User talk:Ayceman - Revision history

Hkm: /* Your MuseScore plugins no longer work */ new section

2025-03-15T03:13:06Z

Your MuseScore plugins no longer work: new section

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	:::::::: Whatever fits? [[User:Ayceman\|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman\|talk]]) 18:03, 11 April 2021 (UTC)		:::::::: Whatever fits? [[User:Ayceman\|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman\|talk]]) 18:03, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

			== Your MuseScore plugins no longer work ==

			I downloaded your "27ed4 Nelindic" plugin from the link on the MuseScore page, and it shows me a window without any content upon running it. I believe this issue is caused by Musescore updating to Qt 6 at version 4.4. (I suspect your other plugin is also affected by this bug.)

			I have made this clear in the Musescore page. If you're interested in keeping the plugins up to date, I believe the fix is simple.

Ayceman at 18:03, 11 April 2021

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	::::::: I'm not sure. Sometimes we go for -tonic and sometimes -oid. What's the rule? [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 08:20, 11 April 2021 (UTC)		::::::: I'm not sure. Sometimes we go for -tonic and sometimes -oid. What's the rule? [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 08:20, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

	::::::: Whatever fits? [[User:Ayceman\|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman\|talk]]) 18:03, 11 April 2021 (UTC)		:::::::: Whatever fits? [[User:Ayceman\|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman\|talk]]) 18:03, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Ayceman at 18:03, 11 April 2021

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	::::::: I'm not sure. Sometimes we go for -tonic and sometimes -oid. What's the rule? [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 08:20, 11 April 2021 (UTC)		::::::: I'm not sure. Sometimes we go for -tonic and sometimes -oid. What's the rule? [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 08:20, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

			::::::: Whatever fits? [[User:Ayceman\|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman\|talk]]) 18:03, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

FloraC: /* 4L 7s name and notation */ re

2021-04-11T08:20:11Z

4L 7s name and notation: re

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	:::::: Oh, and I just got an idea for 4L 11s. How about '''mynoid'''? Short and to the point. [[User:Ayceman\|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman\|talk]]) 18:33, 10 April 2021 (UTC)		:::::: Oh, and I just got an idea for 4L 11s. How about '''mynoid'''? Short and to the point. [[User:Ayceman\|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman\|talk]]) 18:33, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

			::::::: I'm not sure. Sometimes we go for -tonic and sometimes -oid. What's the rule? [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 08:20, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Ayceman at 18:33, 10 April 2021

2021-04-10T18:33:52Z

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	::::: Ty for explanations. I understood that foreign words aren't anglicized anymore. I'm just not fond of intentionally picking difficult names following the notion of "xen". [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 11:23, 10 April 2021 (UTC)		::::: Ty for explanations. I understood that foreign words aren't anglicized anymore. I'm just not fond of intentionally picking difficult names following the notion of "xen". [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 11:23, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

			:::::: Honestly, the most difficult ones for English seem to be the ones with glottal stops written as apostrophes. Standard practice, but they break up the word flow in English if actually pronounced.

			:::::: Oh, and I just got an idea for 4L 11s. How about '''mynoid'''? Short and to the point. [[User:Ayceman\|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman\|talk]]) 18:33, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

FloraC: /* 4L 7s name and notation */ +sign

2021-04-10T11:23:08Z

4L 7s name and notation: +sign

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	::::: Unfortunately, ''mytonic'' is even more of a problem (''Minortonic family #Mitonic''), so we might stick to mynatonic for now.		::::: Unfortunately, ''mytonic'' is even more of a problem (''Minortonic family #Mitonic''), so we might stick to mynatonic for now.

	::::: Ty for explanations. I understood that foreign words aren't anglicized anymore. I'm just not fond of intentionally picking difficult names following the notion of "xen".		::::: Ty for explanations. I understood that foreign words aren't anglicized anymore. I'm just not fond of intentionally picking difficult names following the notion of "xen". [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 11:23, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

FloraC: /* 4L 7s name and notation */ re

2021-04-10T11:22:45Z

4L 7s name and notation: re

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	::And I'm not sure about the 7L 4s, maybe play up the fact that is works with sixix and 2 different fifths, I'm a bit stuck at naming it. [[User:Ayceman\|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman\|talk]])		::And I'm not sure about the 7L 4s, maybe play up the fact that is works with sixix and 2 different fifths, I'm a bit stuck at naming it. [[User:Ayceman\|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman\|talk]])

	::: Cheers. You know, hanson has the 6th genstep mapped to harmonic 3 whereas myna has the 10th, so myna is essentially "one more cycle", that is, +4 small steps than hanson. On that basis, I suggest 4L 7s based on hanson and 4L 11s based on myna. How about "kleistonic"?		::: Cheers. You know, hanson has the 6th genstep mapped to harmonic 3 whereas myna has the 10th, so myna is essentially "one more cycle", that is, +4 small steps than hanson. On that basis, I suggest 4L 7s based on hanson and 4L 11s based on myna. How about ''kleistonic''?

	::: So this isn't diamond MOS notation. Then why not? Isn't diamond MOS notation meant to handle all the MOSes?		::: So this isn't diamond MOS notation. Then why not? Isn't diamond MOS notation meant to handle all the MOSes?

	::: For the mode name, I wasn't aware double v at word initial is possible in English, but if there's a source (it really isn't a W, right?), then I'm fine with it. Btw I still have a problem with one of the 5L 4s mode names, "Tjatupian". The tj cluster is wild, and if j is pronounced as /j/, I hope to get it respelled as "Tiatupian". [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 06:25, 9 April 2021 (UTC)		::: For the mode name, I wasn't aware double v at word initial is possible in English, but if there's a source (it really isn't a W, right?), then I'm fine with it. Btw I still have a problem with one of the 5L 4s mode names, ''Tjatupian''. The tj cluster is wild, and if j is pronounced as /j/, I hope to get it respelled as ''Tiatupian''. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 06:25, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

	:::: Kleistonic sounds nice, sure. It also avoids the "sm" bit with rather unfortunate implication of derivatives of Greek κλείσμα (kleisma) ['kliz.ma] meaning enema in some languages. I'll make the change.		:::: Kleistonic sounds nice, sure. It also avoids the "sm" bit with rather unfortunate implication of derivatives of Greek κλείσμα (kleisma) ['kliz.ma] meaning enema in some languages. I'll make the change.
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	:::: Oh, and thanks to Inthar for promptly editing the tables before I could. [[User:Ayceman\|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman\|talk]])		:::: Oh, and thanks to Inthar for promptly editing the tables before I could. [[User:Ayceman\|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman\|talk]])

			::::: Unfortunately, ''mytonic'' is even more of a problem (''Minortonic family #Mitonic''), so we might stick to mynatonic for now.

			::::: Ty for explanations. I understood that foreign words aren't anglicized anymore. I'm just not fond of intentionally picking difficult names following the notion of "xen".

Ayceman at 20:55, 9 April 2021

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	:::: A lot of these names don't have to conform to English phonology, same as any foreign name import. They're just hammered into one pronunciation of another. This "vv" is a literal [v], the "tj" mentioned could be either [tj] (ty) or [tʃ] (ch), and it doesn't matter. I pronounce smitonic with an [i]/[ɪ] instead of an [aj], and it's all the same. [[User:Ayceman\|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman\|talk]]) 20:36, 9 April 2021 (UTC)		:::: A lot of these names don't have to conform to English phonology, same as any foreign name import. They're just hammered into one pronunciation of another. This "vv" is a literal [v], the "tj" mentioned could be either [tj] (ty) or [tʃ] (ch), and it doesn't matter. I pronounce smitonic with an [i]/[ɪ] instead of an [aj], and it's all the same. [[User:Ayceman\|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman\|talk]]) 20:36, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

			:::: Oh, and thanks to Inthar for promptly editing the tables before I could. [[User:Ayceman\|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman\|talk]])

Ayceman: /* 4L 7s name and notation */

2021-04-09T20:36:48Z

4L 7s name and notation

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	::: For the mode name, I wasn't aware double v at word initial is possible in English, but if there's a source (it really isn't a W, right?), then I'm fine with it. Btw I still have a problem with one of the 5L 4s mode names, "Tjatupian". The tj cluster is wild, and if j is pronounced as /j/, I hope to get it respelled as "Tiatupian". [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 06:25, 9 April 2021 (UTC)		::: For the mode name, I wasn't aware double v at word initial is possible in English, but if there's a source (it really isn't a W, right?), then I'm fine with it. Btw I still have a problem with one of the 5L 4s mode names, "Tjatupian". The tj cluster is wild, and if j is pronounced as /j/, I hope to get it respelled as "Tiatupian". [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 06:25, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

			:::: Kleistonic sounds nice, sure. It also avoids the "sm" bit with rather unfortunate implication of derivatives of Greek κλείσμα (kleisma) ['kliz.ma] meaning enema in some languages. I'll make the change.

			:::: As far as 4L11s is concerned, I guess mytonic might work to avoid minortonic confusion, but I'm not doing modes, intervals, and notation for 15 note r-2 scales.

			:::: I haven't seen any notice on diamond notation being in anyway standard for these. It seems Inthar is using it in articles he wrote. In any case, the relevant bit is the abstraction of the chroma and the staff notation itself, but with a lack of glyph support for notation software and specific Unicode symbols, I don't see it being a practical standard anytime soon. Personally, I think that #/b works fine for any abstracted chroma in smaller edos, and sagittal is useful for bigger ones. The choice of letters depends more on the number of naturals. I'd go A-G for heptatonic (std), J-Q for octatonic (oneiro), Arab numerals for nonatonic (Armodue), Greek numerals for decatonic, and this Cyrillic 10+1 numeral system for hendecatonic.

			:::: A lot of these names don't have to conform to English phonology, same as any foreign name import. They're just hammered into one pronunciation of another. This "vv" is a literal [v], the "tj" mentioned could be either [tj] (ty) or [tʃ] (ch), and it doesn't matter. I pronounce smitonic with an [i]/[ɪ] instead of an [aj], and it's all the same. [[User:Ayceman\|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman\|talk]]) 20:36, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

FloraC: /* 4L 7s name and notation */ re

2021-04-09T06:25:06Z

4L 7s name and notation: re

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	::And I'm not sure about the 7L 4s, maybe play up the fact that is works with sixix and 2 different fifths, I'm a bit stuck at naming it. [[User:Ayceman\|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman\|talk]])		::And I'm not sure about the 7L 4s, maybe play up the fact that is works with sixix and 2 different fifths, I'm a bit stuck at naming it. [[User:Ayceman\|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman\|talk]])

			::: Cheers. You know, hanson has the 6th genstep mapped to harmonic 3 whereas myna has the 10th, so myna is essentially "one more cycle", that is, +4 small steps than hanson. On that basis, I suggest 4L 7s based on hanson and 4L 11s based on myna. How about "kleistonic"?

			::: So this isn't diamond MOS notation. Then why not? Isn't diamond MOS notation meant to handle all the MOSes?

			::: For the mode name, I wasn't aware double v at word initial is possible in English, but if there's a source (it really isn't a W, right?), then I'm fine with it. Btw I still have a problem with one of the 5L 4s mode names, "Tjatupian". The tj cluster is wild, and if j is pronounced as /j/, I hope to get it respelled as "Tiatupian". [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 06:25, 9 April 2021 (UTC)