Talk:Val
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IIL suggested we also talk about subgroup vals and tempered vals on this page. Some material on these have already been written (Gene called these "svals" and "tvals"). I revamped these two sections and linked to the relevant pages. Also, there is already a fairly universal notation everyone has been using on the various social media groups, where a subgroup val is notated "2.3.7 ⟨12 19 34]", for instance, so I put that there instead.
Tempered monzos and vals are something that I, in particular, have worked with very frequently (I think I made the original "Tmonzo and Tval" page). The notation we have been using is the same as the subgroup val notation, but with "tempered interval names," e.g. for meantone we'd have "P8.P5 ⟨12 7]" for 12-EDO (where P8 means 2/1 * (81/80)^n and P5 means 3/2 * (81/80)^n). For arbitrary temperaments without names we would typically do basically the same thing you said, i.e. just pick the best JI interval in the preimage and call it that. I adjusted the notation slightly to match the subgroup val one but your basic idea is good.
It would be really nice to get some notification about these suggestions before sweeping changes are made; if Flora Canou hadn't posted on FB I wouldn't have seen this. The mathematical pages have always been a collaborative effort and, for better or worse, every one of the heavy math folks are on Facebook. It would be great if you could join us there: https://www.facebook.com/groups/xenharmonicmath/ Mike Battaglia (talk) 10:20, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Mike! I remember you from seeing you on the FB Xenharmonic group approximately 10 years ago and learning RTT. I ideally don't want to join the group because I don't wish to associate my IRL name with my online handle. We can still talk on the wiki, though. Inthar (talk) 11:31, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Inthar, good to meet you... Could you at least make a new pseudonymous FB account then with a different name? There is currently some talk on Facebook about how we all feel the edits on here are impossible to keep up with; sometimes there are errors, etc. It would also be much better if we could talk about proposals for notation directly, rather than having you edit a page and then us edit only after, if we see it... There are plenty of users on the FB groups not using their real names... Thank you! Mike Battaglia (talk) 18:25, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Consider delete the current page of "Val" and move this page to "Val"
@Xenwolf
Like Monzo and Monzos and Interval Space. FloraC (talk) 05:56, 25 June 2020 (UTC)