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== Theory == | == Theory == | ||
Up to this point, all the multiples of 5 have had the 720 | Up to this point, all the multiples of 5 have had the 720{{c}} [[blackwood]] fifth as their best approximation of [[3/2]] apart from [[35edo]], which combines the small circles of blackwood and whitewood fifths, almost equally far from just, requiring the use of both to reach all keys. 40edo adds a diatonic fifth that's closer to just. However, it is still the second flattest diatonic fifth found in the [[Val|patent val]] of an edo, only exceeded by [[47edo]] in error, which results in it being inconsistent in the [[5-limit]] - combining the best 5/4 (390{{c}}) and the best 6/5 (330{{c}}) will result in the blackwood fifth instead. So some may not consider it a valid perfect fifth. | ||
Despite all keys being reachable by stacking this fifth, it does not qualify as meantone either. Instead, it supports [[deeptone]], which tempers out [[177147/163840]] and [[1053/1024]] in the patent val instead of [[81/80]], meaning that four fifths make a near perfect [[16/13|tridecimal neutral third (16/13)]] and it takes a full 11 fifths (i.e. at the augmented third) to reach the 5th harmonic. A simple 5-limit temperament 40edo does support is [[diminished]], equating 6/5 to 300 cents. Diminished temperament is familiar due to also being supported [[12edo]], but 40edo's tuning is quite different from 12edo's (at least with the 12-note or greater MOSes). | |||
40edo tempers out [[648/625]] in the 5-limit; [[225/224]] and [[16807/16384]] in the [[7-limit]]; [[99/98]], [[121/120]] and [[176/175]] in the [[11-limit]] - tuning [[orwell]] though highly suboptimally; and [[66/65]] in the 13-limit. | |||
81/80 is only tempered out in the 40c alternative [[val]] where the aforementioned high neutral third is equated with 5/4 instead of the much more accurate 390-cent interval. The resulting [[5L 2s]] scale has large steps of 6 intervals and small ones of 5, putting sharps and flats right next to letters without any ups or downs in between and requiring a lot of them to notate more distant keys. | |||
=== Odd harmonics === | === Odd harmonics === | ||
40edo is most accurate on the 2.9.5.21.33.13.51.19.23 [[k*N_subgroups| 2*40 subgroup]], where it offers the same tuning as [[80edo|80edo]], and tempers out the same commas. It is also the first equal temperament to approximate both the 23rd and 19th harmonic, by tempering out the 9 cent comma to 4-edo, with 10 divisions therein. | |||
40edo can be treated as a [[dual-fifth system]] in the 2.3+.3-.5.7.11 subgroup, or the 2.3+.3-.5.7.11.13.19.23 subgroup for those who aren’t intimidated by lots of [[basis element]]s. Both of its fifths can sound [[consonant]] to many listeners. | |||
{{harmonics in equal|40}} | {{harmonics in equal|40}} | ||
== Intervals == | == Intervals == | ||
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{| class="wikitable center-all" | {| class="wikitable center-all" | ||
|- | |- | ||
! # | ! # | ||
! style="text-align:center;" |Cents | ! style="text-align: center;" | Cents | ||
! colspan=" | ! colspan="3" | Notation | ||
! Approximate ratios | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 0 | |||
|0¢ | | 0¢ | ||
| perfect unison | |||
| P1 | |||
| D | |||
|perfect unison | | [[1/1]] | ||
|P1 | |||
|D | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 1 | |||
|30 | | 30 | ||
| augmented 1sn | |||
| A1 | |||
| D# | |||
|augmented 1sn | | [[33/32]], ''[[36/35]]'', [[49/48]], [[81/80|''80/81'']] | ||
|A1 | |||
|D# | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 2 | |||
|60 | | 60 | ||
| double-aug 1sn | |||
| AA1 | |||
| Dx | |||
|double-aug 1sn | | ''[[21/20]]'', ''[[64/63]]'' | ||
|AA1 | |||
|Dx | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 3 | |||
|90 | | 90 | ||
| | | triple-aug 1sn, double-dim 2nd | ||
| dd2 | |||
| D#x, Ebbb | |||
| ''[[25/24]]'' | |||
|dd2 | |||
|D#x, Ebbb | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 4 | |||
|120 | | 120 | ||
| diminished 2nd | |||
| d2 | |||
| Ebb | |||
|diminished 2nd | |[[14/13]], [[15/14]], [[16/15]] | ||
|d2 | |||
|Ebb | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 5 | |||
|150 | | 150 | ||
| minor 2nd | |||
| m2 | |||
| Eb | |||
|minor 2nd | | [[11/10]], [[12/11]], [[13/12]] | ||
|m2 | |||
|Eb | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 6 | |||
|180 | | 180 | ||
| major 2nd | |||
| M2 | |||
| E | |||
|major 2nd | | ''[[9/8]]'' | ||
|M2 | |||
|E | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 7 | |||
|210 | | 210 | ||
| augmented 2nd | |||
| A2 | |||
| E# | |||
|augmented 2nd | | ''[[10/9]]'' | ||
|A2 | |||
|E# | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 8 | |||
|240 | | 240 | ||
| double-aug 2nd | |||
| AA2 | |||
| Ex | |||
|double-aug 2nd | | [[8/7]], [[15/13]] | ||
|AA2 | |||
|Ex | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 9 | |||
|270 | | 270 | ||
| double-dim 3rd | |||
| dd3 | |||
| Fbb | |||
|double-dim 3rd | | [[7/6]] | ||
|dd3 | |||
|Fbb | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 10 | |||
|300 | | 300 | ||
| diminished 3rd | |||
| d3 | |||
| Fb | |||
|diminished 3rd | | ''[[6/5]]'' | ||
|d3 | |||
|Fb | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 11 | |||
|330 | | 330 | ||
| minor 3rd | |||
| m3 | |||
| F | |||
|minor 3rd | | ''[[27/22]]'', [[39/32]] | ||
|m3 | |||
|F | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 12 | |||
|360 | | 360 | ||
| major 3rd | |||
| M3 | |||
| F# | |||
|major 3rd | | ''[[11/9]]'', [[16/13]] | ||
|M3 | |||
|F# | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 13 | |||
|390 | | 390 | ||
| augmented 3rd | |||
| A3 | |||
| Fx | |||
|augmented 3rd | | [[5/4]] | ||
|A3 | |||
|Fx | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 14 | |||
|420 | | 420 | ||
| double-aug 3rd, triple-dim 4th | |||
| AA3 | |||
| F#x, Gbbb | |||
|double-aug 3rd | | ''[[9/7]]'' | ||
|AA3 | |||
|F#x, Gbbb | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 15 | |||
|450 | | 450 | ||
| double-dim 4th | |||
| dd4 | |||
| Gbb | |||
|double-dim 4th | | [[13/10]] | ||
|dd4 | |||
|Gbb | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 16 | |||
|480 | | 480 | ||
| diminished 4th | |||
| d4 | |||
| Gb | |||
|diminished 4th | | ''[[27/20]]'' | ||
|d4 | |||
|Gb | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 17 | |||
|510 | | 510 | ||
| perfect 4th | |||
| P4 | |||
| G | |||
|perfect 4th | | [[4/3]] | ||
|P4 | |||
|G | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 18 | |||
|540 | | 540 | ||
| augmented 4th | |||
| A4 | |||
| G# | |||
|augmented 4th | | [[11/8]], [[15/11]], ''[[18/13]]'' | ||
|A4 | |||
|G# | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 19 | |||
|570 | | 570 | ||
| double-aug 4th | |||
| AA4 | |||
| G## | |||
|double-aug 4th | | [[7/5]] | ||
|AA4 | |||
|G## | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 20 | |||
|600 | | 600 | ||
| triple-aug 4th, | |||
|triple-aug 4th, | |||
triple-dim 5th | triple-dim 5th | ||
|AAA4, | | AAA4, | ||
ddd5 | ddd5 | ||
|Gx#, Abbb | | Gx#, Abbb | ||
| ''[[25/18]]'', ''[[36/25]]'' | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 21 | |||
|630 | | 630 | ||
| double-dim 5th | |||
| dd5 | |||
| Abb | |||
|double-dim 5th | | | ||
|dd5 | |||
|Abb | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 22 | |||
|660 | | 660 | ||
| diminished 5th | |||
| d5 | |||
| Ab | |||
|diminished 5th | | | ||
|d5 | |||
|Ab | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 23 | |||
|690 | | 690 | ||
| perfect 5th | |||
| P5 | |||
| A | |||
|perfect 5th | | | ||
|P5 | |||
|A | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 24 | |||
|720 | | 720 | ||
| augmented 5th | |||
| A5 | |||
| A# | |||
|augmented 5th | | | ||
|A5 | |||
|A# | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 25 | |||
|750 | | 750 | ||
| double-aug 5th | |||
| AA5 | |||
| Ax | |||
|double-aug 5th | | | ||
|AA5 | |||
|Ax | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 26 | |||
|780 | | 780 | ||
| double-dim 6th | |||
| dd6 | |||
| A#x, Bbbb | |||
|double-dim 6th | | | ||
|dd6 | |||
|A#x, Bbbb | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 27 | |||
|810 | | 810 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | | | diminished 6th | ||
| d6 | |||
| Bbb | |||
| style="text-align: center;" | | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 28 | |||
|840 | | 840 | ||
| minor 6th | |||
| m6 | |||
| Bb | |||
|minor 6th | | | ||
|m6 | |||
|Bb | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 29 | |||
|870 | | 870 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | | | major 6th | ||
| M6 | |||
| B | |||
| style="text-align: center;" | | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 30 | |||
|900 | | 900 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | | | augmented 6th | ||
| A6 | |||
| B# | |||
| style="text-align: center;" | | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 31 | |||
|930 | | 930 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | | | double-aug 6th | ||
| AA6 | |||
| Bx | |||
| style="text-align: center;" | | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 32 | |||
|960 | | 960 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | | | double-dim 7th | ||
| dd7 | |||
| Cbb | |||
| style="text-align: center;" | | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 33 | |||
|990 | | 990 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | | | diminished 7th | ||
| d7 | |||
| Cb | |||
| style="text-align: center;" | | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 34 | |||
|1020 | | 1020 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | | | minor 7th | ||
| m7 | |||
| C | |||
| style="text-align: center;" | | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 35 | |||
|1050 | | 1050 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | | | major 7th | ||
| M7 | |||
| C# | |||
| style="text-align: center;" | | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 36 | |||
|1080 | | 1080 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | | | augmented 7th | ||
| A7 | |||
| Cx | |||
| style="text-align: center;" | | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 37 | |||
|1110 | | 1110 | ||
| double-aug 7th, triple-dim 8ve | |||
| AA7 | |||
| C#x, Dbbb | |||
|double-aug 7th | | style="text-align: center;" | | ||
|AA7 | |||
|C#x, Dbbb | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 38 | |||
|1140 | | 1140 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | | | double-dim 8ve | ||
| dd8 | |||
| Dbb | |||
| style="text-align: center;" | | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 39 | |||
|1170 | | 1170 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | | | diminished 8ve | ||
| d8 | |||
| Db | |||
| style="text-align: center;" | | |||
|- | |- | ||
! 40 | |||
|1200 | | 1200 | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | | | perfect octave | ||
| P8 | |||
| D | |||
| style="text-align: center;" | | |||
|} | |} | ||
[[ | == Notation == | ||
[[Category: | === Sagittal notation === | ||
This notation uses the same sagittal sequence as EDOs [[30edo#Second-best fifth notation|30b]] and [[35edo#Sagittal notation|35]]. | |||
<imagemap> | |||
File:40-EDO_Sagittal.svg | |||
desc none | |||
rect 80 0 300 50 [[Sagittal_notation]] | |||
rect 300 0 647 80 [https://sagittal.org#periodic-table Periodic table of EDOs with sagittal notation] | |||
rect 20 80 300 106 [[Fractional_3-limit_notation#Bad-fifths_limma-fraction_notation | limma-fraction notation]] | |||
default [[File:40-EDO_Sagittal.svg]] | |||
</imagemap> | |||
== Octave stretch or compression == | |||
'''127ed9''' optimises 40edo for [[dual-fifth]] usage by distributing error evenly between its two fifths. 127ed9 is just 40edo with [[octave shrinking|octaves compressed]] by 1.9{{c}}. | |||
{{harmonics in equal|127|9|1|intervals=integer|collapsed=yes}} | |||
{{harmonics in equal|40|2|1|intervals=integer|collapsed=yes}} | |||
== Scales == | |||
* Amulet{{idiosyncratic}}, (approximated from [[magic]] in [[25edo]]): 3 2 3 3 2 3 5 3 3 2 3 5 3 | |||
* [[Equipentatonic]]: 8 8 8 8 8 | |||
* Evacuated planet{{idiosyncratic}} (approximated from [[66afdo|66]][[afdo]]): 4 13 6 12 5 | |||
* Approximations of [[gamelan]] scales: | |||
** 5-tone pelog: 4 5 14 3 14 | |||
** 7-tone pelog: 4 5 8 6 3 10 4 | |||
** 5-tone slendro: 8 8 8 8 8 | |||
* 12-tone 4&10edo scale: 4 4 2 2 4 4 4 4 2 2 4 4 | |||
* 12-tone 5&8edo scale: 5 3 2 5 1 4 4 1 5 2 3 5 | |||
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" | |||
|+Approximated from [[96edo]] | |||
|''Contains [[Template:Idiosyncratic|idiosyncratic terms]].'' | |||
* Flattened major: 7 6 4 6 7 7 3 | |||
* Sharpened minor: 7 3 7 6 4 7 6 | |||
* Sharpened harmonic minor: 7 3 7 7 3 11 2 | |||
* Flattened major pentatonic: 6 7 10 7 10 | |||
* Sharpened minor pentatonic: 10 7 6 11 6 | |||
* Evened minor hexatonic: 6 4 7 6 10 7 | |||
* Roughened augmented: 11 3 10 3 10 3 | |||
* Evened dominant pentatonic: 7 7 9 10 7 | |||
* Sharpened Dorian: 7 3 7 7 7 3 6 | |||
* Flattened Ionian pentatonic: 13 3 7 13 4 | |||
* Sharpened Dorian harmonic: 7 3 10 4 7 3 6 | |||
* Evened Mixolydian pentatonic: 13 4 6 10 7 | |||
* Evened Phrygian dominant: 4 9 4 6 4 6 7 | |||
* Evened Phrygian dominant hexatonic: 3 10 4 6 10 7 | |||
* Sharpened Phrygian pentatonic: 4 7 13 3 13 | |||
* Sharpened minor harmonic pentatonic I: 7 3 14 13 3 | |||
* Evened hirajoshi: 7 4 12 4 13 | |||
* Sharpened hirajoshi: 7 4 13 4 12 | |||
* Extra-sharp hirajoshi: 8 3 13 4 12 | |||
* Evened akebono I: 6 5 12 6 11 | |||
* Sharpened akebono I: 7 3 14 6 10 | |||
* Extra-sharp akebono I: 7 4 13 7 9 | |||
* Evened Javanese pentachordal: 4 7 9 4 16 | |||
* Moonbeam: 7 4 12 14 3 | |||
* Palace (type of [[equiheptatonic]]): 5 6 6 6 6 6 5 | |||
* Underpass: 11 12 8 3 6 | |||
|} | |||
== Instruments == | |||
* [[Lumatone mapping for 40edo]] | |||
== Music == | |||
=== Modern Renderings === | |||
; [https://www.nts.live/artists/83437-hi-posi Hi-Posi] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YY8rZ6ZcoXc ''Boku De Artitai''] (1994) – microtonal cover in 40edo by [[Bryan Deister]] (2026) | |||
=== 21st century === | |||
; [[Bryan Deister]] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/x5cnT4Bw1ZQ ''Balance Beam''] (2026) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fREuVtq875U ''40edo improv''] (2026) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JriWAth4vBY ''40edo idea''] (2026) | |||
; [[Claudi Meneghin]] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMZu6ZE6A3g ''Happy Birthday Canon'', 6-in-1 Canon in 40edo] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu854Ld_uLE ''Canon on Twinkle Twinkle Little Star'', for Baroque Oboe & Viola] (2023) – ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7vDHwsboLE for Organ]) | |||
; [[Stephen Weigel]] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLmaQK10aYM ''Ĥ̶̩̠̐Ä̶̝͙́̓Ȑ̸̢͒K̷̥̩͌͑!̵̙͆̄ THE BIBLICALLY ACCURATE ANGELS SING!''] (2025; mostly in 42edo, but also some in 40edo) | |||
** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE77rwCsGHw live performance of the above in Munich, Germany] (2026) | |||
[[Category:Listen]] | |||
[[Category:Todo:add rank 2 temperaments table]] | |||