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ArrowHead294: Dunnow

2026-01-28T15:40:53Z

Dunnow

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	:: Yeah, but the <code>s</code> in <code><nowiki>{{`s}}</nowiki></code> is semantically meaningless for the markup language and is part of the content text instead. —[[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 05:25, 28 January 2026 (UTC)		:: Yeah, but the <code>s</code> in <code><nowiki>{{`s}}</nowiki></code> is semantically meaningless for the markup language and is part of the content text instead. —[[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 05:25, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

	::: I think <code><nowiki>{{'s}}</nowiki></code> just looks neater than <code><nowiki>{{'}}s</nowiki></code>. But if you think it's appropriate to have them separate, you can delete <code><nowiki>{{'s}}</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{`s}}</nowiki></code>, and they can be replaced with <code><nowiki>{{'}}s</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{`}}s</nowiki></code>.

	::: Also, do you think <code><nowiki>{{-'}}</nowiki></code> is more "intuitive" than <code><nowiki>{{`}}</nowiki></code> for a spaced apostrophe? If that's the case, then we could go back to <code><nowiki>{{-'}}</nowiki></code> for a spaced apostrophe. Then we can use <code><nowiki>{{`}}</nowiki></code> for the prime symbol instead, and <code><nowiki>{{-`}}</nowiki></code> for a spaced prime. [[User:ArrowHead294\|<math>\overrightarrow{\,\,\scriptsize\text{ArrowHead294}\,\,\,}</math>]] [[User talk:ArrowHead294\|(speak to me)]] 15:06, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

ArrowHead294: /* Template:` and Template:`s */

2026-01-28T15:32:03Z

Template:` and Template:`s

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	:: Yeah, but the <code>s</code> in <code><nowiki>{{`s}}</nowiki></code> is semantically meaningless for the markup language and is part of the content text instead. —[[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 05:25, 28 January 2026 (UTC)		:: Yeah, but the <code>s</code> in <code><nowiki>{{`s}}</nowiki></code> is semantically meaningless for the markup language and is part of the content text instead. —[[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 05:25, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

	::: ~~You know what? If~~ you think it's appropriate, you can delete <code><nowiki>{{'s}}</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{`s}}</nowiki></code>, and they can be replaced with <code><nowiki>{{'}}s</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{`}}s</nowiki></code>.		::: I think <code><nowiki>{{'s}}</nowiki></code> just looks neater than <code><nowiki>{{'}}s</nowiki></code>. But if you think it's appropriate to have them separate, you can delete <code><nowiki>{{'s}}</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{`s}}</nowiki></code>, and they can be replaced with <code><nowiki>{{'}}s</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{`}}s</nowiki></code>.

	::: Also, do you think <code><nowiki>{{-'}}</nowiki></code> is more "intuitive" than <code><nowiki>{{`}}</nowiki></code> for a spaced apostrophe? If that's the case, then we could use <code><nowiki>{{`}}</nowiki></code> for the prime symbol instead, and <code><nowiki>{{-`}}</nowiki></code> for a spaced prime. [[User:ArrowHead294\|<math>\overrightarrow{\,\,\scriptsize\text{ArrowHead294}\,\,\,}</math>]] [[User talk:ArrowHead294\|(speak to me)]] 15:06, 28 January 2026 (UTC)		::: Also, do you think <code><nowiki>{{-'}}</nowiki></code> is more "intuitive" than <code><nowiki>{{`}}</nowiki></code> for a spaced apostrophe? If that's the case, then we could go back to <code><nowiki>{{-'}}</nowiki></code> for a spaced apostrophe. Then we can use <code><nowiki>{{`}}</nowiki></code> for the prime symbol instead, and <code><nowiki>{{-`}}</nowiki></code> for a spaced prime. [[User:ArrowHead294\|<math>\overrightarrow{\,\,\scriptsize\text{ArrowHead294}\,\,\,}</math>]] [[User talk:ArrowHead294\|(speak to me)]] 15:06, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

ArrowHead294: /* Template:` and Template:`s */

2026-01-28T15:29:15Z

Template:` and Template:`s

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	:: Yeah, but the <code>s</code> in <code><nowiki>{{`s}}</nowiki></code> is semantically meaningless for the markup language and is part of the content text instead. —[[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 05:25, 28 January 2026 (UTC)		:: Yeah, but the <code>s</code> in <code><nowiki>{{`s}}</nowiki></code> is semantically meaningless for the markup language and is part of the content text instead. —[[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 05:25, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

	::: You know what? If you think it's appropriate, you can delete <code><nowiki>{{'s}}</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{`s}}</nowiki></code>, and ~~I'll just replace them~~ with <code><nowiki>{{'}}s</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{`}}s</nowiki></code>. [[User:ArrowHead294\|<math>\overrightarrow{\,\,\scriptsize\text{ArrowHead294}\,\,\,}</math>]] [[User talk:ArrowHead294\|(speak to me)]] 15:06, 28 January 2026 (UTC)		::: You know what? If you think it's appropriate, you can delete <code><nowiki>{{'s}}</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{`s}}</nowiki></code>, and they can be replaced with <code><nowiki>{{'}}s</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{`}}s</nowiki></code>.

			::: Also, do you think <code><nowiki>{{-'}}</nowiki></code> is more "intuitive" than <code><nowiki>{{`}}</nowiki></code> for a spaced apostrophe? If that's the case, then we could use <code><nowiki>{{`}}</nowiki></code> for the prime symbol instead, and <code><nowiki>{{-`}}</nowiki></code> for a spaced prime. [[User:ArrowHead294\|<math>\overrightarrow{\,\,\scriptsize\text{ArrowHead294}\,\,\,}</math>]] [[User talk:ArrowHead294\|(speak to me)]] 15:06, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

ArrowHead294: /* Template:` and Template:`s */

2026-01-28T15:06:41Z

Template:` and Template:`s

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	:: Yeah, but the <code>s</code> in <code><nowiki>{{`s}}</nowiki></code> is semantically meaningless for the markup language and is part of the content text instead. —[[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 05:25, 28 January 2026 (UTC)		:: Yeah, but the <code>s</code> in <code><nowiki>{{`s}}</nowiki></code> is semantically meaningless for the markup language and is part of the content text instead. —[[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 05:25, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

			::: You know what? If you think it's appropriate, you can delete <code><nowiki>{{'s}}</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{`s}}</nowiki></code>, and I'll just replace them with <code><nowiki>{{'}}s</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{`}}s</nowiki></code>. [[User:ArrowHead294\|<math>\overrightarrow{\,\,\scriptsize\text{ArrowHead294}\,\,\,}</math>]] [[User talk:ArrowHead294\|(speak to me)]] 15:06, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

FloraC: /* Template:` and Template:`s */ re

2026-01-28T05:25:51Z

Template:` and Template:`s: re

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	> <nowiki>{{`}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{`s}}</nowiki> can be used to additionally prevent the last letter from intersecting the apostrophe or quote.		> <nowiki>{{`}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{`s}}</nowiki> can be used to additionally prevent the last letter from intersecting the apostrophe or quote.

	Is there really a point in this? We're not typesetting newspapers. Plus, ~~Template:~~`s is simply equivalent to ~~Template:~~` + s, no? —[[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 20:50, 26 January 2026 (UTC)		Is there really a point in this? We're not typesetting newspapers. Plus, <code><nowiki>{{`s}}</nowiki></code> is simply equivalent to <code><nowiki>{{`}}</nowiki>s</code>, no? —[[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 20:50, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
	: I made <nowiki>{{`s}}</nowiki> since I thought <nowiki>{{`}}s</nowiki> was a little awkward compared to having them together.		: I made <nowiki>{{`s}}</nowiki> since I thought <nowiki>{{`}}s</nowiki> was a little awkward compared to having them together.

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	:: ''f''{{`s}} (<code><nowiki>''f''{{`s}}</nowiki></code>, with space)		:: ''f''{{`s}} (<code><nowiki>''f''{{`s}}</nowiki></code>, with space)
	: I know we're not typesetting newspapers and whatnot, but I think this little tweak is worth it. [[User:ArrowHead294\|<math>\overrightarrow{\,\,\scriptsize\text{ArrowHead294}\,\,\,}</math>]] [[User talk:ArrowHead294\|(speak to me)]] 00:40, 28 January 2026 (UTC)		: I know we're not typesetting newspapers and whatnot, but I think this little tweak is worth it. [[User:ArrowHead294\|<math>\overrightarrow{\,\,\scriptsize\text{ArrowHead294}\,\,\,}</math>]] [[User talk:ArrowHead294\|(speak to me)]] 00:40, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

			:: Yeah, but the <code>s</code> in <code><nowiki>{{`s}}</nowiki></code> is semantically meaningless for the markup language and is part of the content text instead. —[[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 05:25, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

ArrowHead294: /* Template:` and Template:`s */ Reply, I still think it's worth keeping

2026-01-28T00:40:49Z

Template:` and Template:`s: Reply, I still think it's worth keeping

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	Is there really a point in this? We're not typesetting newspapers. Plus, Template:`s is simply equivalent to Template:` + s, no? —[[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 20:50, 26 January 2026 (UTC)		Is there really a point in this? We're not typesetting newspapers. Plus, Template:`s is simply equivalent to Template:` + s, no? —[[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 20:50, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
			: I made <nowiki>{{`s}}</nowiki> since I thought <nowiki>{{`}}s</nowiki> was a little awkward compared to having them together.

			: Also, placing an apostrophe after certain letters, such as f or T, can cause the apostrophe to interfere with the letter. Compare:
			:: ''f''{{'s}} (<code><nowiki>''f''{{'s}}</nowiki></code>, no space)
			: and
			:: ''f''{{`s}} (<code><nowiki>''f''{{`s}}</nowiki></code>, with space)
			: I know we're not typesetting newspapers and whatnot, but I think this little tweak is worth it. [[User:ArrowHead294\|<math>\overrightarrow{\,\,\scriptsize\text{ArrowHead294}\,\,\,}</math>]] [[User talk:ArrowHead294\|(speak to me)]] 00:40, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

FloraC at 20:53, 26 January 2026

2026-01-26T20:53:25Z

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	> <nowiki>{{`}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{`s}}</nowiki> can be used to additionally prevent the last letter from intersecting the apostrophe or quote.		> <nowiki>{{`}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{`s}}</nowiki> can be used to additionally prevent the last letter from intersecting the apostrophe or quote.

	Is there really a point in this? We're not typesetting ~~newspaper~~. Plus, ~~template~~:`s is simply equivalent to Template:` + s, no? —[[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 20:50, 26 January 2026 (UTC)		Is there really a point in this? We're not typesetting newspapers. Plus, Template:`s is simply equivalent to Template:` + s, no? —[[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 20:50, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

FloraC at 20:50, 26 January 2026

2026-01-26T20:50:24Z

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	{{High priority}}		{{High priority}}

	== [[List model]] ==		== List model ==

	Can we talk about [[Xenharmonic Wiki:Conventions#Lists]]? Why is it discouraged to use standard Wikitext lists?? Can we have a vote or something? —[[User:Keenan Pepper\|Keenan Pepper]] ([[User talk:Keenan Pepper\|talk]]) 18:57, 30 September 2018 (UTC)		Can we talk about [[Xenharmonic Wiki:Conventions#Lists]]? Why is it discouraged to use standard Wikitext lists?? Can we have a vote or something? —[[User:Keenan Pepper\|Keenan Pepper]] ([[User talk:Keenan Pepper\|talk]]) 18:57, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
	:[[FREEZE]] used the truly standard list model. We should all trust [[FREEZE]]. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 19:00, 30 September 2018 (UTC)		:[[FREEZE]] used the truly standard list model. We should all trust [[FREEZE]]. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 19:00, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
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	: I would be in favour of using 3 digits everywhere. --[[User:BudjarnLambeth\|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth\|talk]]) 02:38, 7 July 2023 (UTC)		: I would be in favour of using 3 digits everywhere. --[[User:BudjarnLambeth\|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth\|talk]]) 02:38, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

			== Template:` and Template:`s ==
			> <nowiki>{{`}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{`s}}</nowiki> can be used to additionally prevent the last letter from intersecting the apostrophe or quote.

			Is there really a point in this? We're not typesetting newspaper. Plus, template:`s is simply equivalent to Template:` + s, no? —[[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 20:50, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

BudjarnLambeth: {{High priority}}

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			{{High priority}}

	== [[List model]] ==		== [[List model]] ==

BudjarnLambeth: /* 2 or 3 digits */ Replied

2023-07-07T02:38:06Z

2 or 3 digits: Replied

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	Giving two options for the number of digits isn't really useful if we want consistency... I just changed the [[15edo#Commas]] table's values to 3 digits because I had checked [[17edo#Commas]] and that table used 3 digits, but apparently that one was the exception, not the reverse? Would it make sense to use 3 digits everywhere? Of course it's not urgent, but I'd rather stick to one standard rather than two, so that at least when we're making decisions, they're not arbitrary or random. --[[User:Fredg999\|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999\|talk]]) 02:25, 7 July 2023 (UTC)		Giving two options for the number of digits isn't really useful if we want consistency... I just changed the [[15edo#Commas]] table's values to 3 digits because I had checked [[17edo#Commas]] and that table used 3 digits, but apparently that one was the exception, not the reverse? Would it make sense to use 3 digits everywhere? Of course it's not urgent, but I'd rather stick to one standard rather than two, so that at least when we're making decisions, they're not arbitrary or random. --[[User:Fredg999\|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999\|talk]]) 02:25, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

			: I would be in favour of using 3 digits everywhere. --[[User:BudjarnLambeth\|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth\|talk]]) 02:38, 7 July 2023 (UTC)