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The patent val also tempers out [[2048/2025]] in the 5-limit, and [[50/49]] with [[64/63]] in the [[7-limit]], which means it [[support]]s [[pajara]], with a very sharp fifth of 712.5 cents which could be experimented with by those with a penchant for fifths even sharper than the fifth of [[27edo]]; this fifth is in fact very close to the [[minimax tuning]] of the pajara extension [[Diaschismic family #Pajaro|pajaro]], using the 32f val. | The patent val also tempers out [[2048/2025]] in the 5-limit, and [[50/49]] with [[64/63]] in the [[7-limit]], which means it [[support]]s [[pajara]], with a very sharp fifth of 712.5 cents which could be experimented with by those with a penchant for fifths even sharper than the fifth of [[27edo]]; this fifth is in fact very close to the [[minimax tuning]] of the pajara extension [[Diaschismic family #Pajaro|pajaro]], using the 32f val. | ||
The patent fifth of 32edo can be used to generate a very unequal [[archy]] (specifically [[oceanfront]]) [[5L 2s|diatonic scale]], with a [[chromatic semitone]] of 5 steps and a [[diatonic semitone]] of only 1. The diatonic [[major third]] (which can sound like both a major third and a flat fourth depending on context) is an interseptimal interval of 450{{c}}, approximating [[9/7]] and [[13/10]], and the minor third is 262.5{{c}}, approximating [[7/6]]. In the 11-limit 32edo provides the [[optimal patent val]] for [[kangaroo]] temperament, tempering out [[55/54]], 64/63, and [[245/242]], whereas the 32c val is equally good for [[progress]]. Both temperaments are generated by a flat [[16/11]] such that three of them reduce to [[3/2]] and six of them reduce to [[8/7]]. The 15-note scale could potentially be used as a [[detempering]] of [[15edo]]. | The patent fifth of 32edo can be used to generate a very unequal [[archy]] (specifically [[oceanfront]]) [[5L 2s|diatonic scale]], with a [[chromatic semitone]] of 5 steps and a [[diatonic semitone]] of only 1. The diatonic [[major third]] (which can sound like both a major third and a flat fourth depending on context) is an interseptimal interval of 450{{c}}, approximating [[9/7]] and [[13/10]], and the minor third is 262.5{{c}}, approximating [[7/6]] and [[15/13]]. In the 11-limit 32edo provides the [[optimal patent val]] for [[kangaroo]] temperament, tempering out [[55/54]], 64/63, and [[245/242]], whereas the 32c val is equally good for [[progress]]. Both temperaments are generated by a flat [[16/11]] such that three of them reduce to [[3/2]] and six of them reduce to [[8/7]]. The 15-note scale could potentially be used as a [[detempering]] of [[15edo]]. | ||
=== Subsets and supersets === | === Subsets and supersets === | ||
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| up unison, minor 2nd | | up unison, minor 2nd | ||
| ^D, Eb | | ^D, Eb | ||
| ''[[25/24]]'', [[45/44]], [[49/48 | | ''[[25/24]]'', [[45/44]], [[49/48]] | ||
| 46/45, 52/51, 51/50 | | 46/45, 52/51, 51/50 | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| upminor 2nd | | upminor 2nd | ||
| ^Eb | | ^Eb | ||
| [[22/21]], [[26/25]], ''[[33/32]]'' | | [[22/21]], [[26/25]], ''[[33/32]]'', ''[[36/35]]'', ''[[81/80]]'' | ||
| 24/23, 23/22 | | 24/23, 23/22 | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| dupminor 2nd | | dupminor 2nd | ||
| ^^Eb | | ^^Eb | ||
| [[15/14]], [[16/15]] | | ''[[13/12]]'', [[15/14]], [[16/15]] | ||
| 49/46 | | 49/46 | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| dudmajor 2nd | | dudmajor 2nd | ||
| vvE | | vvE | ||
| [[12/11]] | | ''[[10/9]]'', [[12/11]], ''[[14/13]]'', [[35/32]] | ||
| 25/23 | | 25/23 | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| aug 1sn, downmajor 2nd | | aug 1sn, downmajor 2nd | ||
| D#, vE | | D#, vE | ||
| [[ | | ''[[11/10]]'' | ||
| 19/17 | | 19/17 | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| minor 3rd | | minor 3rd | ||
| F | | F | ||
| [[7/6]], [[15/13]] | | [[7/6]], ''[[13/11]]'', [[15/13]] | ||
| 57/49 | | 57/49 | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| major 3rd | | major 3rd | ||
| F# | | F# | ||
| [[9/7]], [[13/10]] | | [[9/7]], [[13/10]], ''[[32/25]]'', [[64/49]] | ||
| 22/17, 57/44 | | 22/17, 57/44 | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| perfect 4th | | perfect 4th | ||
| G | | G | ||
| [[4/3]], [[ | | [[4/3]], [[21/16]] | ||
| 45/34, 85/64 | | 45/34, 85/64 | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| up 4th | | up 4th | ||
| ^G | | ^G | ||
| | | [[15/11]] | ||
| 19/14, 23/17 | | 19/14, 23/17 | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| dup 4th, updim 5th | | dup 4th, updim 5th | ||
| ^^G, ^Ab | | ^^G, ^Ab | ||
| | | [[11/8]], [[48/35]], ''[[27/20]]'' | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 16 | | 16 | ||
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| dudaug 4th, dupdim 5th | | dudaug 4th, dupdim 5th | ||
| vvG#, ^^Ab | | vvG#, ^^Ab | ||
| | | [[7/5]], [[10/7]], [[45/32]], [[64/45]] | ||
| 17/12, 12/17 | | 17/12, 12/17 | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| downaug 4th, dud 5th | | downaug 4th, dud 5th | ||
| vG#, vvA | | vG#, vvA | ||
| | | [[16/11]], [[35/24]], ''[[40/27]]'' | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| down 5th | | down 5th | ||
| vA | | vA | ||
| | | [[22/15]] | ||
| 28/19, 34/23 | | 28/19, 34/23 | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| perfect 5th | | perfect 5th | ||
| A | | A | ||
| | | [[3/2]], [[32/21]] | ||
| 68/45, 128/85 | | 68/45, 128/85 | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| minor 6th | | minor 6th | ||
| Bb | | Bb | ||
| | | [[14/9]], [[20/13]], ''[[25/16]]'', [[49/32]] | ||
| 17/11, 88/57 | | 17/11, 88/57 | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| upminor 6th | | upminor 6th | ||
| ^Bb | | ^Bb | ||
| | | [[11/7]] | ||
| 30/19 | | 30/19 | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| dupminor 6th | | dupminor 6th | ||
| ^^Bb | | ^^Bb | ||
| | | [[8/5]], [[13/8]], [[44/27]] | ||
| 29/18 | | 29/18 | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| dudmajor 6th | | dudmajor 6th | ||
| vvB | | vvB | ||
| | | ''[[5/3]]'', [[18/11]], [[64/39]] | ||
| 28/17, 23/14 | | 28/17, 23/14 | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| downmajor 6th | | downmajor 6th | ||
| vB | | vB | ||
| | | [[56/33]] | ||
| 32/19 | | 32/19 | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| major 6th | | major 6th | ||
| B | | B | ||
| | | [[12/7]], ''[[22/13]]'', [[26/15]] | ||
| 98/57 | | 98/57 | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| minor 7th | | minor 7th | ||
| C | | C | ||
| | | [[7/4]], ''[[16/9]]'' | ||
| 100/57 | | 100/57 | ||
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| upminor 7th | | upminor 7th | ||
| ^C | | ^C | ||
| | | [[20/11]] | ||
| 34/19 | | 34/19 | ||
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| dupminor 7th | | dupminor 7th | ||
| ^^C | | ^^C | ||
| | | ''[[9/5]]'', [[11/6]], ''[[13/7]]'', [[64/35]] | ||
| 46/25 | | 46/25 | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| dudmajor 7th | | dudmajor 7th | ||
| vvC# | | vvC# | ||
| | | [[15/8]], ''[[24/13]]'', [[28/15]] | ||
| 92/49 | | 92/49 | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| downmajor 7th | | downmajor 7th | ||
| vC# | | vC# | ||
| | | [[21/11]], [[25/13]], ''[[64/33]]'', ''[[35/18]]'', ''[[160/81]]'' | ||
| 23/12, 44/23 | | 23/12, 44/23 | ||
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| major 7th, down 8ve | | major 7th, down 8ve | ||
| C#, vD | | C#, vD | ||
| | | ''[[48/25]]'', [[88/45]], [[96/49]] | ||
| 45/23, 51/26, 100/51 | | 45/23, 51/26, 100/51 | ||
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| 8ve | | 8ve | ||
| D | | D | ||
| | | [[2/1]] | ||
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|} | |} | ||
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* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI-lMuAYws8 ''Revelation''] (2026) | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI-lMuAYws8 ''Revelation''] (2026) | ||
== Notes == | |||
<references group="note"/> | |||
[[Category:Listen]] | [[Category:Listen]] | ||
[[Category:Sixix]] | [[Category:Sixix]] | ||
{{Todo|add scales list}} | {{Todo|add scales list}} | ||