [[11/1]] and [[17/1]] at the cost of relatively small worsening of [[2/1]] and relatively large worsening of [[13/1]].  
 
It also causes the [[val]] for [[11/1]] to flip from 208 steps to 207 steps.
 
301zpi is both [[consistent]] and [[distinctly consistent]] up to the 10-[[integer-limit]], which is unusually high for a two digit edo or three digit zpi.
{{Harmonics in equal|1|38083|37645|intervals=prime|columns=11|title= Approximation of prime harmonics in 301zpi|collapsed=1}}


; 60edo
; 60edo
{{Harmonics in equal|60|2|1|intervals=prime|columns=11|collapsed=1}}
* Step size: 20.000{{c}}, octave size: 1200.00{{c}}
Pure-octaves 60edo approximates all harmonics up to 16 within 8.83{{c}}.
{{Harmonics in equal|60|2|1|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 60edo}}
{{Harmonics in equal|60|2|1|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 60edo (continued)}}


; 255ed19
; [[ed12|215ed12]]
* Step size: 20.009{{c}}, octave size: 1200.55{{c}}
Stretching the octave of 215ed12 by around half a cent results in improved primes 3, 5 and 7, but worse primes 2, 11 and 13. This approximates all harmonics up to 16 within 9.44{{c}}. The tuning 215ed12 does this.
{{Harmonics in equal|215|12|1|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 215ed12}}
{{Harmonics in equal|215|12|1|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 215ed12 (continued)}}


The tuning [[255ed19]] is [[60edo]] but with slightly ''[[Octave shrinking|compressed]]'' octaves.  
; [[WE|60et, 13-limit WE tuning]] / [[155ed6]]
* Step size: 20.013{{c}}, octave size: 1200.78{{c}}
Stretching the octave of 60edo by just under a cent results in improved primes 3, 5, 7 and 11, but worse primes 2 and 13. This approximates all harmonics up to 16 within 8.63{{c}}. Its 13-limit WE tuning and 13-limit [[TE]] tuning both do this. So does 155ed6 whose octaves differ by only 0.02{{c}}.
{{Harmonics in cet|20.013|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 60et, 13-limit WE tuning}}
{{Harmonics in cet|20.013|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 60et, 13-limit WE tuning (continued)}}


It causes a relatively large improvement to [[11/1]], at the cost of relatively small worsening of every smaller prime.
; [[95edt]]  
* Step size: 20.021{{c}}, octave size: 1201.23{{c}}
Stretching the octave of 60edo by just over a cent results in improved primes 3, 5, 7 and 11, but worse primes 2 and 13. This approximates all harmonics up to 16 within 7.06{{c}}. The tuning 95edt does this.
{{Harmonics in equal|95|3|1|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 95edt}}
{{Harmonics in equal|95|3|1|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 95edt (continued)}}


It also causes the [[val]] for [[7/1]] to flip from 168 steps to 169.
; [[zpi|301zpi]]  
{{Harmonics in equal|255|19|1|intervals=prime|columns=11|collapsed=1}}
* Step size: 20.027{{c}}, octave size: 1201.62{{c}}
Stretching the octave of 60edo by around 1.5{{c}} results in improved primes 3, 5, 7, 11 and 13, but worse primes 2. This approximates all harmonics up to 16 within 6.48{{c}}. The tuning 301zpi does this.
{{Harmonics in cet|20.027|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 301zpi}}
{{Harmonics in cet| 20.027 |intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 301zpi (continued)}}


; 208ed11
; [[139ed5]]
* Step size: 20.045{{c}}, octave size: 1202.73{{c}}
Stretching the octave of 60edo by a little under{{c}} results in improved primes 5, 7 and 11, but worse primes 2, 3 and 13. This approximates all harmonics up to 16 within 9.56{{c}}. The tuning 139ed5 does this.
{{Harmonics in equal|139|5|1|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 139ed5}}
{{Harmonics in equal|139|5|1|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 139ed5 (continued)}}


The tuning [[208ed11]] is [[60edo]] but with slightly ''[[Octave shrinking|compressed]]'' octaves.
; [[35edf]]  
* Step size: 20.056{{c}}, octave size: 1203.35{{c}}
Stretching the octave of 60edo by a little over 3{{c}} results in improved primes 5, 7 and 11 but worse primes 2, 3 and 13. This approximates all harmonics up to 16 within 10.00{{c}}. The tuning 35edf does this.
{{Harmonics in equal|35|3|2|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 35edf}}
{{Harmonics in equal|35|3|2|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 35edf (continued)}}


It causes a relatively large improvement to [[7/1]] and [[11/1]], at the cost of moderate worsening of [[2/1]], [[3/1]] and [[5/1]].
== Scales ==
 
* [[5- to 10-tone scales in 60edo]]
It also causes the [[val]]s to flip for [[5/1]], [[7/1]] and [[17/1]].
* Amulet{{idiosyncratic}} (approximated from [[25edo]], subset of [[magic]]): 5 2 5 5 2 5 7 5 5 2 5 7 5
{{Harmonics in equal|208|11|1|intervals=prime|columns=11|collapsed=1}}
* Approximations of [[gamelan]] scales:
 
** 5-tone pelog: 6 8 20 5 21
; 272ed23
** 7-tone pelog: 6 8 12 8 5 14 7
 
** 5-tone slendro: 12 12 12 12 12
The tuning [[272ed23]] is [[60edo]] but with slightly ''[[Octave shrinking|compressed]]'' octaves.
 
It causes a relatively large improvement to [[7/1]] and [[11/1]], at the cost of moderate worsening of [[2/1]], [[3/1]] and [[5/1]].
 
It also causes the [[val]]s to flip for [[5/1]], [[7/1]], [[13/1]] and [[17/1]].
 
These characteristics, particularly the flipped 5/1 and 13/1, are preferred over pure-octaves 60edo for [[catnip]] temperament specifically. They change catnip’s [[wart]]s from 60cf to 272dg (later letters in the alphabet are better).
 
Given this, 272ed23 can be thought of as a 60edo clone tailor-made for catnip.
{{Harmonics in equal|272|23|1|intervals=prime|columns=11|collapsed=1}}


== Instruments ==
== Instruments ==
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* [http://x31eq.com/music/dingshi.mp3 ''Dingshi'']
* [http://x31eq.com/music/dingshi.mp3 ''Dingshi'']
* ''Gene's Jitterbug'' [http://x31eq.com/music/jitter.ogg (ogg)] [http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Breed/jitter.mp3 (mp3)] [http://x31eq.com/music/jitter60.pdf Score]
* ''Gene's Jitterbug'' [http://x31eq.com/music/jitter.ogg (ogg)] [http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Breed/jitter.mp3 (mp3)] [http://x31eq.com/music/jitter60.pdf Score]
; [[Bryan Deister]]
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nlKHUDCR3pI ''60edo improv''] (2025)


; [[Robin Perry]]
; [[Robin Perry]]