User:Jerdle/The Ocean - Revision history

Hotcrystal0: Adding category

2026-01-12T14:26:29Z

Adding category

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	While, with positive depth, the fifth gets flatter and flatter, with negative depth, it gets sharper and sharper, converging to 4\7 in each case. I could use atmosphere names here, but really those seem like they'd be better for an alternative to superpyth rather than to mavila.		While, with positive depth, the fifth gets flatter and flatter, with negative depth, it gets sharper and sharper, converging to 4\7 in each case. I could use atmosphere names here, but really those seem like they'd be better for an alternative to superpyth rather than to mavila.

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Hotcrystal0 at 14:22, 12 January 2026

2026-01-12T14:22:45Z

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Hotcrystal0 at 18:00, 7 January 2026

2026-01-07T18:00:20Z

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Jerdle at 07:46, 2 July 2025

2025-07-02T07:46:09Z

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	Beyond hadal, there are no more patent vals (the next temperament being the vaguely ridiculous 47cc & 54b). As such, it is a natural place to stop.		Beyond hadal, there are no more patent vals (the next temperament being the vaguely ridiculous 47cc & 54b). As such, it is a natural place to stop.

	While, with positive depth, the fifth gets flatter and flatter, with negative depth, it gets sharper and sharper, converging to 4\7 in each case.		While, with positive depth, the fifth gets flatter and flatter, with negative depth, it gets sharper and sharper, converging to 4\7 in each case. I could use atmosphere names here, but really those seem like they'd be better for an alternative to superpyth rather than to mavila.

Jerdle at 11:41, 30 June 2025

2025-06-30T11:41:47Z

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	As such, this is an [[equivalence continuum]]. The natural name for it would be something like diatonic-chromatic, due to its equating a certain number of [[2187/2048]] Pythagorean chromatic semitones to a [[16/15]] pental diatonic semitone, but that is already taken by the [[father-3 equivalence continuum]]. It could be apotome-diatonic, but, as all of these temperaments are supported by 7c, the term "ocean" works.		As such, this is an [[equivalence continuum]]. The natural name for it would be something like diatonic-chromatic, due to its equating a certain number of [[2187/2048]] Pythagorean chromatic semitones to a [[16/15]] pental diatonic semitone, but that is already taken by the [[father-3 equivalence continuum]]. It could be apotome-diatonic, but, as all of these temperaments are supported by 7c, the term "ocean" works.

	Some of these temperaments are already named (especially those with low depth), but those with higher depth are not. As such, a series of names based on ocean stratification ~~have~~ been chosen.		Some of these temperaments are already named (especially those with low depth), but those with higher depth are not. As such, a series of names based on ocean stratification has been chosen.
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Jerdle: Mention of the next temperament, explaining why hadal is the end

2025-06-30T10:05:01Z

Mention of the next temperament, explaining why hadal is the end

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	Beyond hadal, there are no more patent vals. As such, it is a natural place to stop.		Beyond hadal, there are no more patent vals (the next temperament being the vaguely ridiculous 47cc & 54b). As such, it is a natural place to stop.

	While, with positive depth, the fifth gets flatter and flatter, with negative depth, it gets sharper and sharper, converging to 4\7 in each case.		While, with positive depth, the fifth gets flatter and flatter, with negative depth, it gets sharper and sharper, converging to 4\7 in each case.

Jerdle at 10:00, 30 June 2025

2025-06-30T10:00:12Z

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	While mavila, meantone and deeptone equate [[5/4]] to a third, ocean temperaments equate it to a (usually diminished) fourth. The number of times the fourth must be diminished to get to ~5/4 is known as the depth of the temperament.		While mavila, meantone and deeptone equate [[5/4]] to a third, ocean temperaments equate it to a (usually diminished) fourth. The number of times the fourth must be diminished to get to ~5/4 is known as the depth of the temperament.

	As such, this is an [[equivalence continuum]]. The natural name for it would be something like diatonic-chromatic, due to its equating a certain number of [[2187/2048]] Pythagorean chromatic semitones to a [[16/15]] pental diatonic semitone, but that is already taken by the [[father-3 equivalence continuum]]. It could be apotome-diatonic, but the ocean ~~just sounds like a better name~~.		As such, this is an [[equivalence continuum]]. The natural name for it would be something like diatonic-chromatic, due to its equating a certain number of [[2187/2048]] Pythagorean chromatic semitones to a [[16/15]] pental diatonic semitone, but that is already taken by the [[father-3 equivalence continuum]]. It could be apotome-diatonic, but, as all of these temperaments are supported by 7c, the term "ocean" works.

	Some of these temperaments are already named (especially those with low depth), but those with higher depth are not. As such, a series of names based on ocean stratification have been chosen.		Some of these temperaments are already named (especially those with low depth), but those with higher depth are not. As such, a series of names based on ocean stratification have been chosen.

Jerdle at 09:59, 30 June 2025

2025-06-30T09:59:31Z

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			Beyond hadal, there are no more patent vals. As such, it is a natural place to stop.

	While, with positive depth, the fifth gets flatter and flatter, with negative depth, it gets sharper and sharper, converging to 4\7 in each case.		While, with positive depth, the fifth gets flatter and flatter, with negative depth, it gets sharper and sharper, converging to 4\7 in each case.

Jerdle: Renamed two of the temperaments

2025-06-30T09:57:51Z

Renamed two of the temperaments

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	As such, this is an [[equivalence continuum]]. The natural name for it would be something like diatonic-chromatic, due to its equating a certain number of [[2187/2048]] Pythagorean chromatic semitones to a [[16/15]] pental diatonic semitone, but that is already taken by the [[father-3 equivalence continuum]]. It could be apotome-diatonic, but the ocean just sounds like a better name.		As such, this is an [[equivalence continuum]]. The natural name for it would be something like diatonic-chromatic, due to its equating a certain number of [[2187/2048]] Pythagorean chromatic semitones to a [[16/15]] pental diatonic semitone, but that is already taken by the [[father-3 equivalence continuum]]. It could be apotome-diatonic, but the ocean just sounds like a better name.

	Some of these temperaments are already named (especially those with low depth), but those with higher depth are not.		Some of these temperaments are already named (especially those with low depth), but those with higher depth are not. As such, a series of names based on ocean stratification have been chosen.
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Jerdle: Added rough meantone equivalents for the deeper temperaments

2025-06-30T09:52:45Z

Added rough meantone equivalents for the deeper temperaments

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	While, with positive depth, the fifth gets flatter and flatter, with negative depth, it gets sharper and sharper, converging to 4\7 in each case.		While, with positive depth, the fifth gets flatter and flatter, with negative depth, it gets sharper and sharper, converging to 4\7 in each case.