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Xenwolf: Reverted edits by PiotrGrochowski (talk) to last revision by Xenwolf

2018-10-25T15:02:47Z

Reverted edits by PiotrGrochowski (talk) to last revision by Xenwolf

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	== Serious warning ==		== Serious warning ==

	You are obviously unable to present your intention in a polite and understandable manner. I assume that your intrusive changes will result in you being permanently put into read-only mode in the near future. I very much regret that you have such difficulties with self-criticism. It is still open how long your writing pause will last. I know from some dedicated Xenwiki users that they plead for a permanent ban and resent me for not having you permanently blocked already.		You are obviously unable to present your intention in a polite and understandable manner. I assume that your intrusive changes will result in you being permanently put into read-only mode in the near future. I very much regret that you have such difficulties with self-criticism. It is still open how long your writing pause will last. I know from some dedicated Xenwiki users that they plead for a permanent ban and resent me for not having you permanently blocked already. Do me (and you!) a favor and undo your last changes.

	--[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 13:06, 24 October 2018 (UTC)		--[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 13:06, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

PiotrGrochowski: remove spam

2018-10-25T14:52:49Z

remove spam

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	You are obviously unable to present your intention in a polite and understandable manner. I assume that your intrusive changes will result in you being permanently put into read-only mode in the near future. I very much regret that you have such difficulties with self-criticism. It is still open how long your writing pause will last. I know from some dedicated Xenwiki users that they plead for a permanent ban and resent me for not having you permanently blocked already~~. Do me (and you!) a favor and undo your last changes~~.		You are obviously unable to present your intention in a polite and understandable manner. I assume that your intrusive changes will result in you being permanently put into read-only mode in the near future. I very much regret that you have such difficulties with self-criticism. It is still open how long your writing pause will last. I know from some dedicated Xenwiki users that they plead for a permanent ban and resent me for not having you permanently blocked already.

	--[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 13:06, 24 October 2018 (UTC)		--[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 13:06, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Xenwolf: /* Serious warning */ new section

2018-10-24T13:06:46Z

Serious warning: new section

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	The wiki source code ''is meant'' to be the ideal fall-back version. That's why it's a bad idea to overcomplicate it. In MediaWiki it's easy to get access to the source code, even if in read-only mode (BTW: did you know [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Chroma?action=raw <code>?action=raw</code>]). Do you really believe that someone is interested in adding unreadable number pictures and hard-coded line breaks, if styling is normally based on CSS these times? Here is what W3Cschools have to say about [https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_lists.asp HTML Lists]. Please consider to further clarify your intention with the help of some sensible reference. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 18:08, 23 October 2018 (UTC)		The wiki source code ''is meant'' to be the ideal fall-back version. That's why it's a bad idea to overcomplicate it. In MediaWiki it's easy to get access to the source code, even if in read-only mode (BTW: did you know [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Chroma?action=raw <code>?action=raw</code>]). Do you really believe that someone is interested in adding unreadable number pictures and hard-coded line breaks, if styling is normally based on CSS these times? Here is what W3Cschools have to say about [https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_lists.asp HTML Lists]. Please consider to further clarify your intention with the help of some sensible reference. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 18:08, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
	:Not everything has to go along your or W3C's opinions. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[Editor PiotrGrochowski\|info]], [[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/PiotrGrochowski\|contribs]]) 09:05, 24 October 2018 (UTC)		:Not everything has to go along your or W3C's opinions. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[Editor PiotrGrochowski\|info]], [[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/PiotrGrochowski\|contribs]]) 09:05, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

			== Serious warning ==

			You are obviously unable to present your intention in a polite and understandable manner. I assume that your intrusive changes will result in you being permanently put into read-only mode in the near future. I very much regret that you have such difficulties with self-criticism. It is still open how long your writing pause will last. I know from some dedicated Xenwiki users that they plead for a permanent ban and resent me for not having you permanently blocked already. Do me (and you!) a favor and undo your last changes.

			--[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 13:06, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

PiotrGrochowski: off-topic

2018-10-24T09:05:05Z

off-topic

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	:The [[list models]] need not have the same HTML output. Plaintext lists are named so because the output is plaintext, so it can be copied anywhere, including personal notes in Notepad or in the <nowiki><pre></pre></nowiki> safety zone. Defined lists intentionally override the MediaWiki list styling for a defined one. All of these are valid HTML. Do you see any HTML errors in your browser's debugger in [https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=SandBox&oldid=37569#List_model SandBox#List model]? [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[Editor PiotrGrochowski\|info]], [[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/PiotrGrochowski\|contribs]]) 17:39, 23 October 2018 (UTC)		:The [[list models]] need not have the same HTML output. Plaintext lists are named so because the output is plaintext, so it can be copied anywhere, including personal notes in Notepad or in the <nowiki><pre></pre></nowiki> safety zone. Defined lists intentionally override the MediaWiki list styling for a defined one. All of these are valid HTML. Do you see any HTML errors in your browser's debugger in [https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=SandBox&oldid=37569#List_model SandBox#List model]? [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[Editor PiotrGrochowski\|info]], [[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/PiotrGrochowski\|contribs]]) 17:39, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
	:: Why on earth are you insisting to re-invent the wheel?? The wiki source code ''is meant'' to be the ideal fall-back version. That's why it's a bad idea to overcomplicate it. In MediaWiki it's easy to get access to the source code, even if in read-only mode (BTW: did you know [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Chroma?action=raw <code>?action=raw</code>]). Do you really believe that someone is interested in adding unreadable number pictures and hard-coded line breaks, if styling is normally based on CSS these times? Here is what W3Cschools have to say about [https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_lists.asp HTML Lists]. Please consider to further clarify your intention with the help of some sensible reference. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 18:08, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
			=== Why on earth are you insisting to re-invent the wheel?? ===
			The wiki source code ''is meant'' to be the ideal fall-back version. That's why it's a bad idea to overcomplicate it. In MediaWiki it's easy to get access to the source code, even if in read-only mode (BTW: did you know [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Chroma?action=raw <code>?action=raw</code>]). Do you really believe that someone is interested in adding unreadable number pictures and hard-coded line breaks, if styling is normally based on CSS these times? Here is what W3Cschools have to say about [https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_lists.asp HTML Lists]. Please consider to further clarify your intention with the help of some sensible reference. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 18:08, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
			:Not everything has to go along your or W3C's opinions. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[Editor PiotrGrochowski\|info]], [[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/PiotrGrochowski\|contribs]]) 09:05, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Xenwolf: /* Thanks for contributing again */ I'm still not getting your point

2018-10-23T18:08:22Z

Thanks for contributing again: I'm still not getting your point

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	:The [[list models]] need not have the same HTML output. Plaintext lists are named so because the output is plaintext, so it can be copied anywhere, including personal notes in Notepad or in the <nowiki><pre></pre></nowiki> safety zone. Defined lists intentionally override the MediaWiki list styling for a defined one. All of these are valid HTML. Do you see any HTML errors in your browser's debugger in [https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=SandBox&oldid=37569#List_model SandBox#List model]? [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[Editor PiotrGrochowski\|info]], [[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/PiotrGrochowski\|contribs]]) 17:39, 23 October 2018 (UTC)		:The [[list models]] need not have the same HTML output. Plaintext lists are named so because the output is plaintext, so it can be copied anywhere, including personal notes in Notepad or in the <nowiki><pre></pre></nowiki> safety zone. Defined lists intentionally override the MediaWiki list styling for a defined one. All of these are valid HTML. Do you see any HTML errors in your browser's debugger in [https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=SandBox&oldid=37569#List_model SandBox#List model]? [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[Editor PiotrGrochowski\|info]], [[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/PiotrGrochowski\|contribs]]) 17:39, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
			:: Why on earth are you insisting to re-invent the wheel?? The wiki source code ''is meant'' to be the ideal fall-back version. That's why it's a bad idea to overcomplicate it. In MediaWiki it's easy to get access to the source code, even if in read-only mode (BTW: did you know [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Chroma?action=raw <code>?action=raw</code>]). Do you really believe that someone is interested in adding unreadable number pictures and hard-coded line breaks, if styling is normally based on CSS these times? Here is what W3Cschools have to say about [https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_lists.asp HTML Lists]. Please consider to further clarify your intention with the help of some sensible reference. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 18:08, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

PiotrGrochowski: /* Thanks for contributing again */

2018-10-23T17:39:23Z

Thanks for contributing again

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	:The [[list models]] need not have the same HTML output. Plaintext lists are named so because the output is plaintext, so it can be copied anywhere, including personal notes in Notepad or in the <nowiki><pre></pre></nowiki> safety zone. Defined lists intentionally override the MediaWiki list styling for a defined one. All of these are valid HTML. Do you see any HTML errors in your browser's debugger in [https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=SandBox&oldid=37569#List_model SandBox#List model]?		:The [[list models]] need not have the same HTML output. Plaintext lists are named so because the output is plaintext, so it can be copied anywhere, including personal notes in Notepad or in the <nowiki><pre></pre></nowiki> safety zone. Defined lists intentionally override the MediaWiki list styling for a defined one. All of these are valid HTML. Do you see any HTML errors in your browser's debugger in [https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=SandBox&oldid=37569#List_model SandBox#List model]? [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[Editor PiotrGrochowski\|info]], [[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/PiotrGrochowski\|contribs]]) 17:39, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

PiotrGrochowski at 17:39, 23 October 2018

2018-10-23T17:39:10Z

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	Thanks in advance! <br/>		Thanks in advance! <br/>
	--[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 15:10, 23 October 2018 (UTC)		--[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 15:10, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
			:The [[list models]] need not have the same HTML output. Plaintext lists are named so because the output is plaintext, so it can be copied anywhere, including personal notes in Notepad or in the <nowiki><pre></pre></nowiki> safety zone. Defined lists intentionally override the MediaWiki list styling for a defined one. All of these are valid HTML. Do you see any HTML errors in your browser's debugger in [https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=SandBox&oldid=37569#List_model SandBox#List model]?

Xenwolf: /* Thanks for contributing again */ new section

2018-10-23T15:10:10Z

Thanks for contributing again: new section

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	You have been [https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Xenwolf&page=User%3APiotrGrochowski&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=&subtype= blocked for one <s>month</s> <u>week</u>] to carefully study what's been going on in the last ≈90 minutes. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 08:47, 16 October 2018 (UTC)		You have been [https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Xenwolf&page=User%3APiotrGrochowski&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=&subtype= blocked for one <s>month</s> <u>week</u>] to carefully study what's been going on in the last ≈90 minutes. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 08:47, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

			== Thanks for contributing again ==

			Hello Piotr,<br/>
			I ask you to do a critical review of what you are calling "[[list model]]". There will be very few people that will call it like this. And, much more important, MediaWiki will export '''valid HTML''' lists for the simplified wiki markup (<code>#</code>, <code>*</code> and <code>;</code>+<code>:</code>) as well as for list built via HTML markup, the same is true for your templates, but not for the other "options". Please have a look on the resulting HTML delivered by MediaWiki, I mean: check the delivered HTML source code (for example Ctrl+U for Firefox under Windows). <br/>
			Thanks in advance! <br/>
			--[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 15:10, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

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	:The [[list models]] need not have the same HTML output. Plaintext lists are named so because the output is plaintext, so it can be copied anywhere, including personal notes in Notepad or in the <nowiki><pre></pre></nowiki> safety zone. Defined lists intentionally override the MediaWiki list styling for a defined one. All of these are valid HTML. Do you see any HTML errors in your browser's debugger in [https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=SandBox&oldid=37569#List_model SandBox#List model]? [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[Editor PiotrGrochowski\|info]], [[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/PiotrGrochowski\|contribs]]) 17:39, 23 October 2018 (UTC)		:The [[list models]] need not have the same HTML output. Plaintext lists are named so because the output is plaintext, so it can be copied anywhere, including personal notes in Notepad or in the <nowiki><pre></pre></nowiki> safety zone. Defined lists intentionally override the MediaWiki list styling for a defined one. All of these are valid HTML. Do you see any HTML errors in your browser's debugger in [https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=SandBox&oldid=37569#List_model SandBox#List model]? [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[Editor PiotrGrochowski\|info]], [[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/PiotrGrochowski\|contribs]]) 17:39, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
	:: Why on earth are you insisting to re-invent the wheel?? The wiki source code ''is meant'' to be the ideal fall-back version. That's why it's a bad idea to overcomplicate it. In MediaWiki it's easy to get access to the source code, even if in read-only mode (BTW: did you know [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Chroma?action=raw <code>?action=raw</code>]). Do you really believe that someone is interested in adding unreadable number pictures and hard-coded line breaks, if styling is normally based on CSS these times? Here is what W3Cschools have to say about [https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_lists.asp HTML Lists]. Please consider to further clarify your intention with the help of some sensible reference. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 18:08, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
			=== Why on earth are you insisting to re-invent the wheel?? ===
			The wiki source code ''is meant'' to be the ideal fall-back version. That's why it's a bad idea to overcomplicate it. In MediaWiki it's easy to get access to the source code, even if in read-only mode (BTW: did you know [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Chroma?action=raw <code>?action=raw</code>]). Do you really believe that someone is interested in adding unreadable number pictures and hard-coded line breaks, if styling is normally based on CSS these times? Here is what W3Cschools have to say about [https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_lists.asp HTML Lists]. Please consider to further clarify your intention with the help of some sensible reference. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 18:08, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
			:Not everything has to go along your or W3C's opinions. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[Editor PiotrGrochowski\|info]], [[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/PiotrGrochowski\|contribs]]) 09:05, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

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	:The [[list models]] need not have the same HTML output. Plaintext lists are named so because the output is plaintext, so it can be copied anywhere, including personal notes in Notepad or in the <nowiki><pre></pre></nowiki> safety zone. Defined lists intentionally override the MediaWiki list styling for a defined one. All of these are valid HTML. Do you see any HTML errors in your browser's debugger in [https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=SandBox&oldid=37569#List_model SandBox#List model]? [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[Editor PiotrGrochowski\|info]], [[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/PiotrGrochowski\|contribs]]) 17:39, 23 October 2018 (UTC)		:The [[list models]] need not have the same HTML output. Plaintext lists are named so because the output is plaintext, so it can be copied anywhere, including personal notes in Notepad or in the <nowiki><pre></pre></nowiki> safety zone. Defined lists intentionally override the MediaWiki list styling for a defined one. All of these are valid HTML. Do you see any HTML errors in your browser's debugger in [https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=SandBox&oldid=37569#List_model SandBox#List model]? [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[Editor PiotrGrochowski\|info]], [[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/PiotrGrochowski\|contribs]]) 17:39, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
			:: Why on earth are you insisting to re-invent the wheel?? The wiki source code ''is meant'' to be the ideal fall-back version. That's why it's a bad idea to overcomplicate it. In MediaWiki it's easy to get access to the source code, even if in read-only mode (BTW: did you know [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Chroma?action=raw <code>?action=raw</code>]). Do you really believe that someone is interested in adding unreadable number pictures and hard-coded line breaks, if styling is normally based on CSS these times? Here is what W3Cschools have to say about [https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_lists.asp HTML Lists]. Please consider to further clarify your intention with the help of some sensible reference. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 18:08, 23 October 2018 (UTC)