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== Approximations of odd harmonics ==
 
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[[User:BudjarnLambeth/Draft related tunings section]]
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= Title1 =
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== Octave stretch or compression ==
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99edo's approximations of harmonics 3, 5, and 7 can all be improved if slightly [[stretched and compressed tuning|compressing the octave]] is acceptable, using tunings such as [[157edt]] or [[256ed6]]. 157edt is especially performant if the 13-limit of the 99ef val is intended, but the 7-limit part is overcompressed, for which the milder 256ed6 is a better choice. If the 13-limit patent val is intended, then little to no compression, or even stretch, might be serviceable.
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What follows is a comparison of stretched- and compressed-octave 99edo tunings.
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; [[zpi|567zpi]]
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* Step size: 12.138{{c}}, octave size: 1201.66{{c}}
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Stretching the octave of 99edo by around 1.5{{c}} results in improved primes 11, 13, 17, and 19, but worse primes 2, 3, 5 and 7. This approximates all harmonics up to 16 within 5.54{{c}}. The tuning 567zpi does this.
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{{Harmonics in cet|12.138|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 567zpi}}
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{{Harmonics in cet|12.138|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 567zpi (continued)}}
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; [[WE|99et, 13-limit WE tuning]]
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* Step size: 12.123{{c}}, octave size: 1200.18{{c}}
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Stretching the octave of 99edo by around a fifth of a cent results in improved primes 11 and 13, but worse primes 2, 3, 5 and 7. This approximates all harmonics up to 16 within 5.25{{c}}. Its 13-limit WE tuning and 13-limit [[TE]] tuning both do this.
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{{Harmonics in cet|12.123|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 99et, 13-limit WE tuning}}
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{{Harmonics in cet|12.123|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 99et, 13-limit WE tuning (continued)}}
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; 99edo
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* Step size: 12.121{{c}}, octave size: 1200.00{{c}}  
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Pure-octaves 99edo approximates all harmonics up to 16 within 5.86{{c}}.
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{{Harmonics in equal|99|2|1|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 99edo}}
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{{Harmonics in equal|99|2|1|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 99edo (continued)}}
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; [[WE|99et, 7-limit WE tuning]] / [[256ed6]]
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* Step size: 12.117{{c}}, octave size: 1199.58{{c}}
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Compressing the octave of 99edo by around 0.6{{c}} results in improved primes 3, 5, 7 and 11, but worse primes 2 and 13. This approximates all harmonics up to 16 within 5.71{{c}}. Its 7-limit WE tuning and 7-limit [[TE]] tuning both do this. So does the tuning 256ed6 whose octave is identical within a thousandth of a cent.
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{{Harmonics in cet|12.117|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 99et, 7-limit WE tuning}}
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{{Harmonics in cet|12.117|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 99et, 7-limit WE tuning (continued)}}
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; [[zpi|568zpi]]
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* Step size: 12.115{{c}}, octave size: 1199.39{{c}}
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Compressing the octave of 99edo by around 0.4{{c}} results in improved primes 3, 5, 7 and 11, but worse primes 2 and 13. This approximates all harmonics up to 16 within 5.68{{c}}. The tuning 568zpi does this.
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{{Harmonics in cet|12.115|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 568zpi}}
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{{Harmonics in cet|12.115|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 568zpi (continued)}}
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; [[157edt]] / [[ed5|230ed5]]
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* Step size: 12.114{{c}}, octave size: 1199.32{{c}}
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Compressing the octave of 99edo by around 0.3{{c}} results in improved primes 3, 5, 7 and 11, but worse primes 2 and 13. This approximates all harmonics up to 16 within 5.44{{c}}. The tuning 157edt does this. So does 230ed5 whose octave is identical within a hundredth of a cent.
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{{Harmonics in equal|157|3|1|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 157edt}}
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{{Harmonics in equal|157|3|1|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 157edt (continued)}}
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= Title2 =
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=== Possible tunings to be used on each page ===
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You can remove some of these or add more that aren't listed here; this section is pretty much just brainstorming.
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(Used https://x31eq.com/temper-pyscript/net.html, used WE instead of TE cause it kept defaulting to WE and I kept not remembering to switch it)
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; High-priority
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23edo (narrow down edonoi & ZPIs)
* Main: "23edo and octave stretching"
* 36edt
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* 59ed6
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* 60ed6
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* 2.3.5.13 WE (52.447c)
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* 13-limit WE (52.237c)
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* 84zpi (52.615c)
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* 85zpi (52.114c)
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* 86zpi (51.653c)
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60edo (narrow down edonoi & ZPIs)
* 95edt
* 35edf
* 139ed5
* 155ed6
* 208ed11
* (???)ed12
* 255ed19
* 272ed23 (great for catnip temperament, maybe there's a similar but simpler tuning w similar benefits?)
* 13-limit WE (20.013c)
* 299zpi (20.128c)
* 300zpi (20.093c)
* 301zpi (20.027c)
* 302zpi (19.962c)
* 303zpi (19.913c)
* 304zpi (19.869c)
 
; Medium priority
 
13edo
* Main: "13edo and optimal octave stretching"
* 2.5.11.13 WE (92.483c)
* 2.5.7.13 WE (92.804c)
* 2.3 WE (91.405c) (good for opposite 7 mapping)
* 38zpi (92.531c)
 
32edo (narrow down ZPIs)
* 90ed7
* 51edt
* 75ed5
* 1ed46/45
* 11-limit WE (37.453c)
* 13-limit WE (37.481c)
* 131zpi (37.862c)
* 132zpi (37.662c)
* 133zpi (37.418c)
* 134zpi (37.176c)
 
33edo (narrow down edonoi)
* 76ed5
* 92ed7
* 52edt
* 1ed47/46
* 114ed11
* 122ed13
* 93ed7
* 23edPhi
* 77ed5
* 123ed13
* 115ed11
* 11-limit WE (36.349c)
* 13-limit WE (36.357c)
* 137zpi (36.628c)
* 138zpi (36.394c)
* 139zpi (36.179c)
 
39edo (narrow down slightly)
* 62edt
* 101ed6
* 18ed11/8
* 2.3.5.11 WE (30.703c)
* 2.3.7.11.13 WE (30.787c)
* 13-limit WE (30.757c)
* 171zpi (30.973c)
* 172zpi (30.836c)
* 173zpi (30.672c)
 
42edo (narrow down slightly)
* 42ed257/128 (replace w something similar but simpler)
* AS123/121 (1ed123/121)
* 11ed6/5
* 34ed7/4
* 7-limit WE (28.484c)
* 13-limit WE (28.534c)
* 189zpi (28.689c)
* 190zpi (28.572c)
* 191zpi (28.444c)
 
45edo
* 126ed7
* 13ed11/9
* 7-limit WE (26.745c)
* 13-limit WE (26.695c)
* 207zpi (26.762)
* 208zpi (26.646)
* 209zpi (26.550)
 
54edo (narrow down slightly)
* 86edt
* 126ed5
* 152ed7
* 38ed5/3
* 40ed5/3
* 2.3.7.11.13 WE (22.180c)
* 13-limit WE (22.198c)
* 262zpi (22.313c)
* 263zpi (22.243c)
* 264zpi (22.175c)
 
59edo (narrow down ZPIs)
* 93edt
* 166ed7
* 203ed11
* 7-limit WE (20.301c)
* 11-limit WE (20.310c)
* 13-limit WE (20.320c)
* 293zpi (20.454c)
* 294zpi (20.399c)
* 295zpi (20.342c)
* 296zpi (20.282c)
* 297zpi (20.229c)
 
64edo (narrow down ZPIs)
* 149ed5
* 180ed7
* 222ed11
* 47ed5/3
* 11-limit WE (18.755c)
* 13-limit WE (18.752c)
* 325zpi (18.868c)
* 326zpi (18.816c)
* 327zpi (18.767c)
* 328zpi (18.721c)
* 329zpi (18.672c)
* 330zpi (18.630c)
 
103edo (narrow down edonoi, choose ZPIS)
* 163edt
* 239ed5
* (???)ed6
* 289ed7
* 356ed11
* (???)ed12
* 381ed13
* 421ed17
* 466ed23
* 13-limit WE (11.658c)
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
111edo (choose ZPIS)
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
118edo (choose ZPIS)
* 187edt
* 69edf
* 13-limit WE (10.171c)
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
; Low priority
 
104edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
125edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
145edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
152edo
* 241edt
* 13-limit WE (7.894c)
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
159edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
166edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
182edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
198edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
212edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
243edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
247edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
; Optional
 
25edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
26edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
29edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
30edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
34edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
35edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
36edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
37edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
5edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
6edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
9edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
10edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
11edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
15edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
18edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
48edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
20edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
24edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
28edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)