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== Mavila (Superdiatonic) + Baldy (Amsochromic) Lumatone mappings == | |||
=== 23edo (demonstrated to work) === | |||
Still using the [[23edo]] flat fifth ~[[3/2]] for [[mavila]] temperament, an alternative to the antidiatonic mapping is the superdiatonic mapping, having a [[7L 2s]] scale (3:1 step ratio), with the generator 13\23 being reached by moving four keys right plus one key down-right. This reduces the range from just under five octaves to about 3½ octaves, although it keeps them nearly level — rising gently enough to support division into multiple manuals. It also supports a [[6L 5s]] scale (3:1 step ratio) if the mildly sharp directly-approximated Pythagorean whole tone ~[[9/8]] is used as a generator instead, although this causes the octaves to slope down enough to prevent vertical division into two contiguous manuals; this generator (4\23) is reached by moving one key right plus one key down-right, which is easier than reaching the mavila generator. This mapping is demonstrated on the left Lumatone in {{W|David Wise}}'s [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joi8vyChSy4&list=WL&index=266 ''Aquatic Ambience''] (1993 via {{W|Donkey Kong Country}} (1994) – microtonal cover in 23edo by [[Stephen Weigel]] (right) and [[Vito Sicurella]] (left) on Lumatones (2026, from UnTwelve 2025); the color scheme is for the superdiatonic scale, but different between the left and right halves of the layout to represent division into two horizontal zones for different soft synthesizers. This layout is used on the left Lumatone; for the right Lumatone layout, see Oolong (Smitonic) below. | |||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=23|start=0|xstep=3|ystep=-2}} | |||
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== Oolong (Smitonic) Lumatone mappings == | |||
=== 23edo (demonstrated to work) === | |||
An alternative for [[23edo]] to using either (highly inaccurate) fifth as a generator is stacking the much more accurate (only slightly flat) classic minor third ~[[6/5]], as in [[oolong]] temperament, having a [[4L 3s]] scale (5:1 step ratio); the generator 6\23 is reached by moving one key right plus one key down-right. This results in a moderate downwards slope of the octaves, but the range is 5¾ octaves, still with a generous allocation of repeated notes to mitigate vertical wraparounds. This mapping is demonstrated on the right Lumatone in {{W|David Wise}}'s [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joi8vyChSy4&list=WL&index=266 ''Aquatic Ambience''] (1993 via {{W|Donkey Kong Country}} (1994) – microtonal cover in 23edo by [[Stephen Weigel]] (right) and [[Vito Sicurella]] (left) on Lumatones (2026, from UnTwelve 2025). This layout is used on the right Lumatone; for the left Lumatone layout, see Mavila (Superdiatonic) + Baldy (Amsochromic) above. | |||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=23|start=0|xstep=5|ystep=-4}} | |||
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== Amavil Lumatone mappings == | |||
=== 43edo (demonstrated to work) === | |||
It is possible to use a [[7L 2s]] (5:4 step ratio) superdiatonic mapping with [[43edo]], as in [[mavila]]. Mavila itself is not a high-accuracy tuning, but it has some relatives that are high-accuracy — in this case, [[amavil]], of the [[mabila family]]. As with mavila, it uses a sub-fifth as its generator, in this case 24\43; however, unlike actual mavila, the generator is explicitly defined as something other than the fifth, which is instead left at the most accurate mapping 43edo has to offer for ~[[3/2]] (at 25\43). Instead, the sub-fifth is mapped as a mildly flat undecimal diminished fifth ~[[22/15]]. After octave-reduction, three of them make a somewhat flat classic minor sixth ~[[8/5]]; four of them make a subminor third that functions as ~[[7/6]] (sharp), ~[[13/11]] (flat), and ~[[20/17]] (diatismic minor third, close to just, only slightly sharp); six of them make a near-just pentacircle major third ~[[14/11]]; seven of them make a near-just classic major seventh ~[[15/8]]; eight of them make a moderately flat undecimal major fourth ~[[11/8]]; and ten of them make the moderately flat perfect fifth ~[[3/2]]. The range is about 3¾ octaves, which slope mildly upwards, with a generous allotment of repeated notes to mitigate vertical wraparounds. | |||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=43|start=34|xstep=5|ystep=-1}} | |||
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== Ammonite + Gariberttet + Porcupinefish Lumatone mappings == | == Ammonite + Gariberttet + Porcupinefish Lumatone mappings == | ||
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==== Forward chroma (demonstrated to work) ==== | ==== Forward chroma (demonstrated to work) ==== | ||
The range is a bit under 7½ octaves, which slope down mildly, with no repeated notes and no missed notes. | The range is a bit under 7½ octaves, which slope down mildly, with no repeated notes and no missed notes. [[Bryan Deister]] has used this mapping in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mVRbcB2hoBU ''37edo prelude''] (2026). | ||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=37|start=0|xstep=9|ystep=-4}} | {{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=37|start=0|xstep=9|ystep=-4}} | ||
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== Augmented (August) Lumatone mappings == | |||
=== 21edo (demonstrated to work) === | |||
It is possible to use [[21edo]] for some types of blues music, taking advantage of its highly accurate [[7/1|7th harmonic]], as demonstrated by [[Bryan Deister]] in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S4C-m_Dcno ''21edo improv''] (2026). The mapping for this uses a sharp septimal minor third ~[[7/6]] as a generator with the octave divided in to three parts as a sharp classic major third ~[[5/4]], making this an [[augmented_(temperament)|augmented temperament]] mapping of the flat fifth ([[august]]) variety, with scales [[3L 3s]] proceeding right and down-right and [[8L 1s (4/1-equivalent)]] proceeding right, with both scales having a 5:2 step ratio. (The ⅓-octave complement of ~[[7/6]] is a mildly-flat septimal diatonic semitone ~[[15/14]], which is one key down-right, a convenient mapping for a diatonic semitone.) The range is about 6¾ octaves, and the octaves slope down considerably (incurring vertical wraparounds mitigated by repeated notes), while the double octaves slope upwards mildly. | |||
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== Augmented (Triforce) + Bohpier Lumatone mappings == | == Augmented (Triforce) + Bohpier Lumatone mappings == | ||
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== Aurora + Father Lumatone mappings == | == Aurora + Father + Variant Orwell Lumatone mappings == | ||
=== 13edo (demonstrated to work) === | === 13edo (demonstrated to work) === | ||
[[Bryan Deister]] has demonstrated a [[3L 2s]] (3:2 step ratio) [[ | [[Bryan Deister]] has demonstrated a [[3L 2s]] (3:2 step ratio) [[aurora]]/[[father]] mapping for [[13edo]], in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YiIr9l0M67w ''Holding Back My Endless Sigh - 13edo''] (2026). The generator 8\13 (three keys right and one key down-right from the root note) can be taken as a very sharp fifth (~[[3/2]], for father temperament) or a moderately sharp septimal superfifth (~[[32/21]], for aurora temperament). Even more simply, this mapping also functions for a [[4L 5s]] (2:1 step ratio) scale for a variant of [[Orwell]] temperament, with the one key right generator being 3\13, which functions as (among other things) a rather sharp septimal minor third ~[[7/6]] (requires the 13d val) or a flat tridecimal minor third ~[[13/11]], of which two make a slightly sharp undecimal major fourth ~[[11/8]]; three of them make a sharp classic minor sixth ~[[8/5]]; four of them make a very flat classic major seventh ~[[15/8]]; and after octave-reduction, seven of them make the super-sharp fifth ~[[3/2]] (better constituted as a near-just vicesimotertial inframinor sixth ~[[23/15]], or a slightly sharp septendecimal superfifth ~[[26/17]], or a moderately sharp septimal superfifth ~32/21 as in aurora above); and eight of them make a very sharp septimal minor seventh ~[[7/4]] (if using the 13d val) or a near-just classic minor seventh ~[[9/5]] (requires constitution of the 9 as 3♯ × 3♭). The range is over seven octaves, with notes repeated multiple times, but unfortunately the downwards slope of the octaves, although mild, would make mapping to multiple manuals tricky. | ||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=13|start=0|xstep=3|ystep=-1}} | {{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=13|start=0|xstep=3|ystep=-1}} | ||
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== Bidia + Diminished + Charismic + Semitonismic Lumatone mappings == | == Bidia + Diminished + Charismic + Semitonismic Lumatone mappings == | ||
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=== 46edo (demonstrated to work) === | === 46edo (demonstrated to work) === | ||
[[Bryan Deister]] has demonstrated a [[6L 2s]] (6:5 step ratio) [[Sensipent_family#Bison|Bison]] mapping for [[46edo]] in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/K-Gu_YkjYS4 ''46edo improv''] (2025), with Bison being the intersection of [[Porwell temperaments|Porwell]] with [[Sensi]]. The (rightward) generator for this is 6\46, which is a near-just septimal neutral second ~[[35/32]], and two of them yield a near-just (barely flat) classic major third ~[[6/5]] (the Porwell comma [[6144/6125]] is tempered out). The range is just over four octaves with no missing notes and some repeats to mitigate vertical wraparounds, and the octaves are almost level. | [[Bryan Deister]] has demonstrated a [[6L 2s]] (6:5 step ratio) [[Sensipent_family#Bison|Bison]] mapping for [[46edo]] in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/K-Gu_YkjYS4 ''46edo improv''] (2025-10-25), with Bison being the intersection of [[Porwell temperaments|Porwell]] with [[Sensi]]. The (rightward) generator for this is 6\46, which is a near-just septimal neutral second ~[[35/32]], and two of them yield a near-just (barely flat) classic major third ~[[6/5]] (the Porwell comma [[6144/6125]] is tempered out). The range is just over four octaves with no missing notes and some repeats to mitigate vertical wraparounds, and the octaves are almost level. | ||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=46|start=38|xstep=6|ystep=-1}} | {{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=46|start=38|xstep=6|ystep=-1}} | ||
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== Bison + Hemikleismic + Divination + Hocus Lumatone mappings == | == Bison + Hemikleismic + Divination + Hocus Lumatone mappings == | ||
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== Blackwood + Decimal/Lemba Lumatone mappings == | |||
=== 10edo (demonstrated to work) === | |||
Since [[10edo]] is a tuning of [[blackwood]], a blackwood mapping can work (although it is not the most efficient in terms of note usage), as demonstrated in [https://bee-swarm-simulator.fandom.com/wiki/Onett_(Developer) Onett]'s [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EZCCjsjgCss ''Stick Bug''] (2019?) – microtonal cover in 10edo by [[Bryan Deister]] (2026). The scale is [[4L 2s]] with a 2:1 step ratio, as in [[decimal]] and [[lemba]] temperaments. The octaves slope up with the rows (as expected for Blackwood) or slightly downwards with the scale, and the range is just under 6 octaves, with the potential for division into multiple manuals (although the upper and lower ones will necessarily be partial or wedge-shaped, depending upon details of the division). | |||
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== Blackwood + Diminished Lumatone mappings == | == Blackwood + Diminished Lumatone mappings == | ||
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== | == Blackwood + Whitewood Lumatone mappings == | ||
=== | === 35edo (demonstrated to work) === | ||
[[ | A flipped version of the [[5L 5s]] (5:2 step ratio) [[blackwood]] + [[whitewood]] mapping is possible. The octaves slope upwards with the rows (as expected for blackwood mappings), and the range is a bit under 5½ octaves with no missed notes and some repeated notes to mitigate vertical wraparounds. [[Bryan Deister]] has used this mapping in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8doWEgXMCY ''35edo improv''] (2026). | ||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n= | {{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=35|start=3|xstep=7|ystep=-5}} | ||
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== Cantonismic Lumatone mappings == | == Cantonismic Lumatone mappings == | ||
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== Compton-related rank 3 temperament Lumatone mappings == | |||
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== Diaschismic + Charismic + Semitonismic Lumatone mappings == | == Diaschismic + Charismic + Semitonismic Lumatone mappings == | ||
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== Devichromic Lumatone mappings == | == Devichromic Lumatone mappings == | ||
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== Hyperkleismic Lumatone mappings == | |||
=== 11edo (demonstrated to work) === | |||
[[Bryan Deister]] has used a [[3L 1s]] (3:2 step ratio) mapping for an unequal derivative of [[11edo]] that stacks sharp (by varying degrees) classic minor thirds to generate the scale (as in [[hyperkleismic]] temperament), in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/K2QVvaRUXIQ ''<nowiki>[short clip] 11 Tone March</nowiki>''] (2023). In principle, this would also work for vanilla 11edo. (Due to the very large errors that 11edo has for most of its primes, getting the classic major thirds to map correctly as ~[[6/5]] requires use of the 2.9.15 subgroup or an extended version thereof, to constitute the minor thirds initially as 18/15.) The range is eight octaves, which slope very slightly upwards and have a generous number of repeated notes, thereby leaving open the possibility of splitting this layout into multiple manuals with only mild lopsidedness. | |||
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== Magic (Divination/Soothsaying) related Lumatone mappings == | == Magic (Divination/Soothsaying) related Lumatone mappings == | ||
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=== Rotated Meantone Lumatone mappings === | |||
==== 74edo (demonstrated to work) ==== | |||
One option for dealing with the large gamut of [[74edo]] on a standard-sized Lumatone is to flip and rotate the diatonic mapping, as demonstrated by [[Bryan Deister]] in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vi-KljzPkGs ''74edo improv''] (2026). The scale is still [[5L 2s]] with a 12:7 step ratio, but now the whole tones proceed down-right while the diatonic semitones proceed right. Each octave is still missing some notes, but due to the octave slope, they are different missing notes in each octave (other than the octaves chopped off by the upper left and lower right corners); the range is three mostly-complete octaves plus a bass octave of full compass but severely truncated gamut, plus a partial treble octave. | |||
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==== 88edo (demonstrated to work) ==== | |||
Since [[88edo]] is too large for the normal Standard Lumatone Mapping for Pythagorean to get all the notes, while the [[7L 2s]] mapping may cause excessive stretching of the fingers for some people, another possibility is to rotate the Lumatone to make the [[5L 2s]] scale (14:9 step ratio) run down-right and down, as demonstrated in {{W|Nobuo Uematsu}}'s [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/d3v6ji8EqQ8 ''The Extreme''] from ''{{W|Final Fantasy VIII}}'' (1999) – microtonal cover in 88edo by [[Bryan Deister]] (2026). This layout yields just under 2⅛ complete octaves with no missing notes and very few repeated note, although the upper left and lower right corners both have a large number of notes in partial octaves below and above these, due to the lopsidedness of the mapping; if the Lumatone is not rotated, the octaves slope down, but if the Lumatone is rotated 90° left as shown in the video, then the octaves proceed upward with a rightward slant. | |||
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=== Meantone-related rank-3 Lumatone mappings === | === Meantone-related rank-3 Lumatone mappings === | ||
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== Niner + Diminished Lumatone mappings == | |||
=== 36edo (demonstrated to work) === | |||
It is possible to use the [[blackwood]] + [[whitewood]] mappings of [[35edo]] as inspiration for mapping [[36edo]] as a lattice, using its factors of closest size to those of 35edo, which are 4 and 9, as in [[niner]] + [[Diminished_(temperament)|diminished]] temperaments, with a [[4L 4s]] scale of step ratio 5:4 running right and down. Similarly to blackwood and whitewood, the octaves slope upwards with the rows, but even so the mapping works to give 5 octaves with some repeated notes to mitigate vertical wraparounds, with no missed notes except for one missed note 35 in the top otherwise contiguous octave. [[Bryan Deister]] has used this mapping in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KCtEYSkEK8U ''36edo improv''] (2026). | |||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=36|start=2|xstep=4|ystep=5}} | |||
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== Orwell mappings == | == Orwell mappings == | ||
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=== 52edo (demonstrated to work) === | |||
[[52edo]] is a valid [[porcupine]] tuning (with scale [[1L 6s]] having a 10:7 step ratio), as [[Bryan Deister]] demonstrates in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YMjz4thpjxQ ''52edo jam''] (2026). The range with no missed notes is 4½ octaves, which slope upwards moderately. | |||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=52|start=13|xstep=7|ystep=3}} | |||
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== Porcupine + Augmented (Triforce) Lumatone mappings == | == Porcupine + Augmented (Triforce) Lumatone mappings == | ||
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== | == Skwares (Compressed, Fibotonic) Lumatone mappings == | ||
=== 20edo (demonstrated to work) === | |||
[[Bryan Deister]] has used a compressed [[Skwares]]) [[2L 1s]] (7:6 step ratio) mapping for [[20edo]], as demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFUTeFs7Ycg ''20edo groove''] (2025). In the version of Skwares used for this, instead of substantially sharpening the undecimal major third ~[[14/11]] (or even a septimal major third ~[[9/7]]) to get a diatonic fourth ~[[4/3]] (by stacking and octave-reducing four generators), the undecimal major third (7\20) is near-just, and the fourth is very flat at 480{{c}} (corresponding to the Blackwood sharp fifth at 720{{c}}). Octaves are nearly level (sloping down very gradually), and the range is a bit over 11 octaves, which suggests dividing the keyboard into zones for different instruments. | |||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=20|start=3|xstep=7|ystep=-1}} | |||
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== Squirrel Lumatone mappings == | |||
=== | === 65edo (demonstrated to work) === | ||
[[ | It is possible to map [[65edo]] with [[squirrel]] temperament, using as a generator the near-just undecimal submajor second ~[[11/10]], reminiscent of [[tetracot]] but producing a a [[1L 6s]] scale (11:9 step ratio) instead of [[6L 1s]]. Three of these generators make the near-just perfect fourth ~[[4/3]]; six of them make the near-just Pythagorean.minor seventh ~[[16/9]]; nine of them (with octave reduction) make the slightly flat otonal (undevesimal) minor third ~[[19/16]]; and twenty-one of them (with more octave reduction) make the near-just classic major seventh ~[[15/8]]. Unfortunately, this mapping does not cover all of the notes in the range of over 4½ octaves; even so, [[Bryan Deister]] has used this mapping in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OtbEDFhjNkc ''65edo prelude''] (2026). | ||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n= | {{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=65|start=26|xstep=9|ystep=2}} | ||
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== Superlimmal Lumatone mappings == | == Superlimmal Lumatone mappings == | ||
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== Tetracot (Compressed, Reverse-Chroma) Lumatone mappings == | |||
=== 75edo (demonstrated to work) === | |||
[[Bryan Deister]] has demonstrated a compressed [[1L 5s mapping of [[75edo]] in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-G2KkYfKLs&list=WL&index=343&pp=gAQBiAQB8AUB ''microtonal improvisation in 75edo''] (2025-06-22). This combines the temperament of [[Tetracot]] with the idea of the compressed [[Lumatone mapping for Porcupine]], by reversing the chroma. (This also contains the Tetracot [[6L 1s]] scale, but playing that scale in this layout requires backtracking.) This expands the overall range to more than five octaves, but too much so for anything so large as 75edo, thereby causing missed notes (although it demonstrates how such a mapping could shine for a smaller EDO or a hypothetical XL-sized Lumatone that has room for all of the notes). | |||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=75|start=17|xstep=11|ystep=9}} | |||
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== Tsaharuk (Schismatic) Lumatone mappings == | == Tsaharuk (Schismatic) Lumatone mappings == | ||
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== Undevicesimal Quasitonemic + Semitonismic + Archagallismic Lumatone mappings == | |||
=== 90edo (demonstrated to work) === | |||
[[Bryan Deister]] has demonstrated a [[6L 6s]] (8:7 step ratio) [[6th-octave_temperaments|6th-octave temperament]] mapping for [[90edo]], in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LdxUD1taOqI ''<nowiki>Fantasy in 90edo [short clip]</nowiki>''] (2026). This temperament is similar to [[6th-octave_temperaments#Spoob|spoob]], but spoob itself (which equates the werckismic tone ~[[55/49]] to 1/6 of an octave) will not actually work in the [[patent val]] of 90edo, which maps 55/49 inconsistently. ("Undevicesimal quasitonemic" is a placeholder name, pending approval of an official name for this 6th-octave temperament.) Instead, it equates the near-just quasi-tempered whole tone ~[[64/57]] (one key right, as 15\90) to 1/6 of an octave — the [[undevicesimal quasitonema]] (34359738368/34296447249, name proposed by [[User:Xenllium|Xenllium]]) is tempered out. The down-right generator 8\90 is a near-just large septendecimal semitone ~[[17/16]]; two of them (passing a 6th-octave boundary) make a sharp (and inconsistently-mapped) Pythagorean whole tone ~[[9/8]] (the semitonisma [[289/288]] is tempered out); three of them make a somewhat sharp classic minor third ~[[6/5]] (the archagallisma [[24576/24565]] is tempered out). The range is slightly short of five octaves (which slope upwards with the rows), with many missing notes in each octave, but this is an interesting mapping nonetheless, and could shine on a hypothetical XL-sized Lumatone having at least 465 keys in a span of five octaves. | |||
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=90|start=86|xstep=15|ystep=-7}} | |||
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== Valentine Lumatone mappings == | == Valentine Lumatone mappings == | ||