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The 8<sup>th</sup> Octave Overtone Tuning, sometimes known as 128 Tuning, is a tuning developed by [[Johnny Reinhard|Johnny Reinhard]].
{{Infobox AFDO|steps=128}}


It consists of harmonics of the [[OverToneSeries|harmonic series]], numbers 128 (2<sup>8</sup>, hence 8<sup>th</sup> octave) through 255.
'''128afdo''' ([[AFDO|arithmetic frequency division of the octave]]), or '''128odo''' ([[otonal division]] of the octave), divides the octave into 128 parts of 1/128 each. It is a superset of [[127afdo]] and a subset of [[129afdo]]. As a scale it may be known as [[harmonic mode|mode 128 of the harmonic series]] or the [[overtone scale #Over-n scales|Over-128]] scale.


Scales can be selected as subsets of these 128 pitches, or the entire set can be used.
The '''8<sup>th</sup> Octave Overtone Tuning''', sometimes known as '''128 Tuning''', is a tuning developed by [[Johnny Reinhard]]. It is equivalent to 128afdo, except that it has a fixed root and cannot be rotated. It consists of harmonics of the [[harmonic series]], numbers 128 (2<sup>7</sup>, hence 8<sup>th</sup> octave) through 255. It is an Over-1 scale, specifically mode 128 of the harmonic series. Scales can be selected as subsets of these 128 pitches, or the entire set can be used.


A key benefit of using pitches exclusively from the same harmonic series is that they share a fundamental. By using the 8<sup>th</sup> octave of a harmonic series, said fundamental will almost certainly be [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/infrasonic infrasonic], but it will still have a [[wikipedia:Psychoacoustics|psychoacoustic]] presence.
A key benefit of using pitches exclusively from the same harmonic series is that they share a fundamental. By using the 8<sup>th</sup> octave of a harmonic series, said fundamental will almost certainly be [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/infrasonic infrasonic], but it will still have a [[psychoacoustic]] presence.


An illustratively surprising result of this higher harmonic tuning is that, since a just 4/3 does not have a power of 2 in the denominator and thus does not exist in the (octave-reduced) harmonic series, it will not be used in this tuning. Instead, when the inverse of the 3/2 ratio is needed, one may use 43/32 (511.517706¢) or 171/128 (501.423018¢).  
An illustratively surprising result of this higher harmonic tuning is that, since a just [[4/3]] does not have a power of 2 in the denominator and thus does not exist in the (octave-reduced) harmonic series, it will not be used in this tuning. Instead, when the inverse of the [[3/2]] ratio is needed, one may use [[43/32]] (511.517706¢) or [[171/128]] (501.423018¢).  


== Reading ==
Due to having only one prime factor (2), yet also being a higher octave of a prime mode (mode 2), it is a very strong tuning for [[primodality]], providing a large gamut of intervals without compromising their clear prime identity.


[https://stereosociety.com/20/jpg/Johnny-Reinhard/8th-Octave-Overtone-Tuning.pdf Johnny Reinhard's original paper].
== Music ==
; [[Georg Friedrich Haas]]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxGcveURI-I ''For Johnny Reinhard''] (2015)


[https://www.cassgb.org/features/post/128-note-octave/ 128 NOTES PER OCTAVE ON THE SAXOPHONE: HOW I DID IT AND WHY!: Saxophonist Philipp Gerschlauer on how he went about devising a 128-note per octave fingering chart]
; [[Johnny Reinhard]]
* [https://open.spotify.com/album/7jtoRTNK2Pm7vxkq5PH12b ''True''] (2014)


[https://books.google.com/books/about/8th_Octave_Overtone_Tuning_and_Bassoon_F.html?id=YE9gAQAACAAJ Johnny Reinhard - 8th Octave Overtone Tuning and Bassoon Fingerings in 128]
; [[Glenn Branca]]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4re9tjY5es ''Symphony #3 "Gloria"''] (1983) – actually only the 7<sup>th</sup> octave harmonics, but the same idea


== See also ==
; [[Philipp Gerschlauer]]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGa66qHzKME ''128 notes per octave on Alto Saxophone''] (2015)


[https://www.kylegann.com/13th-Harmonic.html The tuning for Nursery Tunes for Demented Children by Kyle Gann] is a subset of 8th Octave Overtone Tuning.
; [[Juhani Nuorvala]]
 
* ''Toivo 128'' (2017) [https://soundcloud.com/juhani-nuorvala/toivo-128 recording] [https://nuotisto.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/store/e6fc131f958d13f87f3ea56b0d57beab50473c79bbc5a705b0dd6878214a.pdf score]
== Scores ==
 
[https://nuotisto.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/store/e6fc131f958d13f87f3ea56b0d57beab50473c79bbc5a705b0dd6878214a.pdf Juhani Nuorvala - Toivo 128]
   
   
== Listening ==
Composers John Eaton, Anton Rovner, Peter Alexander Thoegersen, Monroe Golden, and others have also worked with 8<sup>th</sup> Octave Overtone Tuning.{{citation needed}}
 
[https://johnnyreinhard.bandcamp.com/track/most-recent-for-johnny-reinhard-by-georg-friedrich-haas-for-solo-bassoon-in-128-tuning Georg Friedrich Haas - FOR JOHNNY REINHARD for bassoon in 128]
 
[https://johnnyreinhard.bandcamp.com/track/toivo-128-by-juhani-nuorvala-for-bassoon-and-pre-recording Juhani Nuorvala - Toivo 128 for bassoon and pre-recording]
 
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfWV4rNB6KE Well Tuned Piano] (actually up to the 11th octave harmonics, but same idea)
 
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4re9tjY5es Symphony #3 “Gloria”] (actually only the 7th octave harmonics, but the same idea)
 
[https://store.cdbaby.com/cd/johnnyreinhard1 Johnny Reinhard - True]


[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGa66qHzKME 128 notes per octave on Alto Saxophone - Philipp Gerschlauer]
== External links ==
* [https://stereosociety.com/20/jpg/Johnny-Reinhard/8th-Octave-Overtone-Tuning.pdf Johnny Reinhard's original paper].
* [https://www.cassgb.org/features/post/128-note-octave/ 128 NOTES PER OCTAVE ON THE SAXOPHONE: HOW I DID IT AND WHY!: Saxophonist Philipp Gerschlauer on how he went about devising a 128-note per octave fingering chart]
* [https://books.google.com/books/about/8th_Octave_Overtone_Tuning_and_Bassoon_F.html?id=YE9gAQAACAAJ Johnny Reinhard - 8th Octave Overtone Tuning and Bassoon Fingerings in 128]
* [https://www.kylegann.com/13th-Harmonic.html The tuning for Nursery Tunes for Demented Children by Kyle Gann] is a subset of 8th Octave Overtone Tuning.


Composers John Eaton, Rovner, Thoegersen, Golden, and others have also worked with 8<sup>th</sup> Octave Overtone Tuning.
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Latest revision as of 19:59, 8 August 2025

← 127afdo 128afdo 129afdo →
Prime factorization 27
Fifth 192/128 (701.955c)

128afdo (arithmetic frequency division of the octave), or 128odo (otonal division of the octave), divides the octave into 128 parts of 1/128 each. It is a superset of 127afdo and a subset of 129afdo. As a scale it may be known as mode 128 of the harmonic series or the Over-128 scale.

The 8th Octave Overtone Tuning, sometimes known as 128 Tuning, is a tuning developed by Johnny Reinhard. It is equivalent to 128afdo, except that it has a fixed root and cannot be rotated. It consists of harmonics of the harmonic series, numbers 128 (27, hence 8th octave) through 255. It is an Over-1 scale, specifically mode 128 of the harmonic series. Scales can be selected as subsets of these 128 pitches, or the entire set can be used.

A key benefit of using pitches exclusively from the same harmonic series is that they share a fundamental. By using the 8th octave of a harmonic series, said fundamental will almost certainly be infrasonic, but it will still have a psychoacoustic presence.

An illustratively surprising result of this higher harmonic tuning is that, since a just 4/3 does not have a power of 2 in the denominator and thus does not exist in the (octave-reduced) harmonic series, it will not be used in this tuning. Instead, when the inverse of the 3/2 ratio is needed, one may use 43/32 (511.517706¢) or 171/128 (501.423018¢).

Due to having only one prime factor (2), yet also being a higher octave of a prime mode (mode 2), it is a very strong tuning for primodality, providing a large gamut of intervals without compromising their clear prime identity.

Music

Georg Friedrich Haas
Johnny Reinhard
Glenn Branca
Philipp Gerschlauer
Juhani Nuorvala

Composers John Eaton, Anton Rovner, Peter Alexander Thoegersen, Monroe Golden, and others have also worked with 8th Octave Overtone Tuning.[citation needed]

External links