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== Theory == | == Theory == | ||
Up to this point, all the multiples of 5 have had the 720{{c}} blackwood | Up to this point, all the multiples of 5 have had the 720{{c}} [[blackwood]] fifth as their best approximation of [[3/2]] apart from [[35edo]], which combines the small circles of blackwood and whitewood fifths, almost equally far from just, requiring the use of both to reach all keys. 40edo adds a diatonic fifth that's closer to just. However, it is still the second flattest diatonic fifth found in the [[Val|patent val]] of an edo, only exceeded by [[47edo]] in error, which results in it being inconsistent in the [[5-limit]] - combining the best 5/4 (390{{c}}) and the best 6/5 (330{{c}}) will result in the blackwood fifth instead. So some may not consider it a valid perfect fifth. | ||
Despite all keys being reachable by stacking this | Despite all keys being reachable by stacking this fifth, it does not qualify as meantone either. Instead, it supports [[deeptone]], which tempers out [[177147/163840]] and [[1053/1024]] in the patent val instead of [[81/80]], meaning that four fifths make a near perfect [[16/13|tridecimal neutral third (16/13)]] and it takes a full 11 fifths (i.e. at the augmented third) to reach the 5th harmonic. A simple 5-limit temperament 40edo does support is [[diminished]], equating 6/5 to 300 cents. Diminished temperament is familiar due to also being supported [[12edo]], but 40edo's tuning is quite different from 12edo's (at least with the 12-note or greater MOSes). | ||
81/80 is only tempered out in the 40c alternative val where the aforementioned high neutral | 40edo tempers out [[648/625]] in the 5-limit; [[225/224]] and [[16807/16384]] in the [[7-limit]]; [[99/98]], [[121/120]] and [[176/175]] in the [[11-limit]] - tuning [[orwell]] though highly suboptimally; and [[66/65]] in the 13-limit. | ||
81/80 is only tempered out in the 40c alternative [[val]] where the aforementioned high neutral third is equated with 5/4 instead of the much more accurate 390-cent interval. The resulting [[5L 2s]] scale has large steps of 6 intervals and small ones of 5, putting sharps and flats right next to letters without any ups or downs in between and requiring a lot of them to notate more distant keys. | |||
=== Odd harmonics === | === Odd harmonics === | ||
40edo is most accurate on the 2.9.5.21.33.13.51.19.23 [[k*N_subgroups| 2*40 subgroup]], where it offers the same tuning as [[80edo|80edo]], and tempers out the same commas. It is also the first equal temperament to approximate both the 23rd and 19th harmonic, by tempering out the 9 cent comma to 4-edo, with 10 divisions therein. | 40edo is most accurate on the 2.9.5.21.33.13.51.19.23 [[k*N_subgroups| 2*40 subgroup]], where it offers the same tuning as [[80edo|80edo]], and tempers out the same commas. It is also the first equal temperament to approximate both the 23rd and 19th harmonic, by tempering out the 9 cent comma to 4-edo, with 10 divisions therein. | ||
40edo can be treated as a [[dual-fifth system]] in the 2.3+.3-.5.7.11 subgroup, or the 2.3+.3-.5.7.11.13.19.23 subgroup for those who aren’t intimidated by lots of [[basis element]]s. Both of its fifths | 40edo can be treated as a [[dual-fifth system]] in the 2.3+.3-.5.7.11 subgroup, or the 2.3+.3-.5.7.11.13.19.23 subgroup for those who aren’t intimidated by lots of [[basis element]]s. Both of its fifths can sound [[consonant]] to many listeners. | ||
{{harmonics in equal|40}} | {{harmonics in equal|40}} | ||
== Intervals == | == Intervals == | ||
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{| class="wikitable center-all" | {| class="wikitable center-all" | ||
|- | |- | ||
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! style="text-align: center;" | Cents | ! style="text-align: center;" | Cents | ||
! colspan="3" | Notation | ! colspan="3" | Notation | ||
! | ! Approximate ratios | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 0 | ! 0 | ||
| 0¢ | |||
| perfect unison | | perfect unison | ||
| P1 | | P1 | ||
| D | | D | ||
| 1 | | [[1/1]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 1 | ! 1 | ||
| 30 | |||
| augmented 1sn | | augmented 1sn | ||
| A1 | | A1 | ||
| D# | | D# | ||
| | | [[33/32]], ''[[36/35]]'', [[49/48]], [[81/80|''80/81'']] | ||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 2 | ! 2 | ||
| 60 | |||
| double-aug 1sn | | double-aug 1sn | ||
| AA1 | | AA1 | ||
| Dx | | Dx | ||
| | | ''[[21/20]]'', ''[[64/63]]'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 3 | ! 3 | ||
| 90 | |||
| double-dim 2nd | | triple-aug 1sn, double-dim 2nd | ||
| dd2 | | dd2 | ||
| D#x, Ebbb | | D#x, Ebbb | ||
| | | ''[[25/24]]'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 4 | ! 4 | ||
| 120 | |||
| diminished 2nd | | diminished 2nd | ||
| d2 | | d2 | ||
| Ebb | | Ebb | ||
| 15 | |[[14/13]], [[15/14]], [[16/15]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 5 | ! 5 | ||
| 150 | |||
| minor 2nd | | minor 2nd | ||
| m2 | | m2 | ||
| Eb | | Eb | ||
| 12 | | [[11/10]], [[12/11]], [[13/12]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 6 | ! 6 | ||
| 180 | |||
| major 2nd | | major 2nd | ||
| M2 | | M2 | ||
| E | | E | ||
| | | ''[[9/8]]'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 7 | ! 7 | ||
| 210 | |||
| augmented 2nd | | augmented 2nd | ||
| A2 | | A2 | ||
| E# | | E# | ||
| | | ''[[10/9]]'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 8 | ! 8 | ||
| 240 | |||
| double-aug 2nd | | double-aug 2nd | ||
| AA2 | | AA2 | ||
| Ex | | Ex | ||
| 8 | | [[8/7]], [[15/13]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 9 | ! 9 | ||
| 270 | |||
| double-dim 3rd | | double-dim 3rd | ||
| dd3 | | dd3 | ||
| Fbb | | Fbb | ||
| 7 | | [[7/6]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 10 | ! 10 | ||
| 300 | |||
| diminished 3rd | | diminished 3rd | ||
| d3 | | d3 | ||
| Fb | | Fb | ||
| | | ''[[6/5]]'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 11 | ! 11 | ||
| 330 | |||
| minor 3rd | | minor 3rd | ||
| m3 | | m3 | ||
| F | | F | ||
| | | ''[[27/22]]'', [[39/32]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 12 | ! 12 | ||
| 360 | |||
| major 3rd | | major 3rd | ||
| M3 | | M3 | ||
| F# | | F# | ||
| | | ''[[11/9]]'', [[16/13]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 13 | ! 13 | ||
| 390 | |||
| augmented 3rd | | augmented 3rd | ||
| A3 | | A3 | ||
| Fx | | Fx | ||
| 5 | | [[5/4]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 14 | ! 14 | ||
| 420 | |||
| double-aug 3rd | | double-aug 3rd, triple-dim 4th | ||
| AA3 | | AA3 | ||
| F#x, Gbbb | | F#x, Gbbb | ||
| | | ''[[9/7]]'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 15 | ! 15 | ||
| 450 | |||
| double-dim 4th | | double-dim 4th | ||
| dd4 | | dd4 | ||
| Gbb | | Gbb | ||
| | | [[13/10]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 16 | ! 16 | ||
| 480 | |||
| diminished 4th | | diminished 4th | ||
| d4 | | d4 | ||
| Gb | | Gb | ||
| | | ''[[27/20]]'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 17 | ! 17 | ||
| 510 | |||
| perfect 4th | | perfect 4th | ||
| P4 | | P4 | ||
| G | | G | ||
| 4 | | [[4/3]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 18 | ! 18 | ||
| 540 | |||
| augmented 4th | | augmented 4th | ||
| A4 | | A4 | ||
| G# | | G# | ||
| 11 | | [[11/8]], [[15/11]], ''[[18/13]]'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 19 | ! 19 | ||
| 570 | |||
| double-aug 4th | | double-aug 4th | ||
| AA4 | | AA4 | ||
| G## | | G## | ||
| | | [[7/5]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 20 | ! 20 | ||
| 600 | |||
| triple-aug 4th, | | triple-aug 4th, | ||
triple-dim 5th | triple-dim 5th | ||
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ddd5 | ddd5 | ||
| Gx#, Abbb | | Gx#, Abbb | ||
| | | ''[[25/18]]'', ''[[36/25]]'' | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 21 | ! 21 | ||
| 630 | |||
| double-dim 5th | | double-dim 5th | ||
| dd5 | | dd5 | ||
| Abb | | Abb | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 22 | ! 22 | ||
| 660 | |||
| diminished 5th | | diminished 5th | ||
| d5 | | d5 | ||
| Ab | | Ab | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 23 | ! 23 | ||
| 690 | |||
| perfect 5th | | perfect 5th | ||
| P5 | | P5 | ||
| A | | A | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 24 | ! 24 | ||
| 720 | |||
| augmented 5th | | augmented 5th | ||
| A5 | | A5 | ||
| A# | | A# | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 25 | ! 25 | ||
| 750 | |||
| double-aug 5th | | double-aug 5th | ||
| AA5 | | AA5 | ||
| Ax | | Ax | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 26 | ! 26 | ||
| 780 | |||
| double-dim 6th | | double-dim 6th | ||
| dd6 | | dd6 | ||
| A#x, Bbbb | | A#x, Bbbb | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 27 | ! 27 | ||
| 810 | |||
| diminished 6th | | diminished 6th | ||
| d6 | | d6 | ||
| Bbb | | Bbb | ||
| style="text-align: center;" | | | style="text-align: center;" | | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 28 | ! 28 | ||
| 840 | |||
| minor 6th | | minor 6th | ||
| m6 | | m6 | ||
| Bb | | Bb | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 29 | ! 29 | ||
| 870 | |||
| major 6th | | major 6th | ||
| M6 | | M6 | ||
| B | | B | ||
| style="text-align: center;" | | | style="text-align: center;" | | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 30 | ! 30 | ||
| 900 | |||
| augmented 6th | | augmented 6th | ||
| A6 | | A6 | ||
| B# | | B# | ||
| style="text-align: center;" | | | style="text-align: center;" | | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 31 | ! 31 | ||
| 930 | |||
| double-aug 6th | | double-aug 6th | ||
| AA6 | | AA6 | ||
| Bx | | Bx | ||
| style="text-align: center;" | | | style="text-align: center;" | | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 32 | ! 32 | ||
| 960 | |||
| double-dim 7th | | double-dim 7th | ||
| dd7 | | dd7 | ||
| Cbb | | Cbb | ||
| style="text-align: center;" | | | style="text-align: center;" | | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 33 | ! 33 | ||
| 990 | |||
| diminished 7th | | diminished 7th | ||
| d7 | | d7 | ||
| Cb | | Cb | ||
| style="text-align: center;" | | | style="text-align: center;" | | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 34 | ! 34 | ||
| 1020 | |||
| minor 7th | | minor 7th | ||
| m7 | | m7 | ||
| C | | C | ||
| style="text-align: center;" | | | style="text-align: center;" | | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 35 | ! 35 | ||
| 1050 | |||
| major 7th | | major 7th | ||
| M7 | | M7 | ||
| C# | | C# | ||
| style="text-align: center;" | | | style="text-align: center;" | | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 36 | ! 36 | ||
| 1080 | |||
| augmented 7th | | augmented 7th | ||
| A7 | | A7 | ||
| Cx | | Cx | ||
| style="text-align: center;" | | | style="text-align: center;" | | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 37 | ! 37 | ||
| 1110 | |||
| double-aug 7th | | double-aug 7th, triple-dim 8ve | ||
| AA7 | | AA7 | ||
| C#x, Dbbb | | C#x, Dbbb | ||
| style="text-align: center;" | | | style="text-align: center;" | | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 38 | ! 38 | ||
| 1140 | |||
| double-dim 8ve | | double-dim 8ve | ||
| dd8 | | dd8 | ||
| Dbb | | Dbb | ||
| style="text-align: center;" | | | style="text-align: center;" | | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 39 | ! 39 | ||
| 1170 | |||
| diminished 8ve | | diminished 8ve | ||
| d8 | | d8 | ||
| Db | | Db | ||
| style="text-align: center;" | | | style="text-align: center;" | | ||
|- | |- | ||
! 40 | ! 40 | ||
| 1200 | |||
| perfect octave | | perfect octave | ||
| P8 | | P8 | ||
| D | | D | ||
| style="text-align: center;" | | | style="text-align: center;" | | ||
|} | |} | ||
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</imagemap> | </imagemap> | ||
== Octave stretch or compression == | |||
'''127ed9''' optimises 40edo for [[dual-fifth]] usage by distributing error evenly between its two fifths. 127ed9 is just 40edo with [[octave shrinking|octaves compressed]] by 1.9{{c}}. | |||
{{harmonics in equal|127|9|1|intervals=integer|collapsed=yes}} | |||
{{harmonics in equal|40|2|1|intervals=integer|collapsed=yes}} | |||
== Scales == | == Scales == | ||
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* 12-tone 4&10edo scale: 4 4 2 2 4 4 4 4 2 2 4 4 | * 12-tone 4&10edo scale: 4 4 2 2 4 4 4 4 2 2 4 4 | ||
* 12-tone 5&8edo scale: 5 3 2 5 1 4 4 1 5 2 3 5 | * 12-tone 5&8edo scale: 5 3 2 5 1 4 4 1 5 2 3 5 | ||
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" | |||
|+Approximated from [[96edo]] | |||
|''Contains [[Template:Idiosyncratic|idiosyncratic terms]].'' | |||
* Flattened major: 7 6 4 6 7 7 3 | |||
* Sharpened minor: 7 3 7 6 4 7 6 | |||
* Sharpened harmonic minor: 7 3 7 7 3 11 2 | |||
* Flattened major pentatonic: 6 7 10 7 10 | |||
* Sharpened minor pentatonic: 10 7 6 11 6 | |||
* Evened minor hexatonic: 6 4 7 6 10 7 | |||
* Roughened augmented: 11 3 10 3 10 3 | |||
* Evened dominant pentatonic: 7 7 9 10 7 | |||
* Sharpened Dorian: 7 3 7 7 7 3 6 | |||
* Flattened Ionian pentatonic: 13 3 7 13 4 | |||
* Sharpened Dorian harmonic: 7 3 10 4 7 3 6 | |||
* Evened Mixolydian pentatonic: 13 4 6 10 7 | |||
* Evened Phrygian dominant: 4 9 4 6 4 6 7 | |||
* Evened Phrygian dominant hexatonic: 3 10 4 6 10 7 | |||
* Sharpened Phrygian pentatonic: 4 7 13 3 13 | |||
* Sharpened minor harmonic pentatonic I: 7 3 14 13 3 | |||
* Evened hirajoshi: 7 4 12 4 13 | |||
* Sharpened hirajoshi: 7 4 13 4 12 | |||
* Extra-sharp hirajoshi: 8 3 13 4 12 | |||
* Evened akebono I: 6 5 12 6 11 | |||
* Sharpened akebono I: 7 3 14 6 10 | |||
* Extra-sharp akebono I: 7 4 13 7 9 | |||
* Evened Javanese pentachordal: 4 7 9 4 16 | |||
* Moonbeam: 7 4 12 14 3 | |||
* Palace (type of [[equiheptatonic]]): 5 6 6 6 6 6 5 | |||
* Underpass: 11 12 8 3 6 | |||
|} | |||
== Instruments == | |||
* [[Lumatone mapping for 40edo]] | |||
== Music == | == Music == | ||
=== Modern Renderings === | |||
; [https://www.nts.live/artists/83437-hi-posi Hi-Posi] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YY8rZ6ZcoXc ''Boku De Artitai''] (1994) – microtonal cover in 40edo by [[Bryan Deister]] (2026) | |||
=== 21st century === | |||
; [[Bryan Deister]] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/x5cnT4Bw1ZQ ''Balance Beam''] (2026) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fREuVtq875U ''40edo improv''] (2026) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JriWAth4vBY ''40edo idea''] (2026) | |||
; [[Claudi Meneghin]] | ; [[Claudi Meneghin]] | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMZu6ZE6A3g ''Happy Birthday Canon'', 6-in-1 Canon in 40edo] | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMZu6ZE6A3g ''Happy Birthday Canon'', 6-in-1 Canon in 40edo] | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu854Ld_uLE ''Canon on Twinkle Twinkle Little Star'', for Baroque Oboe & Viola] (2023) – ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7vDHwsboLE for Organ]) | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu854Ld_uLE ''Canon on Twinkle Twinkle Little Star'', for Baroque Oboe & Viola] (2023) – ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7vDHwsboLE for Organ]) | ||
= | ; [[Stephen Weigel]] | ||
* [ | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLmaQK10aYM ''Ĥ̶̩̠̐Ä̶̝͙́̓Ȑ̸̢͒K̷̥̩͌͑!̵̙͆̄ THE BIBLICALLY ACCURATE ANGELS SING!''] (2025; mostly in 42edo, but also some in 40edo) | ||
** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE77rwCsGHw live performance of the above in Munich, Germany] (2026) | |||
[[Category:Listen]] | [[Category:Listen]] | ||
[[Category:Todo:add rank 2 temperaments table]] | [[Category:Todo:add rank 2 temperaments table]] | ||