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'''9801/9800''', the '''kalisma''', sometimes described as ''Gauss' comma'', is an [[unnoticeable comma|unnoticeable]] [[11-limit]] [[comma]] measuring about 0.18{{cent}}. It is the smallest 11-limit [[superparticular]] interval. It can be described as the difference between [[99/70]] and its [[octave complement]] [[140/99]], or between ([[35/33]])<sup>2</sup> and [[9/8]].
'''9801/9800''', the '''kalisma''', sometimes described as ''Gauss' comma'', is an [[unnoticeable comma|unnoticeable]] [[11-limit]] [[comma]] measuring about 0.18{{cent}}. It is the smallest 11-limit [[superparticular]] interval. It can be described as the difference between [[99/70]] and its [[octave complement]] [[140/99]], between ([[35/33]])<sup>2</sup> and [[9/8]], or between ([[176/175]])<sup>2</sup> and [[2048/2025]].


In terms of superparticular commas, it is the difference between:  
In terms of superparticular commas, it is the difference between:  
* [[99/98]] and [[100/99]]
* [[99/98]] and [[100/99]]
* [[351/350]] and [[364/363]]
* [[1716/1715]] and [[2080/2079]]
* [[1716/1715]] and [[2080/2079]]
* [[3025/3024]] and [[4375/4374]]
* [[3025/3024]] and [[4375/4374]]
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* [[245/243]] and [[121/120]]
* [[245/243]] and [[121/120]]
* [[245/242]] and [[81/80]]
* [[245/242]] and [[81/80]]
* [[176/175]] and [[896/891]]


It also factors into the two smallest 13-limit superparticular commas: 9801/9800 = ([[10648/10647]])⋅([[123201/123200]]).
It also factors into the two smallest 13-limit superparticular commas: 9801/9800 = ([[10648/10647]])⋅([[123201/123200]]).


== Temperaments ==
== Temperaments ==
[[Tempering out]] this comma leads to the '''kalismic temperament''', which splits the [[octave]] into two equal parts, each representing 99/70~140/99. Tempering it out also means that [[10/9]] and [[11/7]] are 1/2-octave apart, as well as are [[11/10]] and [[14/9]]. Odd-numbered edos cannot temper it out, as they do not have a semioctave.
[[Tempering out]] this comma leads to the '''kalismic temperament''', which splits the [[octave]] into two equal parts, each representing 99/70~140/99. Tempering it out also means that the [[pythagorean comma]] is split into two [[2835/2816]] halves, [[10/9]] and [[11/7]] are a semioctave apart, as well as are [[11/10]] and [[14/9]]. Odd-numbered edos cannot temper it out, as they do not have a semioctave.


See [[Rank-4 temperament #Kalismic (9801/9800)]] for some technical details. See [[Kalismic temperaments]] for a collection of rank-3 temperaments where it is tempered out.
See [[Rank-4 temperament #Kalismic (9801/9800)]] for some technical details. See [[Kalismic temperaments]] for a collection of rank-3 temperaments where it is tempered out.