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This article focuses on rank-2 temperaments. See [[Archytas family]] for the [[rank-3 temperament]] resulting from tempering out 64/63 alone in the full 7-limit. | This article focuses on rank-2 temperaments. See [[Archytas family]] for the [[rank-3 temperament]] resulting from tempering out 64/63 alone in the full 7-limit. | ||
== Archy == | == Archy == | ||
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==== 7-limit extensions ==== | ==== 7-limit extensions ==== | ||
The second comma in the comma list defines which [[7-limit]] family member we are looking at: | The second comma in the comma list defines which [[7-limit]] family member we are looking at: | ||
* [[#Schism|Schism]] adds 360/343, for a tuning around [[12edo]]; | * [[#Schism|Schism]] adds [[360/343]], for a tuning around [[12edo]]; | ||
* Dominant adds [[36/35]], for a tuning between [[12edo]] and [[17edo|17c-edo]]; | * [[Meantone family #Dominant|Dominant]] adds [[36/35]], for a tuning between [[12edo]] and [[17edo|17c-edo]]; | ||
* [[#Quasisuper|Quasisuper]] adds [[2430/2401]], for a tuning between 17c-edo and [[22edo]]; | * [[#Quasisuper|Quasisuper]] adds [[2430/2401]], for a tuning between 17c-edo and [[22edo]]; | ||
* [[#Superpyth|Superpyth]] adds [[245/243]], for a tuning between 22edo and [[27edo]]; | * [[#Superpyth|Superpyth]] adds [[245/243]], for a tuning between 22edo and [[27edo]]; | ||
* [[#Quasiultra|Quasiultra]] adds 33614/32805, for a tuning between 27edo and [[32edo]]; | * [[#Quasiultra|Quasiultra]] adds [[33614/32805]], for a tuning between 27edo and [[32edo]]; | ||
* [[#Ultrapyth|Ultrapyth]] adds 6860/6561, for a tuning sharp of 32edo; | * [[#Ultrapyth|Ultrapyth]] adds [[6860/6561]], for a tuning sharp of 32edo; | ||
* Mother adds [[16/15]], for an exotemperament well tuned around [[5edo]]. | * Mother adds [[16/15]], for an exotemperament well tuned around [[5edo]]. | ||
These all use the same generators as archy. | These all use the same generators as archy. | ||
[[686/675]] gives beatles | [[25/24]] gives dichotic. [[686/675]] gives beatles. Those split the fifth in two. [[8748/8575]] gives immunized, splitting the twelfth in two. [[50/49]] gives pajara with a semioctave period. [[392/375]] gives progress, splitting the twelfth in three. [[250/243]] gives porcupine, splitting the fourth in three. [[126/125]] gives augene with a 1/3-octave period. [[4375/4374]] gives modus, splitting the fifth in four. [[3125/3024]] gives brightstone. [[9604/9375]] gives fervor. [[3125/2916]] gives sixix. [[3125/3087]] gives passion. Those split the generator in five in various ways. [[28/27]] gives blackwood with a 1/5-octave period. Finally, [[15625/15552]] gives catalan, splitting the twelfth in six. | ||
Temperaments discussed elsewhere are: | Temperaments discussed elsewhere are: | ||
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* [[Dominant (temperament)|Dominant]] (+36/35) → [[Meantone family #Dominant|Meantone family]] | * [[Dominant (temperament)|Dominant]] (+36/35) → [[Meantone family #Dominant|Meantone family]] | ||
* ''[[Medusa]]'' (+15/14) → [[Very low accuracy temperaments #Medusa|Very low accuracy temperaments]] | * ''[[Medusa]]'' (+15/14) → [[Very low accuracy temperaments #Medusa|Very low accuracy temperaments]] | ||
* ''[[Dichotic]]'' (+25/24) → [[Dicot family #Dichotic|Dicot family]] | |||
* ''[[Immunized]]'' (+8748/8575) → [[Immunity family #Immunized|Immunity family]] | * ''[[Immunized]]'' (+8748/8575) → [[Immunity family #Immunized|Immunity family]] | ||
* [[Pajara]] (+50/49) → [[Diaschismic family #Pajara|Diaschismic family]] | * [[Pajara]] (+50/49) → [[Diaschismic family #Pajara|Diaschismic family]] | ||
* [[Augene]] (+126/125) → [[Augmented family # | * [[Augene]] (+126/125) → [[Augmented family #Septimal augmented (augene)|Augmented family]] | ||
* [[Porcupine]] (+250/243) → [[Porcupine family #Septimal porcupine|Porcupine family]] | * [[Porcupine]] (+250/243) → [[Porcupine family #Septimal porcupine|Porcupine family]] | ||
* | * [[Modus]] (+4375/4374) → [[Tetracot family #Modus|Tetracot family]] | ||
* ''[[Brightstone]]'' (+3125/3024) → [[Magic family #Brightstone|Magic family]] | * ''[[Brightstone]]'' (+3125/3024) → [[Magic family #Brightstone|Magic family]] | ||
* ''[[Passion]]'' (+3125/3087) → [[Passion family #Septimal passion|Passion family]] | * ''[[Passion]]'' (+3125/3087) → [[Passion family #Septimal passion|Passion family]] | ||
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* ''[[Catalan]]'' (+15625/15552) → [[Kleismic family #Catalan|Kleismic family]] | * ''[[Catalan]]'' (+15625/15552) → [[Kleismic family #Catalan|Kleismic family]] | ||
Considered below are superpyth, quasisuper, ultrapyth, quasiultra, schism, beatles, progress, fervor, and sixix. | Considered below are superpyth, quasisuper, ultrapyth, quasiultra, schism, beatles, progress, fervor, and sixix. | ||
==== Subgroup extensions ==== | ==== Subgroup extensions ==== | ||
Omitting prime 5, archy can be extended to the 2.3.7.11 subgroup by identifying 11/8 as a diminished fourth ( | Omitting prime 5, archy can be extended to the 2.3.7.11 subgroup by identifying 11/8 as a diminished fourth (C–G♭). This is called supra, given right below. Discussed elsewhere is [[suhajira]] of the [[rastmic clan #Suhajira|rastmic clan]]. | ||
=== Supra === | === Supra === | ||
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==== Supraphon ==== | ==== Supraphon ==== | ||
This extension maps [[13/11]] to the minor third (C–E♭), [[12/11]][[~]][[14/13]] to the augmented unison (C–C♯), and [[13/12]] to the diminished third (C–E𝄫). | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13 | ||
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: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–diatonic equivalence continuum #Superpyth (5-limit)]].'' | : ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–diatonic equivalence continuum #Superpyth (5-limit)]].'' | ||
Superpyth, virtually the canonical extension, adds [[245/243]] and [[1728/1715]] to the comma list and can be described as {{nowrap| 22 & 27 }}. ~5/4 is found at +9 generator steps, as an augmented second ( | Superpyth, virtually the canonical extension, adds [[245/243]] and [[1728/1715]] to the comma list and can be described as {{nowrap| [[22edo|22]] [[&]] [[27edo|27]] }}. ~[[5/4]] is found at +9 generator steps, as an augmented second (C–D♯). In the [[11-limit]] it finds the ~[[11/8]] at +16 generator steps, as a double-augmented second (C–D𝄪). [[49edo]] remains an obvious tuning choice in either case. | ||
Extending superpyth to the [[13-limit]] is more diffcult. Tridecimal superpyth finds the ~[[13/8]] at +13 generator steps, as a double-augmented fourth (C–F𝄪), for which 27edo can be recommended as a tuning since it is the only [[13-odd-limit]] [[diamond monotone]] tuning. The other extension, called uberpyth, is more flexible with its tunings, but unfortunately tends to tune the 13 very sharp. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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=== 11-limit === | === 11-limit === | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* WE: ~2 = 1196. | * WE: ~2 = 1196.6666{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.3602{{c}} | ||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200. | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 710.2878{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22f, 27e, 49f }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22f, 27e, 49f, 125bcddeeeff, 174bbcdddeeeeffff }} | ||
Badness (Sintel): 1. | Badness (Sintel): 1.11 | ||
==== Thomas ==== | ==== Thomas ==== | ||
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=== Suprapyth === | === Suprapyth === | ||
Suprapyth finds the ~11/8 at the diminished fifth ( | Suprapyth finds the ~11/8 at the diminished fifth (C–G♭), and finds the ~13/8 at the diminished seventh (C–B𝄫). | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
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== Quasisuper == | == Quasisuper == | ||
Quasisuper can be described as {{nowrap| 17c & 22 }}, with the ~5/4 mapped to -13 generator steps, as a double-diminished fifth ( | {{Main|Quasisuper}} | ||
Quasisuper can be described as {{nowrap| 17c & 22 }}, with the ~5/4 mapped to -13 generator steps, as a double-diminished fifth (C–G𝄫). The 11-limit version, quasisupra, can be viewed as an extension of the excellent 2.3.7.11-subgroup temperament [[supra]], with the quasisuper mapping of 5 thrown in, rather than the superpyth mapping of 5 (which results in suprapyth). | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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=== Quasisupra === | === Quasisupra === | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
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== Ultrapyth == | == Ultrapyth == | ||
{{Main| Ultrapyth }} | {{Main| Ultrapyth }} | ||
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–diatonic equivalence continuum #Ultrapyth (5-limit)]].'' | |||
Ultrapyth can be viewed as an extension of the excellent 2.3.7.13/5 [[the Biosphere #Oceanfront|oceanfront]] temperament, mapping the ~5/4 to +14 fifths as a double-augmented unison ( | Ultrapyth can be viewed as an extension of the excellent 2.3.7.13/5 [[the Biosphere #Oceanfront|oceanfront]] temperament, mapping the ~5/4 to +14 fifths as a double-augmented unison (C–C𝄪). | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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== Quasiultra == | == Quasiultra == | ||
Quasiultra is to ultrapyth what quasisuper is to superpyth. It is the {{nowrap| 27 & 32 }} temperament, mapping the ~5/4 to -18 fifths as a double diminished sixth ( | Quasiultra is to ultrapyth what quasisuper is to superpyth. It is the {{nowrap| 27 & 32 }} temperament, mapping the ~5/4 to -18 fifths as a double diminished sixth (C–A𝄫♭). | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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{{See also| Schismatic family #Schism }} | {{See also| Schismatic family #Schism }} | ||
Schism tempers out the [[schisma]], mapping the ~5/4 to -8 fifths as a diminished fourth ( | Schism tempers out the [[schisma]], mapping the ~5/4 to -8 fifths as a diminished fourth (C–F♭) as does any schismic temperament. 12edo is recommendable tuning, though 29edo (29d val), 41edo (41d val), and 53edo (53dd val) can be used. | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||