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PiotrGrochowski at 18:34, 4 October 2018

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	::No I was referring to where you said you might do another one based on 50edo. I'm not a big fan of 43edo so I like the idea of that one, though it is more important of course that the interval names feel right than what edo it's based on --[[User:Gareth.hearne\|Gareth.hearne]] ([[User talk:Gareth.hearne\|talk]]) 17:42, 1 October 2018 (UTC)		::No I was referring to where you said you might do another one based on 50edo. I'm not a big fan of 43edo so I like the idea of that one, though it is more important of course that the interval names feel right than what edo it's based on --[[User:Gareth.hearne\|Gareth.hearne]] ([[User talk:Gareth.hearne\|talk]]) 17:42, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
	:::Oh, ok. All meantone edos are quite cute in my opinion, whether grosstone, meanpop or not septimal meantone. The 50edo–based system will of course have 7 more names, which may affect which intermediates (unison–second, second–third, etc.) are present. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 18:05, 1 October 2018 (UTC)		:::Oh, ok. All meantone edos are quite cute in my opinion, whether grosstone, meanpop or not septimal meantone. The 50edo–based system will of course have 7 more names, which may affect which intermediates (unison–second, second–third, etc.) are present. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 18:05, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
			:::Of course what edo it's based on can affect the interval names. In 43edo, the major third maps to 14 steps, and the 12edo major third of 400 cents is closest to 14 steps, which maps to "major third" in my naming system. However, in 50edo, the major third maps to 16 steps, and the 12edo major third of 400 cents is closest to 17 steps, meaning that 400 cents would be some sort of a high major third in [[User:PiotrGrochowski/Extra-Diatonic Intervals — 50edo]]. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 18:34, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

PiotrGrochowski at 18:05, 1 October 2018

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	::No I was referring to where you said you might do another one based on 50edo. I'm not a big fan of 43edo so I like the idea of that one, though it is more important of course that the interval names feel right than what edo it's based on --[[User:Gareth.hearne\|Gareth.hearne]] ([[User talk:Gareth.hearne\|talk]]) 17:42, 1 October 2018 (UTC)		::No I was referring to where you said you might do another one based on 50edo. I'm not a big fan of 43edo so I like the idea of that one, though it is more important of course that the interval names feel right than what edo it's based on --[[User:Gareth.hearne\|Gareth.hearne]] ([[User talk:Gareth.hearne\|talk]]) 17:42, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
			:::Oh, ok. All meantone edos are quite cute in my opinion, whether grosstone, meanpop or not septimal meantone. The 50edo–based system will of course have 7 more names, which may affect which intermediates (unison–second, second–third, etc.) are present. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 18:05, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Gareth.hearne at 17:46, 1 October 2018

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	:This system is based on [[43edo]], not [[50edo]]. Did you misinterpret this page? [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 17:19, 1 October 2018 (UTC)		:This system is based on [[43edo]], not [[50edo]]. Did you misinterpret this page? [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 17:19, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

	::No I was referring to where you said you might do another one based on 50edo. I'm not a big fan of 43edo so I like the idea of that one.--[[User:Gareth.hearne\|Gareth.hearne]] ([[User talk:Gareth.hearne\|talk]]) 17:42, 1 October 2018 (UTC)		::No I was referring to where you said you might do another one based on 50edo. I'm not a big fan of 43edo so I like the idea of that one, though it is more important of course that the interval names feel right than what edo it's based on --[[User:Gareth.hearne\|Gareth.hearne]] ([[User talk:Gareth.hearne\|talk]]) 17:42, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Gareth.hearne at 17:42, 1 October 2018

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	:This system is based on [[43edo]], not [[50edo]]. Did you misinterpret this page? [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 17:19, 1 October 2018 (UTC)		:This system is based on [[43edo]], not [[50edo]]. Did you misinterpret this page? [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 17:19, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

	::No I was referring to where you said you might do another one based on 50edo. I'm not a big fan of 43edo so I like the idea of that one.		::No I was referring to where you said you might do another one based on 50edo. I'm not a big fan of 43edo so I like the idea of that one.--[[User:Gareth.hearne\|Gareth.hearne]] ([[User talk:Gareth.hearne\|talk]]) 17:42, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
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Gareth.hearne at 17:42, 1 October 2018

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	:This system is based on [[43edo]], not [[50edo]]. Did you misinterpret this page? [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 17:19, 1 October 2018 (UTC)		:This system is based on [[43edo]], not [[50edo]]. Did you misinterpret this page? [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 17:19, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

			::No I was referring to where you said you might do another one based on 50edo. I'm not a big fan of 43edo so I like the idea of that one.
			--[[User:Gareth.hearne\|Gareth.hearne]] ([[User talk:Gareth.hearne\|talk]]) 17:42, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

PiotrGrochowski at 17:19, 1 October 2018

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			:This system is based on [[43edo]], not [[50edo]]. Did you misinterpret this page? [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 17:19, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Gareth.hearne at 17:04, 1 October 2018

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			--[[User:Gareth.hearne\|Gareth.hearne]] ([[User talk:Gareth.hearne\|talk]]) 17:04, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Gareth.hearne at 16:53, 1 October 2018

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	Hi Piotr.		Hi Piotr.

	I like the idea of an extra-diatonic interval naming system based on Meanpop in 50edo. Certainly meantone rather than superpyth more directly reflects the origin of the diatonic ~~interval names~~. The extra-diatonic interval names scheme is being heavily reworked at the moment by some of us on Facebook, and the page should see a big change soon to reflect. We are currently considering basing the scheme on the circle of fifths, like ups and downs and sagispeak are, rather than on absolute interval size, upon reflecting on the importance of context and function upon perception. Btw, the nedo-interval names pages I have made are temporary, and to help me and anyone interested decide which interval naming systems we may add to all edo pages when we standardise them, by displaying all of them that I am aware of. You will know now that the nedo-m pages are also temporary pages: They are suggestions for what a standard edo page might look like. If you have your own idea of what a standard edo should look like I'd be interested in seeing it.		I like the idea of an extra-diatonic interval naming system based on Meanpop in 50edo. Certainly meantone rather than superpyth more directly reflects the origin of the majority use of the diatonic scale, however it was first Pythagorean before Meantone, so superpyth is arguably a valid alternative. The extra-diatonic interval names scheme is being heavily reworked at the moment by some of us on Facebook, and the page should see a big change soon to reflect. We are currently considering basing the scheme on the circle of fifths, like ups and downs and sagispeak are, rather than on absolute interval size, upon reflecting on the importance of context and function upon perception. Btw, the nedo-interval names pages I have made are temporary, and to help me and anyone interested decide which interval naming systems we may add to all edo pages when we standardise them, by displaying all of them that I am aware of. You will know now that the nedo-m pages are also temporary pages: They are suggestions for what a standard edo page might look like. If you have your own idea of what a standard edo should look like I'd be interested in seeing it.

	Thanks,		Thanks,
	Gareth		Gareth

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Hi Piotr.

I like the idea of an extra-diatonic interval naming system based on Meanpop in 50edo. Certainly meantone rather than superpyth more directly reflects the origin of the diatonic interval names. The extra-diatonic interval names scheme is being heavily reworked at the moment by some of us on Facebook, and the page should see a big change soon to reflect. We are currently considering basing the scheme on the circle of fifths, like ups and downs and sagispeak are, rather than on absolute interval size, upon reflecting on the importance of context and function upon perception. Btw, the nedo-interval names pages I have made are temporary, and to help me and anyone interested decide which interval naming systems we may add to all edo pages when we standardise them, by displaying all of them that I am aware of. You will know now that the nedo-m pages are also temporary pages: They are suggestions for what a standard edo page might look like. If you have your own idea of what a standard edo should look like I'd be interested in seeing it.

Thanks,
Gareth

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	::No I was referring to where you said you might do another one based on 50edo. I'm not a big fan of 43edo so I like the idea of that one, though it is more important of course that the interval names feel right than what edo it's based on --[[User:Gareth.hearne\|Gareth.hearne]] ([[User talk:Gareth.hearne\|talk]]) 17:42, 1 October 2018 (UTC)		::No I was referring to where you said you might do another one based on 50edo. I'm not a big fan of 43edo so I like the idea of that one, though it is more important of course that the interval names feel right than what edo it's based on --[[User:Gareth.hearne\|Gareth.hearne]] ([[User talk:Gareth.hearne\|talk]]) 17:42, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
	:::Oh, ok. All meantone edos are quite cute in my opinion, whether grosstone, meanpop or not septimal meantone. The 50edo–based system will of course have 7 more names, which may affect which intermediates (unison–second, second–third, etc.) are present. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 18:05, 1 October 2018 (UTC)		:::Oh, ok. All meantone edos are quite cute in my opinion, whether grosstone, meanpop or not septimal meantone. The 50edo–based system will of course have 7 more names, which may affect which intermediates (unison–second, second–third, etc.) are present. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 18:05, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
			:::Of course what edo it's based on can affect the interval names. In 43edo, the major third maps to 14 steps, and the 12edo major third of 400 cents is closest to 14 steps, which maps to "major third" in my naming system. However, in 50edo, the major third maps to 16 steps, and the 12edo major third of 400 cents is closest to 17 steps, meaning that 400 cents would be some sort of a high major third in [[User:PiotrGrochowski/Extra-Diatonic Intervals — 50edo]]. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 18:34, 4 October 2018 (UTC)