Talk:Target tuning: Difference between revisions

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This page suggests that one should fall back to the miniRMS method to tie-break between tied minimax tunings, but that sort of misses the point of the problem. The two tied points are on extreme opposite ends of the slice of good solutions, and the optimum solution lies somewhere in between them. We don't want the tie-break to choose one or the other extreme; we want to find a better solution somewhere in between them. Instead, a power limit method should be used here, such as discussed [[Dave_Keenan_%26_Douglas_Blumeyer%27s_guide_to_RTT:_tuning_computation#Tie_breaking:_power_limit_method|here]]. (More context for this issue may also be found around this footnote: https://en.xen.wiki/w/Generator_embedding_optimization#cite_note-14 .) --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 22:51, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

== The "minimax" method as described here is more generally a "miniaverage" method ==

It only works for computing minimax tunings under two specific circumstances, both of which the page happens to meet (unity-weight damage, and all members of the target-interval set expressible as products of other members), but are not true in general. For more information, see: https://en.xen.wiki/w/Generator_embedding_optimization#cite_note-11 --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 22:52, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

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 This page suggests that one should fall back to the miniRMS method to tie-break between tied minimax tunings, but that sort of misses the point of the problem. The two tied points are on extreme opposite ends of the slice of good solutions, and the optimum solution lies somewhere in between them. We don't want the tie-break to choose one or the other extreme; we want to find a better solution somewhere in between them. Instead, a power limit method should be used here, such as discussed [[Dave_Keenan_%26_Douglas_Blumeyer%27s_guide_to_RTT:_tuning_computation#Tie_breaking:_power_limit_method|here]]. (More context for this issue may also be found around this footnote: https://en.xen.wiki/w/Generator_embedding_optimization#cite_note-14 .) --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 22:51, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
+== The "minimax" method as described here is more generally a "miniaverage" method ==
+It only works for computing minimax tunings under two specific circumstances, both of which the page happens to meet (unity-weight damage, and all members of the target-interval set expressible as products of other members), but are not true in general. For more information, see: https://en.xen.wiki/w/Generator_embedding_optimization#cite_note-11 --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 22:52, 30 January 2023 (UTC)