Xenharmonic Wiki talk:Terms of Service - Revision history

Tyler Henthorn at 07:42, 17 March 2019

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	Thanks for bringing this up. It needed to get done. I received some advice and created something accordingly that I think should cover the wiki in legal terms. I think the "Refraining from Certain Activities" section covers much of what we don't want people to be doing. You may notice that this section is borrowed from Wikimedia's Terms of Use. If you think that some procedures for dealing with disruptive users need to exist in written form, I think they can do so as part of a separate document. [[User:Tyler Henthorn\|Tyler Henthorn]] ([[User talk:Tyler Henthorn\|talk]]) 07:25, 17 March 2019 (UTC)		Thanks for bringing this up. It needed to get done. I received some advice and created something accordingly that I think should cover the wiki in legal terms. I think the "Refraining from Certain Activities" section covers much of what we don't want people to be doing. You may notice that this section is borrowed from Wikimedia's Terms of Use. If you think that some procedures for dealing with disruptive users need to exist in written form, I think they can do so as part of a separate document. We can always add more items to the signup page. [[User:Tyler Henthorn\|Tyler Henthorn]] ([[User talk:Tyler Henthorn\|talk]]) 07:25, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

	==Suggested wording for LEGAL section==		==Suggested wording for LEGAL section==

Tyler Henthorn: /* Overview */

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	--[[User:Stephen Weigel\|Stephen Weigel]] ([[User talk:Stephen Weigel\|talk]]) 19:02, 16 March 2019 (UTC)		--[[User:Stephen Weigel\|Stephen Weigel]] ([[User talk:Stephen Weigel\|talk]]) 19:02, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

			Thanks for bringing this up. It needed to get done. I received some advice and created something accordingly that I think should cover the wiki in legal terms. I think the "Refraining from Certain Activities" section covers much of what we don't want people to be doing. You may notice that this section is borrowed from Wikimedia's Terms of Use. If you think that some procedures for dealing with disruptive users need to exist in written form, I think they can do so as part of a separate document. [[User:Tyler Henthorn\|Tyler Henthorn]] ([[User talk:Tyler Henthorn\|talk]]) 07:25, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

	==Suggested wording for LEGAL section==		==Suggested wording for LEGAL section==

Stephen Weigel: /* Overview */

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	'''Quote From [http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/808 The Great Failure of Wikipedia], 2004 article by Jason Scott: "This is what the inherent failure of wikipedia is. It’s that there’s a small set of content generators, a massive amount of wonks and twiddlers, and then a heaping amount of procedural whackjobs. And the mass of twiddlers and procedural whackjobs means that the content generators stop being so and have to become content defenders.'''		'''Quote From [http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/808 The Great Failure of Wikipedia], 2004 article by Jason Scott: "This is what the inherent failure of wikipedia is. It’s that there’s a small set of content generators, a massive amount of wonks and twiddlers, and then a heaping amount of procedural whackjobs. And the mass of twiddlers and procedural whackjobs means that the content generators stop being so and have to become content defenders.'''
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	*Stephen Weigel approves this message. --[[User:Stephen Weigel\|Stephen Weigel]] ([[User talk:Stephen Weigel\|talk]]) 19:02, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

	--[[User:SyntheticThought\|SyntheticThought]] ([[User talk:SyntheticThought\|talk]]) 18:37, 16 March 2019 (UTC)		--[[User:SyntheticThought\|SyntheticThought]] ([[User talk:SyntheticThought\|talk]]) 18:37, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
			--[[User:Stephen Weigel\|Stephen Weigel]] ([[User talk:Stephen Weigel\|talk]]) 19:02, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

	==Suggested wording for LEGAL section==		==Suggested wording for LEGAL section==

Stephen Weigel: /* Overview */

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			*Stephen Weigel approves this message. --[[User:Stephen Weigel\|Stephen Weigel]] ([[User talk:Stephen Weigel\|talk]]) 19:02, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

	--[[User:SyntheticThought\|SyntheticThought]] ([[User talk:SyntheticThought\|talk]]) 18:37, 16 March 2019 (UTC)		--[[User:SyntheticThought\|SyntheticThought]] ([[User talk:SyntheticThought\|talk]]) 18:37, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Stephen Weigel: /* LEGAL: DATA RETENTION */

2019-03-16T19:02:06Z

LEGAL: DATA RETENTION

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	*Stephen Weigel approves this message.

Stephen Weigel: /* LEGAL: DATA RETENTION */

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LEGAL: DATA RETENTION

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SyntheticThought at 18:47, 16 March 2019

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	Wording is from one-on-one back and forths I've had with Kite, Jacob, Stephen W.		Wording is from one-on-one back and forths I've had with Kite, Jacob, Stephen W.

	~~Then was OKed by site~~ co-hoster Mike B.		Site co-hoster Mike B. helped clarify the language.
	~~And he~~ helped clarify the language.

	When I've brought up before on the Facebook Xen Wiki group about adding something like this, people who don't have much skin in the game (non-editors and rarely-editors) SCREECHED at me and called me all kinds of names. I'm not sure why anyone would want to defend not booting actual trolls, but apparently some people do.		When I've brought up before on the Facebook Xen Wiki group about adding something like this, people who don't have much skin in the game (non-editors and rarely-editors) SCREECHED at me and called me all kinds of names. I'm not sure why anyone would want to defend not booting actual trolls, but apparently some people do.

SyntheticThought: added sig and time stamp

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	This side does log your IP address, and does use cookies. And to edit the site, you need to provide your email address.		This side does log your IP address, and does use cookies. And to edit the site, you need to provide your email address.
	But we do not sell them or rent them to any third-parties, and will not use the info to spam anyone.		But we do not sell them or rent them to any third-parties, and will not use the info to spam anyone.


			--[[User:SyntheticThought\|SyntheticThought]] ([[User talk:SyntheticThought\|talk]]) 18:38, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

SyntheticThought: /* Overview */

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	'''Quote From [http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/808 The Great Failure of Wikipedia], 2004 article by Jason Scott: "This is what the inherent failure of wikipedia is. It’s that there’s a small set of content generators, a massive amount of wonks and twiddlers, and then a heaping amount of procedural whackjobs. And the mass of twiddlers and procedural whackjobs means that the content generators stop being so and have to become content defenders.'''		'''Quote From [http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/808 The Great Failure of Wikipedia], 2004 article by Jason Scott: "This is what the inherent failure of wikipedia is. It’s that there’s a small set of content generators, a massive amount of wonks and twiddlers, and then a heaping amount of procedural whackjobs. And the mass of twiddlers and procedural whackjobs means that the content generators stop being so and have to become content defenders.'''
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SyntheticThought: /* Overview */

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	We just went and made this. Because when you sign up for an account, it asks you to agree to this page, and this page was blank. lol.		We just went and made this. Because when you sign up for an account, it asks you to agree to this page, and this page was blank. lol.

	~~W'''Bold text'''ording~~ is from one-on-one back and forths I've had with Kite, Jacob, Stephen W.		Wording is from one-on-one back and forths I've had with Kite, Jacob, Stephen W.

	Then was OKed by site co-hoster Mike B.		Then was OKed by site co-hoster Mike B.
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	Between that, and this, it should be far less crazy making to contribute to, and read, this site going forth. To those who helped make that happen.		Between that, and this, it should be far less crazy making to contribute to, and read, this site going forth. To those who helped make that happen.
	Thank you for your service!		Thank you for your service!
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	Quote From [http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/808 The Great Failure of Wikipedia], 2004 article by Jason Scott:		'''Quote From [http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/808 The Great Failure of Wikipedia], 2004 article by Jason Scott: "This is what the inherent failure of wikipedia is. It’s that there’s a small set of content generators, a massive amount of wonks and twiddlers, and then a heaping amount of procedural whackjobs. And the mass of twiddlers and procedural whackjobs means that the content generators stop being so and have to become content defenders.'''
	"This is what the inherent failure of wikipedia is. It’s that there’s a small set of content generators, a massive amount of wonks and twiddlers, and then a heaping amount of procedural whackjobs. And the mass of twiddlers and procedural whackjobs means that the content generators stop being so and have to become content defenders."'''
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			--[[User:SyntheticThought\|SyntheticThought]] ([[User talk:SyntheticThought\|talk]]) 18:37, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

	==Suggested wording for LEGAL section==		==Suggested wording for LEGAL section==