User:TallKite - Revision history

TallKite at 22:24, 8 January 2026

2026-01-08T22:24:42Z

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	7-limit gamelan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaLUG_CmNR0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamelan_jegog		7-limit gamelan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaLUG_CmNR0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamelan_jegog

			Pergen (P8/2, P5) has 2 obvious yaza temps. The symmetry is striking. All 4 tetrads have "add seven" names.

			* biruyo & ru (pajara): sharp 5th e.g. 22edo, P = vA4 = ^d5, EU = ^^d2, 4:5:6:7 = Iv,7 9:7:6:5 = I,^7
			* biruyo & gu (injera): a flat fifth e.g. 26edo, P = ^A4 = vd5, EU = vvd2, 4:5:6:7 = I,v7 9:7:6:5 = I^,7

	=== Manifesto ===		=== Manifesto ===

TallKite at 16:08, 17 November 2025

2025-11-17T16:08:15Z

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	https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-write-microtonal-music		https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-write-microtonal-music

			7-limit gamelan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaLUG_CmNR0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamelan_jegog

	=== Manifesto ===		=== Manifesto ===

TallKite: The 5 stages of microtonality

2025-10-31T09:05:22Z

The 5 stages of microtonality

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	A mathematician, a physicist and an engineer are each tasked with finding out the volume of a ball. The mathematician gets a piece of string, measures the circumference, solves for the radius and calculates the volume. The physicist fills a large container with water, puts the ball in it and measures the change in volume when it sinks. The engineer finds the ball's serial number and looks up the volume on the internet.		A mathematician, a physicist and an engineer are each tasked with finding out the volume of a ball. The mathematician gets a piece of string, measures the circumference, solves for the radius and calculates the volume. The physicist fills a large container with water, puts the ball in it and measures the change in volume when it sinks. The engineer finds the ball's serial number and looks up the volume on the internet.

	Three different professions, three different ways of thinking. In the microtonal world, the mathematician is roughly analogous to the theorist, notation creator, xen software author and/or instrument builder/designer. The physicist = composer/arranger, and the engineer = performing musician. Or maybe the instrument builder is more of an engineer. Whatever, the point is there are very different levels of abstraction going on.		Three different professions, three different ways of thinking. In the microtonal world, the mathematician is roughly analogous to the theorist, notation creator, xen software author and/or instrument builder/designer. The physicist is the composer/arranger, and the engineer is the performing musician. Or maybe the instrument builder is more of an engineer. Whatever, the point is there are very different levels of abstraction going on.

	IMO the xenwiki caters far too much to the mathematician and not nearly enough to the physicist/engineer. It creates a feedback loop wherein the mathiness repels non-mathy types and attracts mathy types, who then make the xenwiki even more mathy. ~~two~~ examples:		IMO the xenwiki caters far too much to the mathematician and not nearly enough to the physicist/engineer. It creates a feedback loop wherein the mathiness repels non-mathy types and attracts mathy types, who then make the xenwiki even more mathy. Two examples:

	'''Excessive precision''', especially in cents. No one can hear a tenth of a cent except under certain carefully controlled conditions. Ask yourself, have you ever walked across the room while listening to music? Have you ever noticed the doppler effect causing the tonic to drift off, then drift back when you stop walking? If not, you have no business insisting on tenth of a cent accuracy, let alone the thousandths or even millionths of a cent found here.		'''Excessive precision''', especially in cents. No one can hear a tenth of a cent except under certain carefully controlled conditions. Ask yourself, have you ever walked across the room while listening to music? Have you ever noticed the doppler effect causing the tonic to drift off, then drift back when you stop walking? If not, you have no business insisting on tenth of a cent accuracy, let alone the thousandths or even millionths of a cent found here.
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	* any edo in the thousands or higher, arguably those in the hundreds as well		* any edo in the thousands or higher, arguably those in the hundreds as well
	* sentences like "A maximal evenness scale deriving from the 118 & 665 temperament, known as [[vavoom]], can also theoretically serve as a calendar leap week cycle corresponding to a year length of 365d 5h 48m 37+17/19s, about 7 seconds shorter than the average length of the tropical year today."		* sentences like "A maximal evenness scale deriving from the 118 & 665 temperament, known as [[vavoom]], can also theoretically serve as a calendar leap week cycle corresponding to a year length of 365d 5h 48m 37+17/19s, about 7 seconds shorter than the average length of the tropical year today."

			=== The 5 stages of microtonality: ===

			# 400¢ is a perfectly good major 3rd
			# My that Renaissance choir sounds good!
			# 400¢ is 14¢ sharp of 5/4, yuck
			# And it's 18¢ flat of 14/11, yuck
			# 400¢ is a perfectly good 34/27

	=== Groaner puns ===		=== Groaner puns ===

TallKite at 22:45, 8 September 2025

2025-09-08T22:45:24Z

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TallKite: moved my humorous posts and personal thoughts to here, away from the mainspace.

2025-08-18T15:07:12Z

moved my humorous posts and personal thoughts to here, away from the mainspace.

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TallKite: added svg files of ups and downs in 2 fonts

2025-02-11T10:05:32Z

added svg files of ups and downs in 2 fonts

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	https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-write-microtonal-music		https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-write-microtonal-music

			== ups and downs graphics: ==
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TallKite at 04:45, 8 May 2023

2023-05-08T04:45:54Z

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	2-D 7-limit JI lattice via Bizozogu tempering (2401/2400)		2-D 7-limit JI lattice via Bizozogu tempering (2401/2400)
	[[File:2-D 7-limit JI lattice.pdf\|none\|thumb]]		[[File:2-D 7-limit JI lattice.pdf\|none\|thumb]]note to self:

			Good quora post on microtonality, really should go in the xenwiki somewhere, don't know where though:

			https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-write-microtonal-music

TallKite: added some lattices, pdfs unfortunately

2020-12-30T03:48:08Z

added some lattices, pdfs unfortunately

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	Read about me here: [[KiteGiedraitis \| Kite Giedraitis]]		Read about me here: [[KiteGiedraitis \| Kite Giedraitis]]

			Here's some of my favorite lattices:

			2-D 5-limit JI lattice:
			[[File:2-D 5-limit JI Lattice.pdf\|none\|thumb]]

			3-D tetrahedronal 7-limit JI Lattice
			[[File:3-D tetrahedronal 7-limit JI Lattice.pdf\|none\|thumb]]

			2-D 7-limit JI lattice via Bizozogu tempering (2401/2400)
			[[File:2-D 7-limit JI lattice.pdf\|none\|thumb]]

TallKite: added a link to my "People" page

2020-06-01T09:36:15Z

added a link to my "People" page

New page

Read about me here: [[KiteGiedraitis | Kite Giedraitis]]

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