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| : This revision was by author [[User:xenwolf|xenwolf]] and made on <tt>2011-06-29 06:52:27 UTC</tt>.<br>
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| <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">Thoughts on where this wiki could/should/will go: [[wikifuture]]. Discuss as needed. There's also some [[wiki help]].
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| =A guide to discussing tunings on the Internets=
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| Many naysayers claim a great dichotomy between 'talking' and 'doing something'. They forget that talking IS doing //something//. From [[http://www.marxists.org/subject/education/freire/pedagogy/ch03.htm|Paolo Friere]] ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulo_Freire|Wikipedia article]]) (whom I, xenjacob, recommend), //mere// action is just as undesirable as //mere// words.
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| ===A word of advice===
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| Everything said is said by someone. To gain a sensible view of what's going on, observe not only what is said but by whom it is said. This way you can be sure to
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| ==Active discussion lists==
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| [[http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/|Yahoo tuning list]] - the oldest mailing list about tuning. If you ask a good question, you will receive some good answers. A large membership means potential for a huge variety of voices, which has been sometimes squelched by over-posting by the [[tuning regulars|"regulars"]]. For a hand-selected digest, see [[tuning list reviews]]
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| [[http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning-math/|Yahoo tuning-math list]] - An outgrowth of [tuning], a haven for the math-savvy. Much of [[contemporary temperament theory]] was developed by people here.
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| [[http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/MakeMicroMusic/|Yahoo MakeMicroMusic list]] - Another outgrowth of [tuning], in the direction of, let's hear some music! The emphasis is on sharing original microtonal music, which sometimes unfortunately devolves into endless tech-talk.
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| [[http://www.nonoctave.com/forum/|nonoctave forum]] - A forum on XJ Scott's website, frequented by some of the more hermit-prone microtonalists.
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| [[http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2229924481&v=wall|"Xenharmonic Alliance" group on Facebook]]</pre></div> | |
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| <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>GeneralDiscussion</title></head><body>Thoughts on where this wiki could/should/will go: <a class="wiki_link" href="/wikifuture">wikifuture</a>. Discuss as needed. There's also some <a class="wiki_link" href="/wiki%20help">wiki help</a>.<br />
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| Many naysayers claim a great dichotomy between 'talking' and 'doing something'. They forget that talking IS doing <em>something</em>. From <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.marxists.org/subject/education/freire/pedagogy/ch03.htm" rel="nofollow">Paolo Friere</a> (<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulo_Freire" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia article</a>) (whom I, xenjacob, recommend), <em>mere</em> action is just as undesirable as <em>mere</em> words.<br />
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| <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:4:&lt;h3&gt; --><h3 id="toc2"><a name="A guide to discussing tunings on the Internets--A word of advice"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:4 -->A word of advice</h3>
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| Everything said is said by someone. To gain a sensible view of what's going on, observe not only what is said but by whom it is said. This way you can be sure to<br />
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| <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:6:&lt;h2&gt; --><h2 id="toc3"><a name="A guide to discussing tunings on the Internets-Active discussion lists"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:6 -->Active discussion lists</h2>
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| <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/" rel="nofollow">Yahoo tuning list</a> - the oldest mailing list about tuning. If you ask a good question, you will receive some good answers. A large membership means potential for a huge variety of voices, which has been sometimes squelched by over-posting by the <a class="wiki_link" href="/tuning%20regulars">&quot;regulars&quot;</a>. For a hand-selected digest, see <a class="wiki_link" href="/tuning%20list%20reviews">tuning list reviews</a><br />
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| <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning-math/" rel="nofollow">Yahoo tuning-math list</a> - An outgrowth of [tuning], a haven for the math-savvy. Much of <a class="wiki_link" href="/contemporary%20temperament%20theory">contemporary temperament theory</a> was developed by people here.<br />
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| <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/MakeMicroMusic/" rel="nofollow">Yahoo MakeMicroMusic list</a> - Another outgrowth of [tuning], in the direction of, let's hear some music! The emphasis is on sharing original microtonal music, which sometimes unfortunately devolves into endless tech-talk.<br />
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| <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.nonoctave.com/forum/" rel="nofollow">nonoctave forum</a> - A forum on XJ Scott's website, frequented by some of the more hermit-prone microtonalists.<br />
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| <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2229924481&amp;v=wall" rel="nofollow">&quot;Xenharmonic Alliance&quot; group on Facebook</a></body></html></pre></div>
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