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Fredg999: /* Welcome and regarding your new page */Fixed mistake

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	:::: Unfortunately, very few polysystemic pieces are currently filed in the wiki. I can recommend [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBXpOPeQFYY&t=416s Liminal City Escalators], which features [[18edo]] & [[12edo]] as well as 18edo & [[17edo]] (alongside the same tunings used separately), but there are certainly many more as well.		:::: Unfortunately, very few polysystemic pieces are currently filed in the wiki. I can recommend [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBXpOPeQFYY&t=416s Liminal City Escalators], which features [[18edo]] & [[12edo]] as well as 18edo & [[17edo]] (alongside the same tunings used separately), but there are certainly many more as well.

	:::: By the way, the equal division of [[12edo]] intervals can easily be described by using different [[edo]]s, such as [[9edo]] for 3 equal divisions of the 12edo major third (as in [https://youtu.be/E5F_-iPP1Tc Acute], where it was notated as "M3/4"), or [[~~108edo~~]] if you apply that division on every pitch of 12edo and consider the resulting set of pitches. --[[User:Fredg999\|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999\|talk]]) 05:03, 14 January 2022 (UTC)		:::: By the way, the equal division of [[12edo]] intervals can easily be described by using different [[edo]]s, such as [[9edo]] for 3 equal divisions of the 12edo major third (as in [https://youtu.be/E5F_-iPP1Tc Acute], where it was notated as "M3/4"), or [[36edo]] if you apply that division on every pitch of 12edo and consider the resulting set of pitches. --[[User:Fredg999\|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999\|talk]]) 05:03, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Fredg999 at 05:03, 14 January 2022

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	::: I see, thinking about things as objects as opposed to methods makes more sense. I don't think EDI adds anything new to equal-step tuning in that case. I'll change the page to a redirect. For my own reference, is there a page about combining different xenharmonic objects (like how 12TET and equal-step tunings are combined in the examples I provided on the page)? Thank you! [[User:Sporklpony\|Sporklpony]] ([[User talk:Sporklpony\|talk]]) 21:37, 13 January 2022 (ETC)		::: I see, thinking about things as objects as opposed to methods makes more sense. I don't think EDI adds anything new to equal-step tuning in that case. I'll change the page to a redirect. For my own reference, is there a page about combining different xenharmonic objects (like how 12TET and equal-step tunings are combined in the examples I provided on the page)? Thank you! [[User:Sporklpony\|Sporklpony]] ([[User talk:Sporklpony\|talk]]) 21:37, 13 January 2022 (ETC)

			:::: The usual terms are ''[[polysystemic]]'' (from [[Ivor Darreg]]) and ''[[polymicrotonality]]'' (from [[Johnny Reinhard]]). To my knowledge, they are mostly used to describe pieces that use two or more tuning systems significantly, as opposed to pieces that use alternative tunings for a short effect. For instance, Jacob Collier's "[https://youtu.be/KhyyjRcrn84?t=272 Moon River]" is barely polysystemic, and many people probably wouldn't label it as such, but arguably "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPZn4x3uOac In the Bleak Midwinter]" is "more" polysystemic. I guess it's hard to draw clear boundaries anyway.

			:::: Unfortunately, very few polysystemic pieces are currently filed in the wiki. I can recommend [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBXpOPeQFYY&t=416s Liminal City Escalators], which features [[18edo]] & [[12edo]] as well as 18edo & [[17edo]] (alongside the same tunings used separately), but there are certainly many more as well.

			:::: By the way, the equal division of [[12edo]] intervals can easily be described by using different [[edo]]s, such as [[9edo]] for 3 equal divisions of the 12edo major third (as in [https://youtu.be/E5F_-iPP1Tc Acute], where it was notated as "M3/4"), or [[108edo]] if you apply that division on every pitch of 12edo and consider the resulting set of pitches. --[[User:Fredg999\|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999\|talk]]) 05:03, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Sporklpony at 02:37, 14 January 2022

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	:: I'm not sure. Is the difference only methodological? Since I don't see the difference in the definition of the objects from what's presented. Think about it, the equal temperament and the equal-step tuning are different objects, yet they haven't had their separate pages. So if for certain reasons the method can't be effectively discussed with equal-step tunings, it needs to be elaborated. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 23:59, 13 January 2022 (UTC)		:: I'm not sure. Is the difference only methodological? Since I don't see the difference in the definition of the objects from what's presented. Think about it, the equal temperament and the equal-step tuning are different objects, yet they haven't had their separate pages. So if for certain reasons the method can't be effectively discussed with equal-step tunings, it needs to be elaborated. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 23:59, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

			::: I see, thinking about things as objects as opposed to methods makes more sense. I don't think EDI adds anything new to equal-step tuning in that case. I'll change the page to a redirect. For my own reference, is there a page about combining different xenharmonic objects (like how 12TET and equal-step tunings are combined in the examples I provided on the page)? Thank you! [[User:Sporklpony\|Sporklpony]] ([[User talk:Sporklpony\|talk]]) 21:37, 13 January 2022 (ETC)

FloraC: re

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	: I was aware of the idea of equal-step tuning, but I wasn't sure of the name. That said, I do think equal division of an interval is a different enough concept to warrant it's own page; I see equal division of an interval as a method to extend the tonality of existing scales, as opposed to a method to build new scales. Each of the examples I linked use it to achieve some degree of microtonality in what is otherwise a 12TET harmonic language. Do you think it's different enough to warrant a new page? (If not I'm completely alright to delete it). As for the Ed5 mistake, that's one hundred percent my bad; I got it mixed up with Edf. Thank you for catching it! In general, I'm still quite new to xenharmony, so thank you for the corrections and apologies for any mistakes I make! [[User:Sporklpony\|Sporklpony]] ([[User talk:Sporklpony\|talk]]) 18:19, 13 January 2022 (ETC)		: I was aware of the idea of equal-step tuning, but I wasn't sure of the name. That said, I do think equal division of an interval is a different enough concept to warrant it's own page; I see equal division of an interval as a method to extend the tonality of existing scales, as opposed to a method to build new scales. Each of the examples I linked use it to achieve some degree of microtonality in what is otherwise a 12TET harmonic language. Do you think it's different enough to warrant a new page? (If not I'm completely alright to delete it). As for the Ed5 mistake, that's one hundred percent my bad; I got it mixed up with Edf. Thank you for catching it! In general, I'm still quite new to xenharmony, so thank you for the corrections and apologies for any mistakes I make! [[User:Sporklpony\|Sporklpony]] ([[User talk:Sporklpony\|talk]]) 18:19, 13 January 2022 (ETC)

			:: I'm not sure. Is the difference only methodological? Since I don't see the difference in the definition of the objects from what's presented. Think about it, the equal temperament and the equal-step tuning are different objects, yet they haven't had their separate pages. So if for certain reasons the method can't be effectively discussed with equal-step tunings, it needs to be elaborated. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 23:59, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Sporklpony: /* Welcome and regarding your new page */

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Welcome and regarding your new page

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	It seems your definition of ''equal division of an interval'' is no different from the existing ''equal-step tuning''. Have you read it? I suggest so. And if the "edi" concept is different please make sure to explain the difference since it's not clear now. If not, I suggest removal or redirection. Besides, you mentioned "ed5" for equal division of the ''perfect fifth'', yet ed5 is the equal division of the ''5th harmonic''. Equal division of the perfect fifth is commonly denoted edf or ed3/2. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 22:44, 13 January 2022 (UTC)		It seems your definition of ''equal division of an interval'' is no different from the existing ''equal-step tuning''. Have you read it? I suggest so. And if the "edi" concept is different please make sure to explain the difference since it's not clear now. If not, I suggest removal or redirection. Besides, you mentioned "ed5" for equal division of the ''perfect fifth'', yet ed5 is the equal division of the ''5th harmonic''. Equal division of the perfect fifth is commonly denoted edf or ed3/2. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 22:44, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

	: I was aware of the idea of equal-step tuning, but I wasn't sure of the name. That said, I do think equal division of an interval is a different enough concept to warrant it's own page; I see equal division of an interval as a method to extend the tonality of existing scales, as opposed to a method to build new scales. Each of the examples I linked use it to achieve some degree of microtonality in what is otherwise a 12TET harmonic language. Do you think it's different enough to warrant a new page? (If not I'm completely alright to delete it). As for the Ed5 mistake, that's one hundred percent my bad; I got it mixed up with Edf. Thank you for catching it! In general, I'm still quite new to xenharmony, so thank you for the corrections and apologies for any mistakes I make! [[User:Sporklpony\|Sporklpony]] ([[User talk:Sporklpony\|talk]])		: I was aware of the idea of equal-step tuning, but I wasn't sure of the name. That said, I do think equal division of an interval is a different enough concept to warrant it's own page; I see equal division of an interval as a method to extend the tonality of existing scales, as opposed to a method to build new scales. Each of the examples I linked use it to achieve some degree of microtonality in what is otherwise a 12TET harmonic language. Do you think it's different enough to warrant a new page? (If not I'm completely alright to delete it). As for the Ed5 mistake, that's one hundred percent my bad; I got it mixed up with Edf. Thank you for catching it! In general, I'm still quite new to xenharmony, so thank you for the corrections and apologies for any mistakes I make! [[User:Sporklpony\|Sporklpony]] ([[User talk:Sporklpony\|talk]]) 18:19, 13 January 2022 (ETC)

Sporklpony: /* Welcome and regarding your new page */

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	== Welcome and regarding your new page ==		== Welcome and regarding your new page ==
	It seems your definition of ''equal division of an interval'' is no different from the existing ''equal-step tuning''. Have you read it? I suggest so. And if the "edi" concept is different please make sure to explain the difference since it's not clear now. If not, I suggest removal or redirection. Besides, you mentioned "ed5" for equal division of the ''perfect fifth'', yet ed5 is the equal division of the ''5th harmonic''. Equal division of the perfect fifth is commonly denoted edf or ed3/2. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 22:44, 13 January 2022 (UTC)		It seems your definition of ''equal division of an interval'' is no different from the existing ''equal-step tuning''. Have you read it? I suggest so. And if the "edi" concept is different please make sure to explain the difference since it's not clear now. If not, I suggest removal or redirection. Besides, you mentioned "ed5" for equal division of the ''perfect fifth'', yet ed5 is the equal division of the ''5th harmonic''. Equal division of the perfect fifth is commonly denoted edf or ed3/2. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 22:44, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

			: I was aware of the idea of equal-step tuning, but I wasn't sure of the name. That said, I do think equal division of an interval is a different enough concept to warrant it's own page; I see equal division of an interval as a method to extend the tonality of existing scales, as opposed to a method to build new scales. Each of the examples I linked use it to achieve some degree of microtonality in what is otherwise a 12TET harmonic language. Do you think it's different enough to warrant a new page? (If not I'm completely alright to delete it). As for the Ed5 mistake, that's one hundred percent my bad; I got it mixed up with Edf. Thank you for catching it! In general, I'm still quite new to xenharmony, so thank you for the corrections and apologies for any mistakes I make! [[User:Sporklpony\|Sporklpony]] ([[User talk:Sporklpony\|talk]])

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It seems your definition of ''equal division of an interval'' is no different from the existing ''equal-step tuning''. Have you read it? I suggest so. And if the "edi" concept is different please make sure to explain the difference since it's not clear now. If not, I suggest removal or redirection. Besides, you mentioned "ed5" for equal division of the ''perfect fifth'', yet ed5 is the equal division of the ''5th harmonic''. Equal division of the perfect fifth is commonly denoted edf or ed3/2. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 22:44, 13 January 2022 (UTC)