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The '''archytas clan''' (or '''archy family''') [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[64/63|Archytas' comma]], 64/63. This means a stack of two [[3/2]] fifths [[octave reduction|octave-reduced]] equals a whole tone of [[8/7]]~[[9/8]] tempered together; two of these tones or equivalently four stacked fifths octave-reduced equal a [[9/7]] major third. Note the similarity in function to [[81/80]] in meantone, where four stacked fifths octave-reduced equal a [[5/4]] major third. This leads to tunings with 3's and 7's quite sharp, such as those of [[22edo]]. | The '''archytas clan''' (or '''archy family''') [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[64/63|Archytas' comma]], 64/63. This means a stack of two [[3/2]] fifths [[octave reduction|octave-reduced]] equals a whole tone of [[8/7]][[~]][[9/8]] tempered together; two of these tones or equivalently four stacked fifths octave-reduced equal a [[9/7]] major third. Note the similarity in function to [[81/80]] in meantone, where four stacked fifths octave-reduced equal a [[5/4]] major third. This leads to tunings with 3's and 7's quite sharp, such as those of [[22edo]], [[27edo]], or [[49edo]]. | ||
This article focuses on rank-2 temperaments. See [[Archytas family]] for the [[rank-3 temperament]] resulting from tempering out 64/63 alone in the full 7-limit. | This article focuses on rank-2 temperaments. See [[Archytas family]] for the [[rank-3 temperament]] resulting from tempering out 64/63 alone in the full 7-limit. | ||
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{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 6 | 0 1 -2 }} | {{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 6 | 0 1 -2 }} | ||
{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 0 0 6 | 0 1 0 -2 }} | |||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3 | |||
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[[Optimal tuning]]s: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[ | * [[WE]]: ~2 = 1196.9552{{c}}, ~3/2 = 707.5215{{c}} | ||
: [[error map]]: {{val| | : [[error map]]: {{val| -3.045 +2.522 +3.952 }} | ||
* [[ | * [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 709.3901{{c}} | ||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +7. | : error map: {{val| 0.000 +7.435 +12.394 }} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 3, 5, 12, 17, 22, 137bdd, 159bddd, 181bbddd }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 3, 5, 12, 17, 22, 137bdd, 159bddd, 181bbddd }} | ||
[[Badness]] ( | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.159 | ||
Scales: [[archy5]], [[archy7]], [[archy12]] | Scales: [[archy5]], [[archy7]], [[archy12]] | ||
=== Overview to extensions === | === Overview to extensions === | ||
==== 7-limit extensions ==== | |||
The second comma in the comma list defines which [[7-limit]] family member we are looking at: | |||
* [[#Schism|Schism]] adds [[360/343]], for a tuning around [[12edo]]; | |||
* [[Meantone family #Dominant|Dominant]] adds [[36/35]], for a tuning between [[12edo]] and [[17edo|17c-edo]]; | |||
* [[#Quasisuper|Quasisuper]] adds [[2430/2401]], for a tuning between 17c-edo and [[22edo]]; | |||
* [[#Superpyth|Superpyth]] adds [[245/243]], for a tuning between 22edo and [[27edo]]; | |||
* [[#Quasiultra|Quasiultra]] adds [[33614/32805]], for a tuning between 27edo and [[32edo]]; | |||
* [[#Ultrapyth|Ultrapyth]] adds [[6860/6561]], for a tuning sharp of 32edo; | |||
* Mother adds [[16/15]], for an exotemperament well tuned around [[5edo]]. | |||
[[686/675]] gives beatles | These all use the same generators as archy. | ||
[[25/24]] gives dichotic. [[686/675]] gives beatles. Those split the fifth in two. [[8748/8575]] gives immunized, splitting the twelfth in two. [[50/49]] gives pajara with a semioctave period. [[392/375]] gives progress, splitting the twelfth in three. [[250/243]] gives porcupine, splitting the fourth in three. [[126/125]] gives augene with a 1/3-octave period. [[4375/4374]] gives modus, splitting the fifth in four. [[3125/3024]] gives brightstone. [[9604/9375]] gives fervor. [[3125/2916]] gives sixix. [[3125/3087]] gives passion. Those split the generator in five in various ways. [[28/27]] gives blackwood with a 1/5-octave period. Finally, [[15625/15552]] gives catalan, splitting the twelfth in six. | |||
Temperaments discussed elsewhere are: | Temperaments discussed elsewhere are: | ||
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* [[Dominant (temperament)|Dominant]] (+36/35) → [[Meantone family #Dominant|Meantone family]] | * [[Dominant (temperament)|Dominant]] (+36/35) → [[Meantone family #Dominant|Meantone family]] | ||
* ''[[Medusa]]'' (+15/14) → [[Very low accuracy temperaments #Medusa|Very low accuracy temperaments]] | * ''[[Medusa]]'' (+15/14) → [[Very low accuracy temperaments #Medusa|Very low accuracy temperaments]] | ||
* ''[[ | * ''[[Dichotic]]'' (+25/24) → [[Dicot family #Dichotic|Dicot family]] | ||
* ''[[Immunized]]'' (+8748/8575) → [[Immunity family #Immunized|Immunity family]] | * ''[[Immunized]]'' (+8748/8575) → [[Immunity family #Immunized|Immunity family]] | ||
* [[Pajara]] (+50/49) → [[Diaschismic family #Pajara|Diaschismic family]] | * [[Pajara]] (+50/49) → [[Diaschismic family #Pajara|Diaschismic family]] | ||
* [[Augene]] (+126/125) → [[Augmented family # | * [[Augene]] (+126/125) → [[Augmented family #Septimal augmented (augene)|Augmented family]] | ||
* [[Porcupine]] (+250/243) → [[Porcupine family #Septimal porcupine|Porcupine family]] | * [[Porcupine]] (+250/243) → [[Porcupine family #Septimal porcupine|Porcupine family]] | ||
* | * [[Modus]] (+4375/4374) → [[Tetracot family #Modus|Tetracot family]] | ||
* ''[[Brightstone]]'' (+3125/3024) → [[Magic family #Brightstone|Magic family]] | * ''[[Brightstone]]'' (+3125/3024) → [[Magic family #Brightstone|Magic family]] | ||
* ''[[Passion]]'' (+3125/3087) → [[Passion family #Septimal passion|Passion family]] | * ''[[Passion]]'' (+3125/3087) → [[Passion family #Septimal passion|Passion family]] | ||
* | * [[Blackwood]] (+28/27) → [[Limmic temperaments #Blackwood|Limmic temperaments]] | ||
* ''[[Catalan]]'' (+15625/15552) → [[Kleismic family #Catalan|Kleismic family]] | * ''[[Catalan]]'' (+15625/15552) → [[Kleismic family #Catalan|Kleismic family]] | ||
Considered below are superpyth, quasisuper, ultrapyth, quasiultra, schism, beatles, progress, fervor, and sixix. | Considered below are superpyth, quasisuper, ultrapyth, quasiultra, schism, beatles, progress, fervor, and sixix. | ||
==== Subgroup extensions ==== | |||
Omitting prime 5, archy can be extended to the 2.3.7.11 subgroup by identifying 11/8 as a diminished fourth (C–G♭). This is called supra, given right below. Discussed elsewhere is [[suhajira]] of the [[rastmic clan #Suhajira|rastmic clan]]. | |||
=== Supra === | === Supra === | ||
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Comma list: 64/63, 99/98 | Comma list: 64/63, 99/98 | ||
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 6 13 | 0 1 -2 -6 }} | |||
Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 | Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 6 13 | 0 1 0 -2 -6 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1197.2650{{c}}, ~3/2 = 705.5803{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 707.4981{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 12, 17, 39d, 56d }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 12, 17, 39d, 56d }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 0.352 | ||
Scales: [[supra7]], [[supra12]] | Scales: [[supra7]], [[supra12]] | ||
==== Supraphon ==== | ==== Supraphon ==== | ||
This extension maps [[13/11]] to the minor third (C–E♭), [[12/11]][[~]][[14/13]] to the augmented unison (C–C♯), and [[13/12]] to the diminished third (C–E𝄫). | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13 | ||
Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 99/98 | Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 99/98 | ||
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 6 13 18 | 0 1 -2 -6 -9 }} | |||
Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 | Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 6 13 18 | 0 1 0 -2 -6 -9 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1197.1909{{c}}, ~3/2 = 704.4836{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 706.4289{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 17 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 17 }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 0.498 | ||
Scales: [[supra7]], [[supra12]] | Scales: [[supra7]], [[supra12]] | ||
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: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–diatonic equivalence continuum #Superpyth (5-limit)]].'' | : ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–diatonic equivalence continuum #Superpyth (5-limit)]].'' | ||
Superpyth adds [[245/243]] and [[1728/1715]] to the comma list and can be described as 22 & 27. ~5/4 is found at +9 generator steps, as an augmented second ( | Superpyth, virtually the canonical extension, adds [[245/243]] and [[1728/1715]] to the comma list and can be described as {{nowrap| [[22edo|22]] [[&]] [[27edo|27]] }}. ~[[5/4]] is found at +9 generator steps, as an augmented second (C–D♯). In the [[11-limit]] it finds the ~[[11/8]] at +16 generator steps, as a double-augmented second (C–D𝄪). [[49edo]] remains an obvious tuning choice in either case. | ||
Extending superpyth to the [[13-limit]] is more diffcult. Tridecimal superpyth finds the ~[[13/8]] at +13 generator steps, as a double-augmented fourth (C–F𝄪), for which 27edo can be recommended as a tuning since it is the only [[13-odd-limit]] [[diamond monotone]] tuning. The other extension, called uberpyth, is more flexible with its tunings, but unfortunately tends to tune the 13 very sharp. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -12 6 | 0 1 9 -2 }} | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -12 6 | 0 1 9 -2 }} | ||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[ | * [[WE]]: ~2 = 1197.0549{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.5478{{c}} | ||
: [[error map]]: {{val| | : [[error map]]: {{val| -2.945 +3.648 -0.548 +2.298 }} | ||
* [[ | * [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 710.1193{{c}} | ||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +8. | : error map: {{val| 0.000 +8.164 +4.760 +10.935 }} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 17, 22, 27, 49, 174bbcddd }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 17, 22, 27, 49, 174bbcddd }} | ||
[[Badness]] ( | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.818 | ||
=== 11-limit === | === 11-limit === | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1197.0673{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.4391{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 710.0129{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22, 27e, 49 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22, 27e, 49 }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 0.826 | ||
==== 13-limit ==== | ==== 13-limit ==== | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1197.3011{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.8813{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 710.3219{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22, 27e, 49, 76bcde }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22, 27e, 49, 76bcde }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.02 | ||
==== Uberpyth ==== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 144/143, 245/243 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -12 6 -22 26 | 0 1 9 -2 16 -14 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1196.6666{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.3602{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 710.2878{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22f, 27e, 49f, 125bcddeeeff, 174bbcdddeeeeffff }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.11 | |||
==== Thomas ==== | ==== Thomas ==== | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1197.4942{{c}}, ~16/13 = 354.2950{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~16/13 = 354.9824{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 27e, 44, 71d, 98bde }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 27e, 44, 71d, 98bde }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 2.03 | ||
=== Suprapyth === | === Suprapyth === | ||
Suprapyth finds the ~11/8 at the diminished fifth ( | Suprapyth finds the ~11/8 at the diminished fifth (C–G♭), and finds the ~13/8 at the diminished seventh (C–B𝄫). | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1198.6960{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.7235{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 709.4699{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 17, 22 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 17, 22 }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.08 | ||
==== 13-limit ==== | ==== 13-limit ==== | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1199.9871{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.6952{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.7028{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5f, 17, 22 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5f, 17, 22 }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.50 | ||
== Quasisuper == | == Quasisuper == | ||
Quasisuper can be described as 17c & 22, with the ~5/4 mapped to -13 generator steps, as a double diminished fifth ( | {{Main|Quasisuper}} | ||
Quasisuper can be described as {{nowrap| 17c & 22 }}, with the ~5/4 mapped to -13 generator steps, as a double-diminished fifth (C–G𝄫). The 11-limit version, quasisupra, can be viewed as an extension of the excellent 2.3.7.11-subgroup temperament [[supra]], with the quasisuper mapping of 5 thrown in, rather than the superpyth mapping of 5 (which results in suprapyth). | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 23 6 | 0 1 -13 -2 }} | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 23 6 | 0 1 -13 -2 }} | ||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[ | * [[WE]]: ~2 = 1196.9830{{c}}, ~3/2 = 706.4578{{c}} | ||
: [[error map]]: {{val| | : [[error map]]: {{val| -3.017 +1.486 -0.435 +6.190 }} | ||
* [[ | * [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.3716{{c}} | ||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +6. | : error map: {{val| 0.000 +6.417 +4.855 +14.431 }} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 17c, 22, 61d }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 17c, 22, 61d }} | ||
[[Badness]] ( | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.61 | ||
=== Quasisupra === | === Quasisupra === | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1197.5675{{c}}, ~3/2 = 706.7690{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.3200{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 17c, 22, 39d, 61d }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 17c, 22, 39d, 61d }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.06 | ||
==== 13-limit ==== | ==== 13-limit ==== | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1198.2543{{c}}, ~3/2 = 706.9736{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.0936{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 17c, 22, 39d | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 17c, 22, 39d }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.25 | ||
=== Quasisoup === | === Quasisoup === | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1198.8446{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.3388{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.0252{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22 }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 2.76 | ||
== Ultrapyth == | == Ultrapyth == | ||
Ultrapyth can be viewed as an extension of the excellent 2.3.7.13/5 [[ | {{Main| Ultrapyth }} | ||
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–diatonic equivalence continuum #Ultrapyth (5-limit)]].'' | |||
Ultrapyth can be viewed as an extension of the excellent 2.3.7.13/5 [[the Biosphere #Oceanfront|oceanfront]] temperament, mapping the ~5/4 to +14 fifths as a double-augmented unison (C–C𝄪). | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -20 6 | 0 1 14 -2 }} | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -20 6 | 0 1 14 -2 }} | ||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[ | * [[WE]]: ~2 = 1197.2673{{c}}, ~3/2 = 712.0258{{c}} | ||
: [[error map]]: {{val| | : [[error map]]: {{val| -2.733 +7.338 -1.557 -3.808 }} | ||
* [[ | * [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 713.5430{{c}} | ||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +11. | : error map: {{val| 0.000 +11.588 +3.288 +4.088 }} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 27c, 32, 37 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 27c, 32, 37 }} | ||
[[Badness]] ( | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.74 | ||
=== 11-limit === | === 11-limit === | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1198.0290{{c}}, ~3/2 = 712.2235{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 713.3754{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 32, 37 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 32, 37 }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 2.26 | ||
==== 13-limit ==== | ==== 13-limit ==== | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1198.1911{{c}}, ~3/2 = 712.4243{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 713.4684{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 32, 37 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 32, 37 }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 2.03 | ||
=== Ultramarine === | === Ultramarine === | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1197.2230{{c}}, ~3/2 = 712.1393{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 713.6928{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5e, 32e, 37, 79bce }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5e, 32e, 37, 79bce }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 2.58 | ||
==== 13-limit ==== | ==== 13-limit ==== | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1197.2739{{c}}, ~3/2 = 712.1893{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 713.7079{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5e, 32e, 37, 79bcef }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5e, 32e, 37, 79bcef }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.89 | ||
== Quasiultra == | == Quasiultra == | ||
Quasiultra is to ultrapyth what quasisuper is to superpyth. It is the 27 & 32 temperament, mapping the ~5/4 to -18 fifths as a double diminished sixth ( | Quasiultra is to ultrapyth what quasisuper is to superpyth. It is the {{nowrap| 27 & 32 }} temperament, mapping the ~5/4 to -18 fifths as a double diminished sixth (C–A𝄫♭). | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 31 6 | 0 1 -18 -2 }} | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 31 6 | 0 1 -18 -2 }} | ||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[ | * [[WE]]: ~2 = 1196.9257{{c}}, ~3/2 = 709.6211{{c}} | ||
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0.000 +9.883 +0.608 +7.499 }} | : [[error map]]: {{val| 0.000 +9.883 +0.608 +7.499 }} | ||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200. | * [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 711.5429{{c}} | ||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +9.588 +5.914 +8.088 }} | : error map: {{val| 0.000 +9.588 +5.914 +8.088 }} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 27, 86bd, 113bcd, 140bbcd }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 27, 86bd, 113bcd, 140bbcd }} | ||
[[Badness]] ( | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 3.34 | ||
== Schism == | == Schism == | ||
{{See also| Schismatic family #Schism }} | {{See also| Schismatic family #Schism }} | ||
Schism tempers out the [[schisma]], mapping the ~5/4 to -8 fifths as a diminished fourth ( | Schism tempers out the [[schisma]], mapping the ~5/4 to -8 fifths as a diminished fourth (C–F♭) as does any schismic temperament. 12edo is recommendable tuning, though 29edo (29d val), 41edo (41d val), and 53edo (53dd val) can be used. | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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[[Optimal tuning]]s: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[ | * [[WE]]: ~2 = 1197.3598{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.0126{{c}} | ||
: [[error map]]: {{val| | : [[error map]]: {{val| -2.640 -4.583 -4.896 +20.588 }} | ||
* [[ | * [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.7376{{c}} | ||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0. | : error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.217 -0.214 +27.699 }} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5c, 7c, 12 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5c, 7c, 12 }} | ||
[[Badness]] ( | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.43 | ||
=== 11-limit === | === 11-limit === | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1196.1607{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.8897{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.4385{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5c, 7ce, 12, 29de }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5c, 7ce, 12, 29de }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.24 | ||
== Beatles == | == Beatles == | ||
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Beatles]].'' | : ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Beatles]].'' | ||
Beatles tempers out 686/675, which may also be characterized by saying it tempers out [[2401/2400]]. It may be described as the {{nowrap| 10 & 17c }} temperament. It splits the fifth into two neutral-third generators of 49/40~60/49; its [[ploidacot]] is dicot. 5/4 may be found at -9 generator steps, as a semidiminished fourth (C–Fd). 27edo is an obvious tuning, though 17c-edo and 37edo are among the possibilities. | |||
Beatles extends easily to the no-11 13-limit, as the generator can be interpreted as ~16/13, tempering out 91/90, 169/168, and 196/195. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 5 4 | 0 2 -9 -4 }} | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 5 4 | 0 2 -9 -4 }} | ||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[ | * [[WE]]: ~2 = 1196.6244{{c}}, ~49/40 = 354.9029{{c}} | ||
: [[error map]]: {{val| | : [[error map]]: {{val| -3.376 +4.475 +2.682 -1.940 }} | ||
* [[ | * [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~49/40 = 356.0819{{c}} | ||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 + | : error map: {{val| 0.000 +10.209 +8.949 +6.847 }} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 17c, 27, 64b, 91bcd, 118bccd }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 17c, 27, 64b, 91bcd, 118bccd }} | ||
[[Badness]] ( | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.16 | ||
; Music | ; Music | ||
* [http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/gene_ward_smith/Others/Herman/beatles-improv.mp3 ''Beatles Improv''] by [[Herman Miller]] | * [https://web.archive.org/web/20201127013829/http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/gene_ward_smith/Others/Herman/beatles-improv.mp3 ''Beatles Improv''] by [[Herman Miller]] | ||
=== 11-limit === | === 11-limit === | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1196.7001{{c}}, ~49/40 = 355.1606{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~49/40 = 356.2795{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10e, 17cee, 27e, 64be, 91bcdee }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10e, 17cee, 27e, 64be, 91bcdee }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.51 | ||
==== 13-limit ==== | ==== 13-limit ==== | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1197.2504{{c}}, ~16/13 = 355.4132{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~16/13 = 356.3273{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10e, 27e, 37, 64be }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10e, 27e, 37, 64be }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.25 | ||
=== Ringo === | === Ringo === | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1195.4102{{c}}, ~11/9 = 354.0597{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/9 = 355.5207{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 17c, 27e }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 17c, 27e }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.09 | ||
==== 13-limit ==== | ==== 13-limit ==== | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1195.9943{{c}}, ~11/9 = 354.2695{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~11/9 = 355.5398{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 17c, 27e }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 17c, 27e }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 0.935 | ||
=== Beetle === | === Beetle === | ||
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Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 686/675 | Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 686/675 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 5 4 -1 | 0 2 -9 -4 15}} | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 5 4 -1 | 0 2 -9 -4 15 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1197.9660{{c}}, ~49/40 = 356.1056{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~49/40 = 356.7075{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 27, 37 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 27, 37 }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.92 | ||
==== 13-limit ==== | ==== 13-limit ==== | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1198.1741{{c}}, ~16/13 = 356.1582{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~16/13 = 356.7008{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 27, 37 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 27, 37 }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.40 | ||
== Progress == | == Progress == | ||
{{Distinguish| Progression }} | |||
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Progress]].'' | : ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Progress]].'' | ||
Progress tempers out 392/375 and may be described as {{nowrap| 15 & 17c }}. It splits the perfect twelfth into three generators of ~10/7; its ploidacot is alpha-tricot. 32c-edo gives an obvious tuning. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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: mapping generators: ~2, ~10/7 | : mapping generators: ~2, ~10/7 | ||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[ | * [[WE]]: ~2 = 1195.1377{{c}}, ~10/7 = 635.2932{{c}} | ||
: [[error map]]: {{val| | : [[error map]]: {{val| -4.862 +3.925 +12.908 -9.759 }} | ||
* [[ | * [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 638.0791{{c}} | ||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 + | : error map: {{val| 0.000 +12.282 +23.291 +2.700 }} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 13, 15, 32c }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 13, 15, 32c }} | ||
[[Badness]] ( | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.68 | ||
=== 11-limit === | === 11-limit === | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1195.4920{{c}}, ~10/7 = 635.5183{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 638.0884{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 2, 13, 15, 32c, 47bc }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 2, 13, 15, 32c, 47bc }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.03 | ||
==== 13-limit ==== | ==== 13-limit ==== | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1195.0786{{c}}, ~10/7 = 635.0197{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 637.6691{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 17c, 32cf }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15, 17c, 32cf }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.08 | ||
==== Progressive ==== | ==== Progressive ==== | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1196.0245{{c}}, ~10/7 = 634.6516{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 636.9528{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 2f, 15f, 17c }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 2f, 15f, 17c }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.35 | ||
== Fervor == | == Fervor == | ||
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Fervor]].'' | : ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Fervor]].'' | ||
Fervor tempers out 9704/9375 and may be described as {{nowrap| 25 & 27 }}. It splits the 6th harmonic into five generators of ~10/7; its ploidacot is beta-pentacot. 27edo is about as accurate as it can be tuned. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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[[Comma list]]: 64/63, 9604/9375 | [[Comma list]]: 64/63, 9604/9375 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -1 7 8 | 0 5 -9 -10 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~7 | : mapping generators: ~2, ~10/7 | ||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[ | * [[WE]]: ~2 = 1196.2742{{c}}, ~10/7 = 620.2918{{c}} | ||
: [[error map]]: {{val| | : [[error map]]: {{val| -3.726 +3.230 +4.980 -1.550 }} | ||
* [[ | * [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 622.3179{{c}} | ||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +9. | : error map: {{val| 0.000 +9.634 +12.826 +7.996 }} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 25, 27 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 25, 27 }} | ||
[[Badness]] ( | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.74 | ||
=== 11-limit === | === 11-limit === | ||
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Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 1350/1331 | Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 1350/1331 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 4 | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 7 8 4 | 0 5 -9 -10 -1 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1195.4148{{c}}, ~10/7 = 619.7729{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 622.2525{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 2, 25e, 27e }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 2, 25e, 27e }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.72 | ||
=== 13-limit === | === 13-limit === | ||
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Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 78/77, 507/500 | Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 78/77, 507/500 | ||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 7 8 4 12 | 0 5 -9 -10 -1 -16 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1195.6284{{c}}, ~10/7 = 619.6738{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 622.0631{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 2f, 27e }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 2f, 27e }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.64 | ||
== Sixix == | == Sixix == | ||
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{{See also| Dual-fifth temperaments #Dual-3 Sixix }} | {{See also| Dual-fifth temperaments #Dual-3 Sixix }} | ||
Sixix is related to the [[kleismic family]] in a way similar to the one between [[meantone]] and [[mavila]]. In both cases the generator is nominally a 6/5 and the complexity to generate major and minor chords is the same, but in sixix it is tuned extremely sharply, to the point where the 3rd and 5th harmonics are reached by going down instead of up, inverting the logic of chord construction. | Sixix tempers out 3125/2916 and may be described as {{nowrap| 25 & 32 }}. It is related to the [[kleismic family]] in a way similar to the one between [[meantone]] and [[mavila]]. In both cases the generator is nominally a 6/5 and the complexity to generate major and minor chords is the same, but in sixix it is tuned extremely sharply, to the point where the 3rd and 5th harmonics are reached by going down instead of up, inverting the logic of chord construction. Its ploidacot is gamma-pentacot. | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 3 4 0 | 0 -5 -6 10 }} | {{Mapping|legend=1| 1 3 4 0 | 0 -5 -6 10 }} | ||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[ | * [[WE]]: ~2 = 1198.9028{{c}}, ~6/5 = 337.1334{{c}} | ||
: [[error map]]: {{val| | : [[error map]]: {{val| -1.097 +9.086 -13.503 +2.508 }} | ||
* [[ | * [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 337.4588{{c}} | ||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +10. | : error map: {{val| 0.000 +10.751 -11.066 +5.762 }} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 18d, 25, 32 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 18d, 25, 32 }} | ||
[[Badness]] ( | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 4.02 | ||
=== 11-limit === | === 11-limit === | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1198.5480{{c}}, ~6/5 = 337.1557{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 337.6000{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 25e, 32 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 25e, 32 }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 2.34 | ||
=== 13-limit === | === 13-limit === | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1197.7111{{c}}, ~6/5 = 336.8391{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 337.5336{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 25e, 32f }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 25e, 32f }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 1.91 | ||
=== 17-limit === | === 17-limit === | ||
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Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
* | * WE: ~2 = 1197.7807{{c}}, ~6/5 = 336.8884{{c}} | ||
* | * CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 337.5279{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 25e, 32f }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 25e, 32f }} | ||
Badness ( | Badness (Sintel): 2.00 | ||
[[Category:Archytas clan| ]] <!-- main article --> | [[Category:Archytas clan| ]] <!-- main article --> | ||
[[Category:Temperament clans]] | [[Category:Temperament clans]] | ||
[[Category:Rank 2]] | [[Category:Rank 2]] | ||
Latest revision as of 10:06, 29 May 2026
- This is a list showing technical temperament data. For an explanation of what information is shown here, you may look at the technical data guide for regular temperaments.
The archytas clan (or archy family) tempers out the Archytas' comma, 64/63. This means a stack of two 3/2 fifths octave-reduced equals a whole tone of 8/7~9/8 tempered together; two of these tones or equivalently four stacked fifths octave-reduced equal a 9/7 major third. Note the similarity in function to 81/80 in meantone, where four stacked fifths octave-reduced equal a 5/4 major third. This leads to tunings with 3's and 7's quite sharp, such as those of 22edo, 27edo, or 49edo.
This article focuses on rank-2 temperaments. See Archytas family for the rank-3 temperament resulting from tempering out 64/63 alone in the full 7-limit.
Archy
Subgroup: 2.3.7
Comma list: 64/63
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 0 6], ⟨0 1 -2]]
Gencom mapping: [⟨1 0 0 6], ⟨0 1 0 -2]]
- mapping generators: ~2, ~3
- WE: ~2 = 1196.9552 ¢, ~3/2 = 707.5215 ¢
- error map: ⟨-3.045 +2.522 +3.952]
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 709.3901 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 +7.435 +12.394]
Optimal ET sequence: 2, 3, 5, 12, 17, 22, 137bdd, 159bddd, 181bbddd
Badness (Sintel): 0.159
Scales: archy5, archy7, archy12
Overview to extensions
7-limit extensions
The second comma in the comma list defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at:
- Schism adds 360/343, for a tuning around 12edo;
- Dominant adds 36/35, for a tuning between 12edo and 17c-edo;
- Quasisuper adds 2430/2401, for a tuning between 17c-edo and 22edo;
- Superpyth adds 245/243, for a tuning between 22edo and 27edo;
- Quasiultra adds 33614/32805, for a tuning between 27edo and 32edo;
- Ultrapyth adds 6860/6561, for a tuning sharp of 32edo;
- Mother adds 16/15, for an exotemperament well tuned around 5edo.
These all use the same generators as archy.
25/24 gives dichotic. 686/675 gives beatles. Those split the fifth in two. 8748/8575 gives immunized, splitting the twelfth in two. 50/49 gives pajara with a semioctave period. 392/375 gives progress, splitting the twelfth in three. 250/243 gives porcupine, splitting the fourth in three. 126/125 gives augene with a 1/3-octave period. 4375/4374 gives modus, splitting the fifth in four. 3125/3024 gives brightstone. 9604/9375 gives fervor. 3125/2916 gives sixix. 3125/3087 gives passion. Those split the generator in five in various ways. 28/27 gives blackwood with a 1/5-octave period. Finally, 15625/15552 gives catalan, splitting the twelfth in six.
Temperaments discussed elsewhere are:
- Mother (+16/15) → Father family
- Dominant (+36/35) → Meantone family
- Medusa (+15/14) → Very low accuracy temperaments
- Dichotic (+25/24) → Dicot family
- Immunized (+8748/8575) → Immunity family
- Pajara (+50/49) → Diaschismic family
- Augene (+126/125) → Augmented family
- Porcupine (+250/243) → Porcupine family
- Modus (+4375/4374) → Tetracot family
- Brightstone (+3125/3024) → Magic family
- Passion (+3125/3087) → Passion family
- Blackwood (+28/27) → Limmic temperaments
- Catalan (+15625/15552) → Kleismic family
Considered below are superpyth, quasisuper, ultrapyth, quasiultra, schism, beatles, progress, fervor, and sixix.
Subgroup extensions
Omitting prime 5, archy can be extended to the 2.3.7.11 subgroup by identifying 11/8 as a diminished fourth (C–G♭). This is called supra, given right below. Discussed elsewhere is suhajira of the rastmic clan.
Supra
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11
Comma list: 64/63, 99/98
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 0 6 13], ⟨0 1 -2 -6]]
Gencom mapping: [⟨1 0 0 6 13], ⟨0 1 0 -2 -6]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1197.2650 ¢, ~3/2 = 705.5803 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 707.4981 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 5, 12, 17, 39d, 56d
Badness (Sintel): 0.352
Supraphon
This extension maps 13/11 to the minor third (C–E♭), 12/11~14/13 to the augmented unison (C–C♯), and 13/12 to the diminished third (C–E𝄫).
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13
Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 99/98
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 0 6 13 18], ⟨0 1 -2 -6 -9]]
Gencom mapping: [⟨1 0 0 6 13 18], ⟨0 1 0 -2 -6 -9]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1197.1909 ¢, ~3/2 = 704.4836 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 706.4289 ¢
Badness (Sintel): 0.498
Superpyth
- For the 5-limit version, see Syntonic–diatonic equivalence continuum #Superpyth (5-limit).
Superpyth, virtually the canonical extension, adds 245/243 and 1728/1715 to the comma list and can be described as 22 & 27. ~5/4 is found at +9 generator steps, as an augmented second (C–D♯). In the 11-limit it finds the ~11/8 at +16 generator steps, as a double-augmented second (C–D𝄪). 49edo remains an obvious tuning choice in either case.
Extending superpyth to the 13-limit is more diffcult. Tridecimal superpyth finds the ~13/8 at +13 generator steps, as a double-augmented fourth (C–F𝄪), for which 27edo can be recommended as a tuning since it is the only 13-odd-limit diamond monotone tuning. The other extension, called uberpyth, is more flexible with its tunings, but unfortunately tends to tune the 13 very sharp.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 64/63, 245/243
Mapping: [⟨1 0 -12 6], ⟨0 1 9 -2]]
- WE: ~2 = 1197.0549 ¢, ~3/2 = 708.5478 ¢
- error map: ⟨-2.945 +3.648 -0.548 +2.298]
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 710.1193 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 +8.164 +4.760 +10.935]
Optimal ET sequence: 5, 17, 22, 27, 49, 174bbcddd
Badness (Sintel): 0.818
11-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 245/243
Mapping: [⟨1 0 -12 6 -22], ⟨0 1 9 -2 16]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1197.0673 ¢, ~3/2 = 708.4391 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 710.0129 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 22, 27e, 49
Badness (Sintel): 0.826
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 91/90, 100/99
Mapping: [⟨1 0 -12 6 -22 -17], ⟨0 1 9 -2 16 13]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1197.3011 ¢, ~3/2 = 708.8813 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 710.3219 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 22, 27e, 49, 76bcde
Badness (Sintel): 1.02
Uberpyth
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 144/143, 245/243
Mapping: [⟨1 0 -12 6 -22 26], ⟨0 1 9 -2 16 -14]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1196.6666 ¢, ~3/2 = 708.3602 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 710.2878 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 22f, 27e, 49f, 125bcddeeeff, 174bbcdddeeeeffff
Badness (Sintel): 1.11
Thomas
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 169/168, 245/243
Mapping: [⟨1 1 -3 4 -6 4], ⟨0 2 18 -4 32 -1]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1197.4942 ¢, ~16/13 = 354.2950 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~16/13 = 354.9824 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 27e, 44, 71d, 98bde
Badness (Sintel): 2.03
Suprapyth
Suprapyth finds the ~11/8 at the diminished fifth (C–G♭), and finds the ~13/8 at the diminished seventh (C–B𝄫).
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 99/98
Mapping: [⟨1 0 -12 6 13], ⟨0 1 9 -2 -6]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1198.6960 ¢, ~3/2 = 708.7235 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 709.4699 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 5, 17, 22
Badness (Sintel): 1.08
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 65/63, 99/98
Mapping: [⟨1 0 -12 6 13 18], ⟨0 1 9 -2 -6 -9]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1199.9871 ¢, ~3/2 = 708.6952 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 708.7028 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 5f, 17, 22
Badness (Sintel): 1.50
Quasisuper
Quasisuper can be described as 17c & 22, with the ~5/4 mapped to -13 generator steps, as a double-diminished fifth (C–G𝄫). The 11-limit version, quasisupra, can be viewed as an extension of the excellent 2.3.7.11-subgroup temperament supra, with the quasisuper mapping of 5 thrown in, rather than the superpyth mapping of 5 (which results in suprapyth).
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 64/63, 2430/2401
Mapping: [⟨1 0 23 6], ⟨0 1 -13 -2]]
- WE: ~2 = 1196.9830 ¢, ~3/2 = 706.4578 ¢
- error map: ⟨-3.017 +1.486 -0.435 +6.190]
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 708.3716 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 +6.417 +4.855 +14.431]
Optimal ET sequence: 17c, 22, 61d
Badness (Sintel): 1.61
Quasisupra
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 64/63, 99/98, 121/120
Mapping: [⟨1 0 23 6 13], ⟨0 1 -13 -2 -6]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1197.5675 ¢, ~3/2 = 706.7690 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 708.3200 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 17c, 22, 39d, 61d
Badness (Sintel): 1.06
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 91/90, 121/120
Mapping: [⟨1 0 23 6 13 18], ⟨0 1 -13 -2 -6 -9]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1198.2543 ¢, ~3/2 = 706.9736 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 708.0936 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 17c, 22, 39d
Badness (Sintel): 1.25
Quasisoup
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 2430/2401
Mapping: [⟨1 0 23 6 -22], ⟨0 1 -13 -2 16]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1198.8446 ¢, ~3/2 = 708.3388 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 708.0252 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 22
Badness (Sintel): 2.76
Ultrapyth
- For the 5-limit version, see Syntonic–diatonic equivalence continuum #Ultrapyth (5-limit).
Ultrapyth can be viewed as an extension of the excellent 2.3.7.13/5 oceanfront temperament, mapping the ~5/4 to +14 fifths as a double-augmented unison (C–C𝄪).
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 64/63, 6860/6561
Mapping: [⟨1 0 -20 6], ⟨0 1 14 -2]]
- WE: ~2 = 1197.2673 ¢, ~3/2 = 712.0258 ¢
- error map: ⟨-2.733 +7.338 -1.557 -3.808]
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 713.5430 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 +11.588 +3.288 +4.088]
Optimal ET sequence: 5, 27c, 32, 37
Badness (Sintel): 2.74
11-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 2401/2376
Mapping: [⟨1 0 -20 6 21], ⟨0 1 14 -2 -11]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1198.0290 ¢, ~3/2 = 712.2235 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 713.3754 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 5, 32, 37
Badness (Sintel): 2.26
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 91/90, 1573/1568
Mapping: [⟨1 0 -20 6 21 -25], ⟨0 1 14 -2 -11 18]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1198.1911 ¢, ~3/2 = 712.4243 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 713.4684 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 5, 32, 37
Badness (Sintel): 2.03
Ultramarine
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 3773/3645
Mapping: [⟨1 0 -20 6 -38], ⟨0 1 14 -2 26]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1197.2230 ¢, ~3/2 = 712.1393 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 713.6928 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 5e, 32e, 37, 79bce
Badness (Sintel): 2.58
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 64/63, 91/90, 100/99, 847/845
Mapping: [⟨1 0 -20 6 -38 -25], ⟨0 1 14 -2 26 18]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1197.2739 ¢, ~3/2 = 712.1893 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 713.7079 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 5e, 32e, 37, 79bcef
Badness (Sintel): 1.89
Quasiultra
Quasiultra is to ultrapyth what quasisuper is to superpyth. It is the 27 & 32 temperament, mapping the ~5/4 to -18 fifths as a double diminished sixth (C–A𝄫♭).
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 64/63, 33614/32805
Mapping: [⟨1 0 31 6], ⟨0 1 -18 -2]]
- WE: ~2 = 1196.9257 ¢, ~3/2 = 709.6211 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 +9.883 +0.608 +7.499]
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 711.5429 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 +9.588 +5.914 +8.088]
Optimal ET sequence: 27, 86bd, 113bcd, 140bbcd
Badness (Sintel): 3.34
Schism
Schism tempers out the schisma, mapping the ~5/4 to -8 fifths as a diminished fourth (C–F♭) as does any schismic temperament. 12edo is recommendable tuning, though 29edo (29d val), 41edo (41d val), and 53edo (53dd val) can be used.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 64/63, 360/343
Mapping: [⟨1 0 15 6], ⟨0 1 -8 -2]]
- WE: ~2 = 1197.3598 ¢, ~3/2 = 700.0126 ¢
- error map: ⟨-2.640 -4.583 -4.896 +20.588]
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.7376 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 -0.217 -0.214 +27.699]
Optimal ET sequence: 5c, 7c, 12
Badness (Sintel): 1.43
11-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 45/44, 64/63, 99/98
Mapping: [⟨1 0 15 6 13], ⟨0 1 -8 -2 -6]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1196.1607 ¢, ~3/2 = 699.8897 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.4385 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 5c, 7ce, 12, 29de
Badness (Sintel): 1.24
Beatles
- For the 5-limit version, see Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Beatles.
Beatles tempers out 686/675, which may also be characterized by saying it tempers out 2401/2400. It may be described as the 10 & 17c temperament. It splits the fifth into two neutral-third generators of 49/40~60/49; its ploidacot is dicot. 5/4 may be found at -9 generator steps, as a semidiminished fourth (C–Fd). 27edo is an obvious tuning, though 17c-edo and 37edo are among the possibilities.
Beatles extends easily to the no-11 13-limit, as the generator can be interpreted as ~16/13, tempering out 91/90, 169/168, and 196/195.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 64/63, 686/675
Mapping: [⟨1 1 5 4], ⟨0 2 -9 -4]]
- WE: ~2 = 1196.6244 ¢, ~49/40 = 354.9029 ¢
- error map: ⟨-3.376 +4.475 +2.682 -1.940]
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~49/40 = 356.0819 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 +10.209 +8.949 +6.847]
Optimal ET sequence: 10, 17c, 27, 64b, 91bcd, 118bccd
Badness (Sintel): 1.16
- Music
11-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 686/675
Mapping: [⟨1 1 5 4 10], ⟨0 2 -9 -4 -22]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1196.7001 ¢, ~49/40 = 355.1606 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~49/40 = 356.2795 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 10e, 17cee, 27e, 64be, 91bcdee
Badness (Sintel): 1.51
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 64/63, 91/90, 100/99, 169/168
Mapping: [⟨1 1 5 4 10 4], ⟨0 2 -9 -4 -22 -1]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1197.2504 ¢, ~16/13 = 355.4132 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~16/13 = 356.3273 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 10e, 27e, 37, 64be
Badness (Sintel): 1.25
Ringo
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 540/539
Mapping: [⟨1 1 5 4 2], ⟨0 2 -9 -4 5]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1195.4102 ¢, ~11/9 = 354.0597 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~11/9 = 355.5207 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 10, 17c, 27e
Badness (Sintel): 1.09
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 78/77, 91/90
Mapping: [⟨1 1 5 4 2 4], ⟨0 2 -9 -4 5 -1]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1195.9943 ¢, ~11/9 = 354.2695 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~11/9 = 355.5398 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 10, 17c, 27e
Badness (Sintel): 0.935
Beetle
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 686/675
Mapping: [⟨1 1 5 4 -1], ⟨0 2 -9 -4 15]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1197.9660 ¢, ~49/40 = 356.1056 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~49/40 = 356.7075 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 10, 27, 37
Badness (Sintel): 1.92
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 91/90, 169/168
Mapping: [⟨1 1 5 4 -1 4], ⟨0 2 -9 -4 15 -1]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1198.1741 ¢, ~16/13 = 356.1582 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~16/13 = 356.7008 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 10, 27, 37
Badness (Sintel): 1.40
Progress
- Not to be confused with Progression.
- For the 5-limit version, see Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Progress.
Progress tempers out 392/375 and may be described as 15 & 17c. It splits the perfect twelfth into three generators of ~10/7; its ploidacot is alpha-tricot. 32c-edo gives an obvious tuning.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 64/63, 392/375
Mapping: [⟨1 0 5 6], ⟨0 3 -5 -6]]
- mapping generators: ~2, ~10/7
- WE: ~2 = 1195.1377 ¢, ~10/7 = 635.2932 ¢
- error map: ⟨-4.862 +3.925 +12.908 -9.759]
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~10/7 = 638.0791 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 +12.282 +23.291 +2.700]
Optimal ET sequence: 2, 13, 15, 32c
Badness (Sintel): 1.68
11-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 77/75
Mapping: [⟨1 0 5 6 4], ⟨0 3 -5 -6 -1]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1195.4920 ¢, ~10/7 = 635.5183 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~10/7 = 638.0884 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 2, 13, 15, 32c, 47bc
Badness (Sintel): 1.03
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 66/65, 77/75
Mapping: [⟨1 0 5 6 4 0], ⟨0 3 -5 -6 -1 7]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1195.0786 ¢, ~10/7 = 635.0197 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~10/7 = 637.6691 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 15, 17c, 32cf
Badness (Sintel): 1.08
Progressive
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 26/25, 56/55, 64/63, 77/75
Mapping: [⟨1 0 5 6 4 9], ⟨0 3 -5 -6 -1 -10]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1196.0245 ¢, ~10/7 = 634.6516 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~10/7 = 636.9528 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 2f, 15f, 17c
Badness (Sintel): 1.35
Fervor
- For the 5-limit version, see Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Fervor.
Fervor tempers out 9704/9375 and may be described as 25 & 27. It splits the 6th harmonic into five generators of ~10/7; its ploidacot is beta-pentacot. 27edo is about as accurate as it can be tuned.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 64/63, 9604/9375
Mapping: [⟨1 -1 7 8], ⟨0 5 -9 -10]]
- mapping generators: ~2, ~10/7
- WE: ~2 = 1196.2742 ¢, ~10/7 = 620.2918 ¢
- error map: ⟨-3.726 +3.230 +4.980 -1.550]
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~10/7 = 622.3179 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 +9.634 +12.826 +7.996]
Optimal ET sequence: 2, 25, 27
Badness (Sintel): 2.74
11-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 1350/1331
Mapping: [⟨1 -1 7 8 4], ⟨0 5 -9 -10 -1]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1195.4148 ¢, ~10/7 = 619.7729 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~10/7 = 622.2525 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 2, 25e, 27e
Badness (Sintel): 1.72
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 78/77, 507/500
Mapping: [⟨1 -1 7 8 4 12], ⟨0 5 -9 -10 -1 -16]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1195.6284 ¢, ~10/7 = 619.6738 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~10/7 = 622.0631 ¢
Badness (Sintel): 1.64
Sixix
- For the 5-limit version, see Syntonic–chromatic equivalence continuum #Sixix (5-limit).
Sixix tempers out 3125/2916 and may be described as 25 & 32. It is related to the kleismic family in a way similar to the one between meantone and mavila. In both cases the generator is nominally a 6/5 and the complexity to generate major and minor chords is the same, but in sixix it is tuned extremely sharply, to the point where the 3rd and 5th harmonics are reached by going down instead of up, inverting the logic of chord construction. Its ploidacot is gamma-pentacot.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 64/63, 3125/2916
Mapping: [⟨1 3 4 0], ⟨0 -5 -6 10]]
- WE: ~2 = 1198.9028 ¢, ~6/5 = 337.1334 ¢
- error map: ⟨-1.097 +9.086 -13.503 +2.508]
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~6/5 = 337.4588 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 +10.751 -11.066 +5.762]
Optimal ET sequence: 7, 18d, 25, 32
Badness (Sintel): 4.02
11-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 125/121
Mapping: [⟨1 3 4 0 6], ⟨0 -5 -6 10 -9]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1198.5480 ¢, ~6/5 = 337.1557 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~6/5 = 337.6000 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 7, 25e, 32
Badness (Sintel): 2.34
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 40/39, 55/54, 64/63, 125/121
Mapping: [⟨1 3 4 0 6 4], ⟨0 -5 -6 10 -9 -1]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1197.7111 ¢, ~6/5 = 336.8391 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~6/5 = 337.5336 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 7, 25e, 32f
Badness (Sintel): 1.91
17-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: 40/39, 55/54, 64/63, 85/84, 125/121
Mapping: [⟨1 3 4 0 6 4 1], ⟨0 -5 -6 10 -9 -1 11]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1197.7807 ¢, ~6/5 = 336.8884 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~6/5 = 337.5279 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 7, 25e, 32f
Badness (Sintel): 2.00