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== Theory == | == Theory == | ||
37edo | 37edo has very accurate approximations of harmonics [[5/1|5]], [[7/1|7]], [[11/1|11]] and [[13/1|13]], making it a good choice for a [[no-threes subgroup temperaments|no-threes]] approach. Harmonic 11 is particularly accurate, being only 0.03 cents sharp. | ||
Using its best (and sharp) fifth, 37edo tempers out 250/243, making it a variant of [[porcupine]] temperament. It is the [[optimal patent val]] for [[Porcupine family #Porcupinefish|porcupinefish]], which is about as accurate as 13-limit porcupine extensions will be. Using its alternative flat fifth, it tempers out [[16875/16384]], making it a [[negri]] tuning. It also tempers out 2187/2000, resulting in a temperament where three minor whole tones make up a fifth ([[gorgo]]/[[laconic]]). | Using its best (and sharp) fifth, 37edo tempers out 250/243, making it a variant of [[porcupine]] temperament. It is the [[optimal patent val]] for [[Porcupine family #Porcupinefish|porcupinefish]], which is about as accurate as 13-limit porcupine extensions will be. Using its alternative flat fifth, it tempers out [[16875/16384]], making it a [[negri]] tuning. It also tempers out 2187/2000, resulting in a temperament where three minor whole tones make up a fifth ([[gorgo]]/[[laconic]]). | ||
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37edo is also a very accurate equal tuning for [[undecimation]] temperament, which has a [[generator]] of about 519 cents; 2 generators lead to 29/16; 3 generators to 32/13; 6 generators to a 10 cent sharp 6/1; 8 generators to a very accurate 11/1 and 10 generators to 20/1. It has a [[7L 2s]] enneatonic [[mos]], which in 37edo scale degrees is 0, 1, 6, 11, 16, 17, 22, 27, 32, a scale structure reminiscent of mavila; as well as a 16-note mos. | 37edo is also a very accurate equal tuning for [[undecimation]] temperament, which has a [[generator]] of about 519 cents; 2 generators lead to 29/16; 3 generators to 32/13; 6 generators to a 10 cent sharp 6/1; 8 generators to a very accurate 11/1 and 10 generators to 20/1. It has a [[7L 2s]] enneatonic [[mos]], which in 37edo scale degrees is 0, 1, 6, 11, 16, 17, 22, 27, 32, a scale structure reminiscent of mavila; as well as a 16-note mos. | ||
In the no-3 [[13-odd-limit]], | In the no-3 [[13-odd-limit]], 37edo maintains the smallest relative error of any edo until [[851edo]], and the smallest absolute error until [[103edo]]{{clarify}}. <!-- what is the metric being used? --> | ||
=== Odd harmonics === | === Odd harmonics === | ||
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37edo has great potential as a near-just xenharmonic system, with high-prime chords such as 8:10:11:13:14 with no perfect fifths available for common terrestrial progressions. The 9/8 approximation is usable but introduces error. One may choose to treat either of the intervals close to 3/2 as 3/2, introducing additional approximations with considerable error (see interval table below). | 37edo has great potential as a near-just xenharmonic system, with high-prime chords such as 8:10:11:13:14 with no perfect fifths available for common terrestrial progressions. The 9/8 approximation is usable but introduces error. One may choose to treat either of the intervals close to 3/2 as 3/2, introducing additional approximations with considerable error (see interval table below). | ||
=== No-3 approach === | |||
If prime 3 is ignored, 37edo represents the no-3 23-odd-limit consistently, and is distinctly consistent within the no-3 16-integer-limit. | |||
== Intervals == | == Intervals == | ||
{| class="wikitable center-1 right-2" | {| class="wikitable center-1 right-2" | ||
|- | |- | ||
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== Notation == | == Notation == | ||
=== Ups and downs notation === | |||
=== Ups and | 37edo can be notated using [[ups and downs notation]]: | ||
{| class="wikitable center-all right-2 left-3" | {| class="wikitable center-all right-2 left-3" | ||
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! Degrees | ! Degrees | ||
! Cents | ! Cents | ||
! colspan="3" | [[Ups and | ! colspan="3" | [[Ups and downs notation]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 0 | | 0 | ||
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|} | |} | ||
===Sagittal notation=== | 37edo can be notated with ups and downs, spoken as up, dup, trup, dudsharp, downsharp, sharp, upsharp etc. and down, dud, trud, dupflat etc. | ||
{{Sharpness-sharp6a}} | |||
Half-sharps and half-flats can be used to avoid triple arrows: | |||
{{Sharpness-sharp6b}} | |||
[[Alternative symbols for ups and downs notation#Sharp-6| Alternative ups and downs]] have sharps and flats with arrows borrowed from extended [[Helmholtz–Ellis notation]]: | |||
{{Sharpness-sharp6}} | |||
If double arrows are not desirable, arrows can be attached to quarter-tone accidentals: | |||
{{Sharpness-sharp6-qt}} | |||
=== Ivan Wyschnegradsky's notation === | |||
Since a sharp raises by six steps, Wyschnegradsky accidentals borrowed from [[72edo]] can also be used: | |||
{{Sharpness-sharp6-iw}} | |||
=== Sagittal notation === | |||
This notation uses the same sagittal sequence as EDOs [[23edo#Second-best fifth notation|23b]], [[30edo#Sagittal notation|30]], and [[44edo#Sagittal notation|44]]. | This notation uses the same sagittal sequence as EDOs [[23edo#Second-best fifth notation|23b]], [[30edo#Sagittal notation|30]], and [[44edo#Sagittal notation|44]]. | ||
==== Evo and Revo flavors ==== | |||
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File:37-EDO_Sagittal.svg | File:37-EDO_Sagittal.svg | ||
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====Alternative Evo flavor==== | ==== Alternative Evo flavor ==== | ||
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File:37-EDO_Alternative_Evo_Sagittal.svg | File:37-EDO_Alternative_Evo_Sagittal.svg | ||
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====Evo-SZ flavor==== | ==== Evo-SZ flavor ==== | ||
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File:37-EDO_Evo-SZ_Sagittal.svg | File:37-EDO_Evo-SZ_Sagittal.svg | ||
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== Regular temperament properties == | == Regular temperament properties == | ||
{| class="wikitable center-4 center-5 center-6" | {| class="wikitable center-4 center-5 center-6" | ||
|- | |||
! rowspan="2" | [[Subgroup]] | ! rowspan="2" | [[Subgroup]] | ||
! rowspan="2" | [[Comma list]] | ! rowspan="2" | [[Comma list]] | ||
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| {{monzo| 86 -37 }} | | {{monzo| 86 -37 }} | ||
| {{mapping| 37 86 }} | | {{mapping| 37 86 }} | ||
| | | −0.619 | ||
| 0.619 | | 0.619 | ||
| 1.91 | | 1.91 | ||
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| 3136/3125, 4194304/4117715 | | 3136/3125, 4194304/4117715 | ||
| {{mapping| 37 86 104 }} | | {{mapping| 37 86 104 }} | ||
| | | −0.905 | ||
| 0.647 | | 0.647 | ||
| 2.00 | | 2.00 | ||
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| 176/175, 1375/1372, 65536/65219 | | 176/175, 1375/1372, 65536/65219 | ||
| {{mapping| 37 86 104 128 }} | | {{mapping| 37 86 104 128 }} | ||
| | | −0.681 | ||
| 0.681 | | 0.681 | ||
| 2.10 | | 2.10 | ||
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| 176/175, 640/637, 847/845, 1375/1372 | | 176/175, 640/637, 847/845, 1375/1372 | ||
| {{mapping| 37 86 104 128 137 }} | | {{mapping| 37 86 104 128 137 }} | ||
| | | −0.692 | ||
| 0.610 | | 0.610 | ||
| 1.88 | | 1.88 | ||
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== Scales == | == Scales == | ||
* [[MOS Scales of 37edo]] | * [[MOS Scales of 37edo]] | ||
* [[ | * [[Chromatic pairs#Roulette|Roulette scales]] | ||
* [[37ED4]] | * [[37ED4]] | ||
* [[Square root of 13 over 10]] | * [[Square root of 13 over 10]] | ||
=== Every 8 steps of 37edo === | |||
{| class="wikitable center-1 right-2" | |||
|+ | |||
!Degrees | |||
!Cents | |||
!Approximate Ratios<br>of 6.7.11.20.27 subgroup | |||
!Additional Ratios | |||
|- | |||
|0 | |||
|0.000 | |||
|[[1/1]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
|1 | |||
|259.46 | |||
|[[7/6]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
|2 | |||
|518.92 | |||
|[[27/20]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
|3 | |||
|778.38 | |||
|[[11/7]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
|4 | |||
|1037.84 | |||
|[[20/11]], [[11/6]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
|5 | |||
|1297.30 | |||
| | |||
|[[19/9]] | |||
|- | |||
|6 | |||
|1556.76 | |||
|[[27/11]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
|7 | |||
|1816.22 | |||
|[[20/7]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
|8 | |||
|2075.68 | |||
|[[10/3]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
|9 | |||
|2335.14 | |||
|[[27/7]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
|10 | |||
|2594.59 | |||
|[[9/2]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
|11 | |||
|2854.05 | |||
| | |||
|[[26/5]] | |||
|- | |||
|12 | |||
|3113.51 | |||
|[[6/1]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
|13 | |||
|3372.97 | |||
|[[7/1]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
|14 | |||
|3632.43 | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
|15 | |||
|3891.89 | |||
| | |||
|[[19/2]] | |||
|- | |||
|16 | |||
|4151.35 | |||
|[[11/1]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
|17 | |||
|4410.81 | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
|18 | |||
|4670.27 | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
|19 | |||
|4929.73 | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
|20 | |||
|5189.19 | |||
|[[20/1]] | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
|21 | |||
|5448.65 | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
|22 | |||
|5708.11 | |||
|[[27/1]] | |||
| | |||
|} | |||
== Instruments == | |||
; Lumatone | |||
* [[Lumatone mapping for 37edo]] | |||
; Fretted instruments | |||
* [[Skip fretting system 37 2 7]] | |||
== Music == | == Music == | ||
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* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IULi2zSdatA ''Mindless vibe''] (2023) | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IULi2zSdatA ''Mindless vibe''] (2023) | ||
; [[ | ; [[Bryan Deister]] | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/e7dLJTsS3PQ ''37edo''] (2025) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/m9hmiH8zong ''37edo jam''] (2025) | |||
; [[Francium]] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpPjVouoq3E ''5 days in''] (2023) | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpPjVouoq3E ''5 days in''] (2023) | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngxSiuVadls ''A Dark Era Arises''] (2023) – | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngxSiuVadls ''A Dark Era Arises''] (2023) – in Porcupine[15], 37edo tuning | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U93XFJJ1aXw ''Two Faced People''] (2025) – in Twothirdtonic[10], 37edo tuning | |||
; [[Andrew Heathwaite]] | ; [[Andrew Heathwaite]] | ||
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; [[JUMBLE]] | ; [[JUMBLE]] | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taT1DClJ2KM ''Tyrian and Gold''] (2024) | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taT1DClJ2KM ''Tyrian and Gold''] (2024) | ||
; [[User:Fitzgerald Lee|Fitzgerald Lee]] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr0cUJcL4SU ''Bittersweet End''] (2025) | |||
; [[Mandrake]] | ; [[Mandrake]] | ||
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* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dU8eyGbt9I ''Deck The Halls''] (2022) | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dU8eyGbt9I ''Deck The Halls''] (2022) | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTAobydvC20 Marcello - Bach: Adagio from BWV 974, arranged for Oboe & Organ, tuned into 37edo] (2022) | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTAobydvC20 Marcello - Bach: Adagio from BWV 974, arranged for Oboe & Organ, tuned into 37edo] (2022) | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpjZZXFM_Fk ''Little Fugue on Happy Birthday''] (2022) – | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpjZZXFM_Fk ''Little Fugue on Happy Birthday''] (2022) – in Passion, 37edo tuning | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgHY3snZ5bs ''Fugue on an Original Theme''] (2022) | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgHY3snZ5bs ''Fugue on an Original Theme''] (2022) | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ2sa-fRqbE Paradies, Toccata, Arranged for Organ and Tuned into 37edo] (2023) | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ2sa-fRqbE Paradies, Toccata, Arranged for Organ and Tuned into 37edo] (2023) | ||
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; [[Ray Perlner]] | ; [[Ray Perlner]] | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8reCr2nDGbw ''Porcupine Lullaby''] (2020) – | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8reCr2nDGbw ''Porcupine Lullaby''] (2020) – in Porcupine, 37edo tuning | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8C9ECvfyQM ''Fugue for Brass in 37EDO sssLsss "Dingoian"''] (2022) – | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8C9ECvfyQM ''Fugue for Brass in 37EDO sssLsss "Dingoian"''] (2022) – in Porcupine[7], 37edo tuning | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xfvNKUu8gY ''Fugue for Klezmer Band in 37EDO Porcupine<nowiki>[</nowiki>7<nowiki>]</nowiki> sssssLs "Lemurian"''] (2023) – | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xfvNKUu8gY ''Fugue for Klezmer Band in 37EDO Porcupine<nowiki>[</nowiki>7<nowiki>]</nowiki> sssssLs "Lemurian"''] (2023) – in Porcupine[7], 37edo tuning | ||
; [[Phanomium]] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2otxZqUrvHc ''Elevated Floors''] (2025) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbexOU-9700 ''cat jam 37''] (2025) | |||
; [[Togenom]] | ; [[Togenom]] | ||
* "Canals of Mars" from ''Xenharmonics, Vol. 5'' (2024) – [https://open.spotify.com/track/7v2dpCjiRKUfVVBZw8aWSf Spotify] |[https://togenom.bandcamp.com/track/canals-of-mars Bandcamp] | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPcEl_bifC0 YouTube] | * "Canals of Mars" from ''Xenharmonics, Vol. 5'' (2024) – [https://open.spotify.com/track/7v2dpCjiRKUfVVBZw8aWSf Spotify] |[https://togenom.bandcamp.com/track/canals-of-mars Bandcamp] | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPcEl_bifC0 YouTube] | ||
; [[Uncreative Name]] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE9L56yZ1Kw ''Winter''] (2025) | |||
; <nowiki>XENO*n*</nowiki> | |||
* ''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m5u4VviMXw Galantean Drift]'' (2025) | |||
== See also == | == See also == | ||
* [[ | * [[User:Unque/37edo Composition Theory|Unque's approach]] | ||
== External links == | == External links == |