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== Theory == | == Theory == | ||
The [[3/2|perfect fifth]] of 16edo is 27 cents flat of 3/2, flatter than that of [[7edo]] so that it generates an [[2L 5s|antidiatonic]] instead of [[5L 2s|diatonic]] scale, but sharper than [[9edo]]'s fifth, to which it similarly retains the characteristic of being a fifth while being distinctly flat of 3/2. If the fifth is interpreted as 3/2, this befits a tuning of [[mavila]], the [[5-limit]] [[regular temperament|temperament]] that [[tempering out|tempers out]] [[135/128]], such that a stack of four fifths gives a [[6/5]] minor third instead of the familiar [[5/4]] major third as in [[meantone]]. A more accurate restriction is [[mabilic]], which discards the inaccurate mapping of 3 while keeping the fifth as a generator. | |||
Four steps of 16edo gives the 300{{c}} minor third interval shared by [[12edo]] (and other multiples of [[4edo]]), and thus the familiar [[diminished seventh chord]] may be built on any scale step with | This leads to some confusion in regards to interval names, as what would be major in diatonic now sounds minor; there are several ways to handle this (see in [[#Intervals]]). | ||
In general, 16edo tends to better approximate the differences between odd [[harmonic]]s than odd harmonics themselves, though it has a [[5/1|5th harmonic]] which is only 11 cents flat, and a [[7/1|7th harmonic]] which is only 6 cents sharp. As such, 16edo can be seen as an approach to tuning that takes advantage of the idea that simpler ratios can be functionally approximated with greater error (i.e. a 3/2 that's 25 cents flat is still recognizable, but a 5/4 that's 25 cents flat loses much of its identity and a 7/4 that's 25 cents flat is completely unrecognizable). In essence, 16edo's 3, 5, and 7 are backwards from 12edo's, with 7 being nearly perfect, 5 being decent, and 3 being distinctly out-of-tune. | |||
In terms of higher primes, both 11 and 13 are approximated very flat, with the [[11/8]] not distinguished from [[4/3]], and [[13/8]] not distinguished from [[8/5]]. 16edo represents the no-9 no-15 [[25-odd-limit]] [[consistent]]ly, however. | |||
Four steps of 16edo gives the 300{{c}} minor third interval shared by [[12edo]] (and other multiples of [[4edo]]), which approximates [[6/5]], and thus tempers out 648/625, the [[diminished comma]]. This means that the familiar [[diminished seventh chord]] may be built on any scale step with four unique tetrads up to [[octave equivalence]]. The minor third is of course not distinguished from the septimal subminor third, [[7/6]], so [[36/35]] and moreover [[50/49]] are tempered out, making 16edo a possible tuning for [[diminished (temperament)|septimal diminished]]. Another possible interpretation for this interval is the 19th harmonic, [[19/16]]. | |||
16edo shares several similarities with 15edo. They both share mappings of [[8/7]], [[5/4]], and [[3/2]] in terms of edosteps – in fact, they are both [[valentine]] tunings, and thus [[slendric]] tunings. 16edo and 15edo also both have three types of seconds and two types of thirds (not including arto/tendo thirds). However, 15edo's fifth is sharp while 16's is flat. | |||
16edo works as a tuning for [[extraclassical tonality]], due to its ultramajor third of 450 cents. | |||
=== Odd harmonics === | === Odd harmonics === | ||
{{Harmonics in equal|16}} | {{Harmonics in equal|16}} | ||
=== Octave stretch === | |||
Having a flat tendency, 16et is best tuned with [[stretched octave]]s, which improve the accuracy of wide-voiced JI chords and [[rooted]] harmonics especially on inharmonic timbres such as bells and gamelans, with [[25edt]], [[41ed6]], and [[57ed12]] being good options. | |||
=== Subsets and supersets === | === Subsets and supersets === | ||
Since 16 factors into primes as 2<sup>4</sup>, 16edo has subset edos {{EDOs| 2, 4, and 8 }}. | Since 16 factors into primes as 2<sup>4</sup>, 16edo has subset edos {{EDOs| 2, 4, and 8 }}. | ||
=== Composition theory === | |||
* [[User:VectorGraphics/16edo theory|Vector's approach]] | |||
* [[Armodue harmony]] | |||
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== Intervals == | == Intervals == | ||
{{Mavila}} | |||
Alternatively, one can use Armodue nine-nominal notation. | |||
Alternatively, one can use Armodue nine-nominal notation | |||
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16edo notation can be easy utilizing [[Goldsmith's Circle]] of keys, nominals, and respective notation{{clarify}}. The nominals for a 6 line staff can be switched for [[Erv Wilson]]'s Beta and Epsilon additions to A–G. The Armodue model uses a 4-line staff for 16edo. | 16edo notation can be easy utilizing [[Goldsmith's Circle]] of keys, nominals, and respective notation{{clarify}}. The nominals for a 6 line staff can be switched for [[Erv Wilson]]'s Beta and Epsilon additions to A–G. The Armodue model uses a 4-line staff for 16edo. | ||
Mos scales like Mavila[7] (or "inverse/anti-diatonic" which reverses step sizes of diatonic from LLsLLLs to ssLsssL in the heptatonic variation) can work as an alternative to the traditional diatonic scale, while maintaining conventional A–G ♯/♭ notation as described above. Alternatively, one can utilize the Mavila[9] mos, for a sort of "hyper-diatonic" scale of 7 large steps and 2 small steps. [[Armodue theory|Armodue notation]] of 16edo "Mavila[9] Staff" does just this, and places the arrangement (222122221) on nine white "natural" keys of the 16edo keyboard. If the 9-note (enneatonic) mos is adopted as a notational basis for 16edo, then we need an entirely different set of interval classes than any of the heptatonic classes described above; perhaps it even makes sense to refer to the octave ([[2/1]]) as the "[[decave]]". | Mos scales like Mavila[7] (or "inverse/anti-diatonic" which reverses step sizes of diatonic from LLsLLLs to ssLsssL in the heptatonic variation) can work as an alternative to the traditional diatonic scale, while maintaining conventional A–G ♯/♭ notation as described above. Alternatively, one can utilize the Mavila[9] mos, for a sort of "hyper-diatonic" scale of 7 large steps and 2 small steps. [[Armodue theory|Armodue notation]] of 16edo "Mavila[9] Staff" does just this, and places the arrangement (222122221) on nine white "natural" keys of the 16edo keyboard. If the 9-note (enneatonic) mos is adopted as a notational basis for 16edo, then we need an entirely different set of interval classes than any of the heptatonic classes described above; perhaps it even makes sense to refer to the octave ([[2/1]]) as the "[[decave]]". This is identical to the KISS notation for this scale when using numbers. | ||
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[http://www.armodue.com/ricerche.htm Armodue]: Pierpaolo Beretta's website for his Armodue theory for 16edo (esadekaphonic), including compositions. | [http://www.armodue.com/ricerche.htm Armodue]: Pierpaolo Beretta's website for his Armodue theory for 16edo (esadekaphonic), including compositions. | ||
For | For resources on the Armodue theory, see the [[Armodue]] on this wiki | ||
== Chord names == | == Chord names == | ||
16edo chords can be named using ups and downs. Using diatonic interval names, | 16edo chords can be named using ups and downs. Using diatonic interval names, chord names bear little relationship to the sound: a minor chord (spelled {{dash|A, C, E|med}}) sounds like [[4:5:6]], the classical major triad, and a major chord (spelled {{dash|C, E, G|med}}) sounds like [[10:12:15]], a classical minor triad! Instead, using antidiatonic names, the chord names will match the sound—but finding the name from the spelling follows the rules of antidiatonic rather than diatonic interval arithmetic. | ||
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[[:File:16ed2-001.svg|16ed2-001.svg]] | [[:File:16ed2-001.svg|16ed2-001.svg]] | ||
== Octave theory == | == Octave theory == | ||
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== Regular temperament properties == | == Regular temperament properties == | ||
=== Uniform maps === | === Uniform maps === | ||
{{Uniform map| | {{Uniform map|edo=16}} | ||
=== Commas === | === Commas === | ||
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| 5\16 | | 5\16 | ||
| [[ | | [[Magic]]/[[muggles]] | ||
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* [[magic]] anti-diatonic 3L4s 1414141 (5\16, 1\1) | * [[magic]] anti-diatonic 3L4s 1414141 (5\16, 1\1) | ||
* [[magic]] superdiatonic 3L7s 1311311311 (5\16, 1\1) | * [[magic]] superdiatonic 3L7s 1311311311 (5\16, 1\1) | ||
* | * [[magic]] chromatic 11121121112 3L10s (5\16, 1\1) | ||
* [[mavila]] anti-diatonic 2L5s 2223223 (9\16, 1\1) | * [[mavila]] anti-diatonic 2L5s 2223223 (9\16, 1\1) | ||
* [[mavila]] superdiatonic 7L2s 222212221 (9\16, 1\1) | * [[mavila]] superdiatonic 7L2s 222212221 (9\16, 1\1) | ||
* [[gorgo]] 5L1s 333331 (3\16, 1\1) | * [[gorgo]] 5L1s 333331 (3\16, 1\1) | ||
* [[lemba]] 4L2s 332332 (3\16, 1\2) | * [[lemba]] 4L2s 332332 (3\16, 1\2) | ||
'''Mavila''' | '''Mavila''' | ||
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== Metallic harmony == | == Metallic harmony == | ||
In 16edo, triadic harmony can be based on on heptatonic sevenths (or seconds) rather than thirds. For instance, 16edo approximates 7/4 well enough to use | |||
it in place of the usual 3/2, and in Mavila[7] this 7/4 approximation shares an interval class with a well-approximated 11/6 (at 1050{{c}}). Stacking these two intervals reaches 2025{{c}}, or a minor 6th plus an octave. Thus the out-of-tune 675{{c}} interval is bypassed, and all the dyads in the triad are consonant. | it in place of the usual 3/2, and in Mavila[7] this 7/4 approximation shares an interval class with a well-approximated 11/6 (at 1050{{c}}). Stacking these two intervals reaches 2025{{c}}, or a minor 6th plus an octave. Thus the out-of-tune 675{{c}} interval is bypassed, and all the dyads in the triad are consonant. | ||
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[[File:16-EDO-PIano-Diagram.png|alt=16-EDO-PIano-Diagram.png|748x293px|16-EDO-PIano-Diagram.png]] | [[File:16-EDO-PIano-Diagram.png|alt=16-EDO-PIano-Diagram.png|748x293px|16-EDO-PIano-Diagram.png]] | ||
''' | '''Interleaved edos''' | ||
A visualization of 16edo being two interleaved copies of [[8edo]] and four interleaved copies of [[4edo]]. | |||
[[File:16edo_wheel_01.png|alt=16edo wheel 01.png|325x325px|16edo wheel 01.png]] | [[File:16edo_wheel_01.png|alt=16edo wheel 01.png|325x325px|16edo wheel 01.png]] | ||
=== Lumatone mapping === | |||
See: [[Lumatone mapping for 16edo]] | See: [[Lumatone mapping for 16edo]] | ||
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; [[Bryan Deister]] | ; [[Bryan Deister]] | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IfVvjoRqqNk ''16edo jam''] (2025) | * [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IfVvjoRqqNk ''16edo jam''] (2025) | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUgbkkIvy0g ''Waltz in 16edo''] (2025) | |||
; [[E8 Heterotic]] | ; [[E8 Heterotic]] | ||
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* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYkmT46oGhw ''Canon at the Semitone on The Mother's Malison Theme'', for Cor Anglais and Violin] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6BUauD8EaE for Organ]) | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYkmT46oGhw ''Canon at the Semitone on The Mother's Malison Theme'', for Cor Anglais and Violin] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6BUauD8EaE for Organ]) | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7LUSRd1kMg ''Canon on Twinkle Twinkle Little Star'', for Organ] (2023) ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHJYyqge_JQ for Baroque Oboe and Viola]) | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7LUSRd1kMg ''Canon on Twinkle Twinkle Little Star'', for Organ] (2023) ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHJYyqge_JQ for Baroque Oboe and Viola]) | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/I4-URAGgQMQ ''Baroque Micropiece in 16edo''] (2024) | |||
; [[Herman Miller]] | ; [[Herman Miller]] |