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In [[5-limit]] [[just intonation]], '''6/5''' is the '''just minor third''', '''classic(al) minor third''', or '''ptolemaic minor third'''<ref>For reference, see [[5-limit]]. </ref>, measuring about 315.6[[cent|¢]]. It is sharp of the [[Pythagorean]] minor third of [[32/27]] (about 294.1¢) as well as the 300¢ minor third of [[4edo]], [[12edo]] and all other 4n-[[EDO|edos]]. It arises in the [[harmonic series]] between the 5th and 6th harmonics and appears in the [[5-limit]] otonal triad of 4:5:6. A 5-limit minor triad in just intonation can be written 10:12:15, with 6/5 falling between 10 and 12, [[5/4]] falling between 12 and 15, and [[3/2]] falling between 10 and 15.
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315.64129 cents
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In [[5-limit]] [[Just Intonation]], **6/5** is the classic minor third, measuring about 315.6[[Cent|¢]]. It is sharp of the [[Pythagorean]] minor third of [[32_27|32/27]] (about 294.) as well as the 300¢ minor third of [[4edo]], [[12edo]] and all other 4n-[[edo]]s. It arises in the [[OverToneSeries|harmonic series]] between the 5th and 6th overtones and appears in the [[5-limit]] otonal triad of 4:5:6. A 5-limit minor triad in just intonation can be written 10:12:15, with 6/5 falling between 10 and 12, [[5_4|5/4]] falling between 12 and 15, and [[3_2|3/2]] falling between 10 and 15.
In higher-limit JI, 6/5 is only one of many minor thirds. A popular one in the [[7-limit]] is [[7/6]] (about 266.), the septimal subminor third, which is [[36/35]] (about 48.8¢) flat of 6/5. Another in the [[13-limit]] is [[13/11]] (about 289.2¢), which is [[66/65]] (about 26.4¢) flat of 6/5. Both of these are more complex intervals than 6/5 and have their own character to them.


In higher-limit JI, 6/5 is only one of many minor thirds. A popular one in the [[7-limit]] is [[7_6|7/6]] (about 266.9¢), the septimal subminor third, which is [[36_35|36/35]] (about 48.8¢) flat of 6/5. Another in the [[13-limit]] is [[13_11|13/11]] (about 289.2¢), which is [[66_65|66/65]] (about 26.4¢) flat of 6/5. Both of these are more complex intervals than 6/5 and have their own character to them.
== Approximation ==
6/5 is very accurately approximated by [[19edo]] (5\19), and hence the [[enneadecal]] temperament.
{{Interval edo approximation}}


See: [[Gallery of Just Intervals]], [[List of root-3rd-P5 triads in JI]]</pre></div>
== See also ==
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* [[5/3]] – its [[octave complement]]
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* [[5/4]] – its [[fifth complement]]
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* [[10/9]] – its [[fourth complement]]
315.64129 cents&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]
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* [[List of superparticular intervals]]
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In &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5-limit"&gt;5-limit&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Just%20Intonation"&gt;Just Intonation&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;strong&gt;6/5&lt;/strong&gt; is the classic minor third, measuring about 315.6&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Cent"&gt;¢&lt;/a&gt;. It is sharp of the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Pythagorean"&gt;Pythagorean&lt;/a&gt; minor third of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/32_27"&gt;32/27&lt;/a&gt; (about 294.1¢) as well as the 300¢ minor third of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/4edo"&gt;4edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo"&gt;12edo&lt;/a&gt; and all other 4n-&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/edo"&gt;edo&lt;/a&gt;s. It arises in the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/OverToneSeries"&gt;harmonic series&lt;/a&gt; between the 5th and 6th overtones and appears in the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5-limit"&gt;5-limit&lt;/a&gt; otonal triad of 4:5:6. A 5-limit minor triad in just intonation can be written 10:12:15, with 6/5 falling between 10 and 12, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5_4"&gt;5/4&lt;/a&gt; falling between 12 and 15, and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/3_2"&gt;3/2&lt;/a&gt; falling between 10 and 15.&lt;br /&gt;
 
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== Notes ==
In higher-limit JI, 6/5 is only one of many minor thirds. A popular one in the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7-limit"&gt;7-limit&lt;/a&gt; is &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7_6"&gt;7/6&lt;/a&gt; (about 266.9¢), the septimal subminor third, which is &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/36_35"&gt;36/35&lt;/a&gt; (about 48.8¢) flat of 6/5. Another in the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/13-limit"&gt;13-limit&lt;/a&gt; is &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/13_11"&gt;13/11&lt;/a&gt; (about 289.2¢), which is &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/66_65"&gt;66/65&lt;/a&gt; (about 26.4¢) flat of 6/5. Both of these are more complex intervals than 6/5 and have their own character to them.&lt;br /&gt;
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See: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Gallery%20of%20Just%20Intervals"&gt;Gallery of Just Intervals&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/List%20of%20root-3rd-P5%20triads%20in%20JI"&gt;List of root-3rd-P5 triads in JI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
[[Category:Third]]
[[Category:Minor third]]
[[Category:Over-5 intervals]]

Latest revision as of 17:29, 6 November 2025

Interval information
Ratio 6/5
Factorization 2 × 3 × 5-1
Monzo [1 1 -1
Size in cents 315.6413¢
Names just minor third,
classic(al) minor third,
ptolemaic minor third
Color name g3, gu 3rd
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{m3}_{5} }[/math]
Special properties superparticular,
reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 4.90689
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 5.16993
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 10

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In 5-limit just intonation, 6/5 is the just minor third, classic(al) minor third, or ptolemaic minor third[1], measuring about 315.6¢. It is sharp of the Pythagorean minor third of 32/27 (about 294.1¢) as well as the 300¢ minor third of 4edo, 12edo and all other 4n-edos. It arises in the harmonic series between the 5th and 6th harmonics and appears in the 5-limit otonal triad of 4:5:6. A 5-limit minor triad in just intonation can be written 10:12:15, with 6/5 falling between 10 and 12, 5/4 falling between 12 and 15, and 3/2 falling between 10 and 15.

In higher-limit JI, 6/5 is only one of many minor thirds. A popular one in the 7-limit is 7/6 (about 266.9¢), the septimal subminor third, which is 36/35 (about 48.8¢) flat of 6/5. Another in the 13-limit is 13/11 (about 289.2¢), which is 66/65 (about 26.4¢) flat of 6/5. Both of these are more complex intervals than 6/5 and have their own character to them.

Approximation

6/5 is very accurately approximated by 19edo (5\19), and hence the enneadecal temperament.

Edo approximations for 6/5 (315.64 ¢)
≤ 80edo, relative error ≤ 10%
Edo Step size Cents (¢) Absolute error (¢) Relative error (%)
4 1\4 300.00 -15.64 -5.21
15 4\15 320.00 +4.36 +5.45
19 5\19 315.79 +0.15 +0.23
23 6\23 313.04 -2.60 -4.98
34 9\34 317.65 +2.01 +5.68
38 10\38 315.79 +0.15 +0.47
42 11\42 314.29 -1.36 -4.74
46 12\46 313.04 -2.60 -9.96
53 14\53 316.98 +1.34 +5.92
57 15\57 315.79 +0.15 +0.70
61 16\61 314.75 -0.89 -4.51
65 17\65 313.85 -1.80 -9.72
72 19\72 316.67 +1.03 +6.15
76 20\76 315.79 +0.15 +0.94
80 21\80 315.00 -0.64 -4.28

See also

Notes

  1. For reference, see 5-limit.