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== Archipelago + Catalan Lumatone mappings ==
== Archipelago + Catalan Lumatone mappings ==


=== 49edo (demonstrated to work) ===
=== 49edo (2 mappings demonstrated to work) ===


The most efficient mapping for [[49edo]], having a range of 5¼ octaves (which slope down moderately) with no missed notes and no repeated notes, is [[Bryan Deister]]'s [[4L 3s]] (10:3 step ratio) mapping that functions for both a rank-2 or rank-3 [[archipelago]]-related temperament and [[catalan]] temperament, demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/34w7euOF-Ss ''49edo improv''] (2026). The rank-2 archipelago-related temperament (which is not currently on the archipelago page) uses one key right (10\49) as a slightly sharp tridecimal semifourth ~[[15/13]] (in the 49f val) for its generator; two of them make the fairly flat fourth ~[[4/3]]; four of them make the sharp septimal minor seventh ~[[7/4]]; six of them (after octave reduction) make a slightly sharp septimal minor third ~[[7/6]]; thirteen of them (after more octave reduction) make a near-just undecimal minor sixth ~[[11/7]]; and fourteen of them make a sharp classic minor seventh ~[[9/5]]. Although this is a respectable list of intervals, the unmodified rank-2 version of the temperament does not make a very good [[MOS]] scale — instead it makes for scales in which the small interval is only 1\49. Therefore, for facility in making scales, including the aforementioned 4L 3s, a second generator is needed (thus elevating this to a rank-3 temperament that tempers out [[364/363]], [[540/539]], and [[847/845]]); that generator uses one key down-right (3\49) as the slightly sharp classic chromatic semitone ~[[25/24]], which 49edo uses here more like a diatonic semitone (although the actual 49edo diatonic semitone is only 2\49). Catalan uses one key right plus one key down-right (13\49) as a slightly sharp classic minor third for its generator; two of them make a very flat Axirabian paraminor fifth ~[[16/11]]; four of them (after octave reduction) make a slightly sharp classic chromatic semitone ~[[25/24]]; five of them make a mildly sharp classic major third ~[[5/4]]; six of them make a sharp fifth ~[[3/2]]; seven of them make a sharp classic minor seventh ~[[9/5]]; eight of them (after more octave-reduction) make a mildly flat undecimal neutral second ~[[12/11]]; and ten of them make a near-just undecimal minor sixth ~[[11/7]]. Catalan does not need a second generator to produce usable MOS scales, including the aforementioned 4L 3s.
The most efficient mapping for [[49edo]], having a range of 5¼ octaves (which slope down moderately) with no missed notes and no repeated notes, is [[Bryan Deister]]'s [[4L 3s]] (10:3 step ratio) mapping that functions for both a rank-2 or rank-3 [[archipelago]]-related temperament and [[catalan]] temperament, demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/34w7euOF-Ss ''49edo improv''] (2026). The rank-2 archipelago-related temperament (which is not currently on the archipelago page) uses one key right (10\49) as a slightly sharp tridecimal semifourth ~[[15/13]] (in the 49f val) for its generator; two of them make the fairly flat fourth ~[[4/3]]; four of them make the sharp septimal minor seventh ~[[7/4]]; six of them (after octave reduction) make a slightly sharp septimal minor third ~[[7/6]]; thirteen of them (after more octave reduction) make a near-just undecimal minor sixth ~[[11/7]]; and fourteen of them make a sharp classic minor seventh ~[[9/5]]. Although this is a respectable list of intervals, the unmodified rank-2 version of the temperament does not make a very good [[MOS]] scale — instead it makes for scales in which the small interval is only 1\49. Therefore, for facility in making scales, including the aforementioned 4L 3s, a second generator is needed (thus elevating this to a rank-3 temperament that tempers out [[364/363]], [[540/539]], and [[847/845]]); that generator uses one key down-right (3\49) as the slightly sharp classic chromatic semitone ~[[25/24]], which 49edo uses here more like a diatonic semitone (although the actual 49edo diatonic semitone is only 2\49). Catalan uses one key right plus one key down-right (13\49) as a slightly sharp classic minor third for its generator; two of them make a very flat Axirabian paraminor fifth ~[[16/11]]; four of them (after octave reduction) make a slightly sharp classic chromatic semitone ~[[25/24]]; five of them make a mildly sharp classic major third ~[[5/4]]; six of them make a sharp fifth ~[[3/2]]; seven of them make a sharp classic minor seventh ~[[9/5]]; eight of them (after more octave-reduction) make a mildly flat undecimal neutral second ~[[12/11]]; and ten of them make a near-just undecimal minor sixth ~[[11/7]]. Catalan does not need a second generator to produce usable MOS scales, including the aforementioned 4L 3s.
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==== Reverse chroma version ====
It is possible to make a reverse chroma version of the above mapping. The range is considerably less, at a bit over 3⅓ octaves, with considerable regions of non-contiguous notes in the upper left and lower right corners, and the octaves slope down, incurring a vertical wraparound; on the other hand, a considerable number of repeated notes are available in each complete octave to mitigate vertical wraparounds. [[Bryan Deister]] has demonstrated this in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VmUIxWb8NCY ''49edo prelude''] (2026), although with note 0 set to where note 38 is here.
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=49|start=6|xstep=3|ystep=7}}
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== Aureus Pseudo-Meantone Lumatone mappings ==
== Aureus Pseudo-Meantone Lumatone mappings ==
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=== 87edo (demonstrated to work) ===
=== 87edo (demonstrated to work) ===


[[Bryan Deister]] has demonstrated a [[11L&nbsp;5s]] (7:2 step ratio) mapping for [[87edo]] in [[https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rINJKiMQE78 ''Circuit Bent - Stomach Book (microtonal cover in 87edo)''] (2025). The generator 14\87, which is two keys right from the root note, is the quasi-meantone ~[[19/17]], which is composed of highly inaccurate harmonics whose errors nearly cancel out, rendering it near-just; two of them make an essentially just classic major third ~[[5/4]]. (In contrast to actual [[meantone]] temperament, 87edo represents ~19/17, ~[[10/9]], and ~[[9/8]] as distinct intervals &mdash; the syntonic comma [[81/80]] is not tempered out, and instead the aureusma [[1445/1444]] equates two quasi-meantones to a classic major third.) Since this interval is two keys right instead of just one (as needed to avoid missing notes), this version of the temperament can be viewed as a split generator version, in which each ~19/17 is split into two equal intervals that function as both a small septendecimal semitone ~[[18/17]] and a large undevicesimal semitone ~[[19/18]], both being close to just (and the photisma [[324/323]] is tempered out). Although no second generator is needed to reach all of the notes, for convenience, down-right by one key (2\87) can be used for convenience as a second generator that functions as ~[[49/48]] (inconsistently mapped), ~[[55/54]], ~[[64/63]], ~[[65/64]], and ~[[81/80]], of which the septimal chroma ~64/63 is near-just, and four of these make a near-just classic diatonic semitone ~[[16/15]] (the currently unnamed unnoticeable comma [[5250987/5242880]] is tempered out). The range is somewhat over two octaves (which slant very slightly downwards) with no missed notes and some repeated notes to mitigate vertical wraparounds.
[[Bryan Deister]] has demonstrated a [[11L&nbsp;5s]] (7:2 step ratio) mapping for [[87edo]] in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rINJKiMQE78 ''Circuit Bent - Stomach Book (microtonal cover in 87edo)''] (2025). The generator 14\87, which is two keys right from the root note, is the quasi-meantone ~[[19/17]], which is composed of highly inaccurate harmonics whose errors nearly cancel out, rendering it near-just; two of them make an essentially just classic major third ~[[5/4]]. (In contrast to actual [[meantone]] temperament, 87edo represents ~19/17, ~[[10/9]], and ~[[9/8]] as distinct intervals &mdash; the syntonic comma [[81/80]] is not tempered out, and instead the aureusma [[1445/1444]] equates two quasi-meantones to a classic major third.) Since this interval is two keys right instead of just one (as needed to avoid missing notes), this version of the temperament can be viewed as a split generator version, in which each ~19/17 is split into two equal intervals that function as both a small septendecimal semitone ~[[18/17]] and a large undevicesimal semitone ~[[19/18]], both being close to just (and the photisma [[324/323]] is tempered out). Although no second generator is needed to reach all of the notes, for convenience, down-right by one key (2\87) can be used for convenience as a second generator that functions as ~[[49/48]] (inconsistently mapped), ~[[55/54]], ~[[64/63]], ~[[65/64]], and ~[[81/80]], of which the septimal chroma ~64/63 is near-just, and four of these make a near-just classic diatonic semitone ~[[16/15]] (the currently unnamed unnoticeable comma [[5250987/5242880]] is tempered out). The range is somewhat over two octaves (which slant very slightly downwards) with no missed notes and some repeated notes to mitigate vertical wraparounds.


{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=87|start=6|xstep=7|ystep=-5}}
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=87|start=6|xstep=7|ystep=-5}}


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== Aureus Pseudo-Meantone + Mediantone + Roulette + Hemiwürschmidt + Hemiwur Lumatone mappings ==
 
=== 37edo (demonstrated to work) ===
 
[[Bryan Deister]] has demonstrated a [[6L&nbsp;1s]] (6:1 step ratio) mapping for [[37edo]] in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Jt6_r6r3lGY ''37edo improv''] (2026). This mapping functions as an aureus pseudo-meantone mapping; this functions for temperaments [[mediantone]], [[roulette]], [[hemiwürschmidt]], and [[hemiwur]]; it has a generator 6\37 that functions as both a slightly sharp quasi-meantone ~[[19/17]] and a slightly flat septimal middle whole tone ~[[28/25]]. (In contrast to actual [[meantone]] temperament, 37edo represents ~19/17 (or 28/25), ~[[10/9]], and ~[[9/8]] as distinct intervals &mdash; the syntonic comma [[81/80]] is not tempered out, but inflated to 2\37, and instead the aureusma [[1445/1444]] equates two quasi-meantones to a classic major third.) The range is a bit under 4½ octaves, and the octaves slope upwards moderately.
 
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=37|start=12|xstep=6|ystep=-5}}
 
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== Baldy Lumatone mappings ==
== Baldy Lumatone mappings ==
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== Infraorwell Lumatone mappings ==
== Infraorwell Lumatone mappings ==


=== 49edo ===
=== 49edo (demonstrated to work) ===
 
The septimal minor third ~[[7/6]] (11\49) of [[49edo]]is near-just, which suggests its use as a generator, as in [[Orwell]]; however, it is too close to just for actual Orwell eemperament, and so a stack of it manages to miss all of the intervals characteristic of Orwell, other than a fairly flat classic minor sixth ~[[8/5]] &mdash; hence [[Orwellismic_temperaments#Infraorwell|Infraorwell]].


==== 4L&nbsp;5s (forward chroma; proposed and untested) ====
The septimal minor third ~[[7/6]] (11\49) of [[49edo]] is near-just, which suggests its use as a generator, as in [[Orwell]]; however, it is too close to just for actual Orwell eemperament, and so a stack of it manages to miss all of the intervals characteristic of Orwell, other than a fairly flat classic minor sixth ~[[8/5]] &mdash; hence [[Orwellismic_temperaments#Infraorwell|infraorwell]]. It is possible to produce a forward chroma [[4L&nbsp;5s]] (gramitonic, 6:5 step ratio) infraorwell mapping for 49edo, as demonstrated in [[Bryan Deister]]'s [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pK-JcIrd18 Deltarune – ''Man'' (cover)] (2023) and (very differently) in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/V8t7MyP2Nuo ''microtonal improv in 49edo''] (2024). This mapping gets all notes in each octave and has a range of a bit over 4 octaves with repeated notes to mitigate vertical wraparounds; the octaves alternate between near/far and middle, with double octaves sloping slightly upwards.


It is possible to produce a forward chroma [[4L&nbsp;5s]] (gramitonic, 6:5 step ratio) [[Orwellismic_temperaments#Infraorwell|Infraorwell]] mapping for 49edo. This mapping gets all notes in each octave and has a range of a bit over 4 octaves.
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=49|start=33|xstep=6|ystep=-1}}
 
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=== 67edo (2 mappings demonstrated to work) ===
=== 67edo (2 mappings demonstrated to work) ===
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== Sensei Lumatone mappings ==
=== 84edo (demonstrated to work) ===
It is possible to map [[84edo]] using a supermajor third as a generator, as in [[sensei]] temperament. The generator 31\84 is two keys right plus one key down-right, and it functions as a flat ~[[162/125]] in the 5-limit, as a near-just ~[[84/65]] in the 13-limit, as a somewhat flat septendecimal ultramajor third ~[[22/17]] in the 17-limit (requires use of the 84e val to map correctly), and as a slightly sharp ~[[49/38]] in the 19-limit. Two of these generators make a near-just classic major sixth ~[[5/3]]; five of them make a somewhat flat classic minor seventh ~[[9/5]]; seven of them make a near-just (slightly flat) fifth ~[[3/2]]; and nine of them make a near-just classic major third ~[[5/4]]. Unfortunately, the [[3L&nbsp;5s]] scale (13:9 step ratio) mapping tries to get too many octaves (four) for mapping a tuning system this large on the currently available version of the Lumatone, so it misses some notes in each octave; furthermore, the octaves slope down mildly. Despite the missing notes [[Bryan Deister]] has used this mapping in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Qu6UIA2NmmQ ''84edo groove''] (2026).
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== Sephiroth + Variant Orwell + Meansquared Lumatone mappings ==
== Sephiroth + Variant Orwell + Meansquared Lumatone mappings ==
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== Tritikleismic-related 2.3.25.7 subgroup temperament Lumatone mappings ==
=== 51edo (demonstrated to work) ===
One way of treating [[51edo]] is as three versions of [[17edo]], rearranged so as to divide the fifth and the octave also into three parts each, as demonstrated by [[Bryan Deister]] in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3NOBYbiqpo ''51edo improv''] (2026-04-22). This is very much like [[landscape]] temperament in equating the octave with a stack of three near-just quasi-tempered major thirds (~[[63/50]], as 17\51), but requires use of the 2.3.25.7 subgroup; division of the fifth (~[[3/2]], as 30\51) into three parts (slightly sharp septimal major seconds ~[[8/7]], as 10\51) also puts this temperament in the [[gamelismic clan]] (thus related to [[tritikleismic]], but again using the 2.3.25.7 subgroup). The obvious scale moving up and right is [[3L&nbsp;3s]] (10:7 step ratio); the obvious scale moving right and down-right is [[9L&nbsp;4s&nbsp;(4/1-equivalent)]] (10:3 step ratio); the upward and downward movements in the latter scale nearly cancel out so that while octaves alternate between far and near, double octaves just barely slope down. The range is 5¼ octaves with no missed notes and no repeated notes.
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=51|start=4|xstep=10|ystep=-7}}
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== Whitewood + Bohpier Lumatone mappings ==
== Whitewood + Bohpier Lumatone mappings ==