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	Anything I haven't listed are ones I haven't used enough to say anything about. And I haven't had ''that'' much experience with any EDO except 12, so take this with a grain of salt.		Anything I haven't listed are ones I haven't used enough to say anything about. And I haven't had ''that'' much experience with any EDO except 12, so take this with a grain of salt.

	[[5edo]] - equipentatonic~~, sounds~~ good ~~for its size~~		[[1edo\|1]] – [[4edo]] & [[6edo]] - all subsets of [[12edo]]

			[[5edo]] - equipentatonic; smallest viable EDO in my opinion and good one to start playing with

	[[7edo]] - equidiatonic, or if you prefer, "discount diatonic"		[[7edo]] - equidiatonic, or if you prefer, "discount diatonic"

			[[8edo]] - Eight! Eight! Eight! The number of the <tt>sed</tt>-user!

	[[12edo]] - 2,1-diatonic. Standard tuning in Western music; has the best support with instruments and software. P5 is great; m3 and M3 are relatively extreme. Highly composite number of steps, so there are a lot of symmetrical chords and scales, and there are only two intervals (plus inversions) that circle around all the notes.		[[12edo]] - 2,1-diatonic. Standard tuning in Western music; has the best support with instruments and software. P5 is great; m3 and M3 are relatively extreme. Highly composite number of steps, so there are a lot of symmetrical chords and scales, and there are only two intervals (plus inversions) that circle around all the notes.

	[[13edo]] - extremely unlike 12edo, and I haven't played with this at all because it's awkward to notate with 5ths notation (and I prefer to work in Western notation and am afraid of reading piano rolls), but even this can sound good! See [[:File:13edo 1MC.mp3\|this]] or [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFpKVHbG2FE this example] for what it can do.		[[13edo]] - 3,−1-diatonic (🐹). extremely unlike 12edo, and I haven't played with this at all because it's awkward to notate with 5ths notation (and I prefer to work in Western notation and am afraid of reading piano rolls), but even this can sound good! See [[:File:13edo 1MC.mp3\|this]] or [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFpKVHbG2FE this example] for what it can do.

	[[15edo]] - 5edo with thrice the notes to approximate 5-intervals as well. Somewhat awkward to notate with 5ths notation. Lacks a good 9/8, making it sound somewhat unusual melodically. Not really a fan of the n2s, which are the building block of porcupine, but MODMOS scales based on it look interesting.		[[15edo]] - 5edo with thrice the notes to approximate 5-intervals as well. Somewhat awkward to notate with 5ths notation. Lacks a good 9/8, making it sound somewhat unusual melodically. Not really a fan of the n2s, which are the building block of porcupine, but MODMOS scales based on it look interesting.
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	[[19edo]] - 3,2-diatonic. Relatively washed-out feel, which might be good or bad depending on the situation. The fifth is tempered quite a lot here. 2\19 isn't so effective as a leading tone, and 1\19 is verging on "too small" for me. Okay septimal intervals, but not as good as 31edo. That being said, it's a relatively small meantone EDO, and semaphore is interesting. Despite its flaws, I'd recommend either this or 17edo for beginners.		[[19edo]] - 3,2-diatonic. Relatively washed-out feel, which might be good or bad depending on the situation. The fifth is tempered quite a lot here. 2\19 isn't so effective as a leading tone, and 1\19 is verging on "too small" for me. Okay septimal intervals, but not as good as 31edo. That being said, it's a relatively small meantone EDO, and semaphore is interesting. Despite its flaws, I'd recommend either this or 17edo for beginners.

	[[22edo]] - 4,1-diatonic. Relatively small EDO with good 3s and 5s. (Or at least one with a different relationship between them.) 7s are ~~okay~~, ~~but I'm not interested in 11 or higher~~. Haven't played much with this EDO because of the syntonic comma.		[[22edo]] - 4,1-diatonic. Relatively small EDO with good 3s and 5s. (Or at least one with a different relationship between them.) 11s are good, with 7s slightly more off. Haven't played much with this EDO because of the syntonic comma.

	[[24edo]] - 4,2-diatonic. Really good 11, and the 7 is at least better than 19edo. Still suffers (or not, YMMV) from being 12edo but with twice the notes.		[[24edo]] - 4,2-diatonic. Really good 11, and the 7 is at least better than 19edo. Still suffers (or not, YMMV) from being 12edo but with twice the notes. I don't recommend this one for beginners because it might give you the misconception that microtonality is just about tacking on more intervals onto 12edo.

	[[31edo]] - 5,3-diatonic. Good all-around meantone temperament, if a little big. Personally, I'd be reluctant to go bigger than this; 31edo is already verging on "too big".		[[31edo]] - 5,3-diatonic. Good all-around meantone temperament, if a little big. It has 11-limit harmony, and it also lends itself to quarter-tone notation. Aside from meantone, it does A-team, mohajira, and orwell, among others. Personally, I'd be reluctant to go bigger than this; 31edo is already verging on "too big".

	[[53edo]] - 9,4-diatonic. Pretty close to JI, I guess.		[[53edo]] - 9,4-diatonic. Pretty close to JI, I guess.

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	[[53edo]] - 9,4-diatonic. Pretty close to JI, I guess.		[[53edo]] - 9,4-diatonic. Pretty close to JI, I guess.

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	[[12edo]] - 2,1-diatonic. Standard tuning in Western music; has the best support with instruments and software. P5 is great; m3 and M3 are relatively extreme. Highly composite number of steps, so there are a lot of symmetrical chords and scales, and there are only two intervals (plus inversions) that circle around all the notes.		[[12edo]] - 2,1-diatonic. Standard tuning in Western music; has the best support with instruments and software. P5 is great; m3 and M3 are relatively extreme. Highly composite number of steps, so there are a lot of symmetrical chords and scales, and there are only two intervals (plus inversions) that circle around all the notes.

			[[13edo]] - extremely unlike 12edo, and I haven't played with this at all because it's awkward to notate with 5ths notation (and I prefer to work in Western notation and am afraid of reading piano rolls), but even this can sound good! See [[:File:13edo 1MC.mp3\|this]] or [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFpKVHbG2FE this example] for what it can do.

	[[15edo]] - 5edo with thrice the notes to approximate 5-intervals as well. Somewhat awkward to notate with 5ths notation. Lacks a good 9/8, making it sound somewhat unusual melodically. Not really a fan of the n2s, which are the building block of porcupine, but MODMOS scales based on it look interesting.		[[15edo]] - 5edo with thrice the notes to approximate 5-intervals as well. Somewhat awkward to notate with 5ths notation. Lacks a good 9/8, making it sound somewhat unusual melodically. Not really a fan of the n2s, which are the building block of porcupine, but MODMOS scales based on it look interesting.

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	[[22edo]] - 4,1-diatonic. Relatively small EDO with good 3s and 5s. (Or at least one with a different relationship between them.) 7s are okay, but I'm not interested in 11 or higher. Haven't played much with this EDO because of the syntonic comma.		[[22edo]] - 4,1-diatonic. Relatively small EDO with good 3s and 5s. (Or at least one with a different relationship between them.) 7s are okay, but I'm not interested in 11 or higher. Haven't played much with this EDO because of the syntonic comma.

	[[24edo]] - ~~meh~~, the ~~extra intervals don't seem very useful to me~~		[[24edo]] - 4,2-diatonic. Really good 11, and the 7 is at least better than 19edo. Still suffers (or not, YMMV) from being 12edo but with twice the notes.

	[[31edo]] - 5,3-diatonic. Good all-around meantone temperament, if a little big. Personally, I'd be reluctant to go bigger than this; 31edo is already verging on "too big".		[[31edo]] - 5,3-diatonic. Good all-around meantone temperament, if a little big. Personally, I'd be reluctant to go bigger than this; 31edo is already verging on "too big".

	[[53edo]] - 9,4-diatonic. Pretty close to JI, I guess.		[[53edo]] - 9,4-diatonic. Pretty close to JI, I guess.

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	[[17edo]] - 3,1-diatonic. Has even more extreme thirds than 12edo. The m3 is closer to 7/6 than 6/5, making minor chords more consonant than major. Because of this, it's suitable for minor pieces. Would recommend either this or 19edo for beginners.		[[17edo]] - 3,1-diatonic. Has even more extreme thirds than 12edo. The m3 is closer to 7/6 than 6/5, making minor chords more consonant than major. Because of this, it's suitable for minor pieces. Would recommend either this or 19edo for beginners.

	[[19edo]] - 3,2-diatonic. Relatively washed-out feel. 2\19 isn't so effective as a leading tone, and 1\19 is verging on "too small" for me. Okay septimal intervals, but not as good as 31edo. That being said, it's a relatively small meantone EDO, and semaphore is interesting. Despite its flaws, I'd recommend either this or 17edo for beginners.		[[19edo]] - 3,2-diatonic. Relatively washed-out feel, which might be good or bad depending on the situation. The fifth is tempered quite a lot here. 2\19 isn't so effective as a leading tone, and 1\19 is verging on "too small" for me. Okay septimal intervals, but not as good as 31edo. That being said, it's a relatively small meantone EDO, and semaphore is interesting. Despite its flaws, I'd recommend either this or 17edo for beginners.

	[[22edo]] - 4,1-diatonic. Relatively small EDO with good 3s and 5s. (Or at least one with a different relationship between them.) 7s are okay, but I'm not interested in 11 or higher. Haven't played much with this EDO because of the syntonic comma.		[[22edo]] - 4,1-diatonic. Relatively small EDO with good 3s and 5s. (Or at least one with a different relationship between them.) 7s are okay, but I'm not interested in 11 or higher. Haven't played much with this EDO because of the syntonic comma.

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	[[31edo]] - 5,3-diatonic. Good all-around meantone temperament, if a little big. Personally, I'd be reluctant to go bigger than this; 31edo is already verging on "too big".		[[31edo]] - 5,3-diatonic. Good all-around meantone temperament, if a little big. Personally, I'd be reluctant to go bigger than this; 31edo is already verging on "too big".

			[[53edo]] - 9,4-diatonic. Pretty close to JI, I guess.

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	[[15edo]] - 5edo with thrice the notes to approximate 5-intervals as well. Somewhat awkward to notate with 5ths notation. Lacks a good 9/8, making it sound somewhat unusual melodically. Not really a fan of the n2s, which are the building block of porcupine, but MODMOS scales based on it look interesting.		[[15edo]] - 5edo with thrice the notes to approximate 5-intervals as well. Somewhat awkward to notate with 5ths notation. Lacks a good 9/8, making it sound somewhat unusual melodically. Not really a fan of the n2s, which are the building block of porcupine, but MODMOS scales based on it look interesting.

	[[17edo]] - 3,1-diatonic. Has even more extreme thirds than 12edo. The m3 is closer to 7/6 than 6/5, making minor chords more consonant than major. Because of this, it's suitable for minor pieces.		[[17edo]] - 3,1-diatonic. Has even more extreme thirds than 12edo. The m3 is closer to 7/6 than 6/5, making minor chords more consonant than major. Because of this, it's suitable for minor pieces. Would recommend either this or 19edo for beginners.

	[[19edo]] - 3,2-diatonic. Relatively washed-out feel. 2\19 isn't so effective as a leading tone, and 1\19 is verging on "too small" for me. Okay septimal intervals, but not as good as 31edo. That being said, it's a relatively small meantone EDO, and semaphore is interesting.		[[19edo]] - 3,2-diatonic. Relatively washed-out feel. 2\19 isn't so effective as a leading tone, and 1\19 is verging on "too small" for me. Okay septimal intervals, but not as good as 31edo. That being said, it's a relatively small meantone EDO, and semaphore is interesting. Despite its flaws, I'd recommend either this or 17edo for beginners.

	[[22edo]] - 4,1-diatonic. Relatively small EDO with good 3s and 5s. (Or at least one with a different relationship between them.) 7s are okay, but I'm not interested in 11 or higher. Haven't played much with this EDO because of the syntonic comma.		[[22edo]] - 4,1-diatonic. Relatively small EDO with good 3s and 5s. (Or at least one with a different relationship between them.) 7s are okay, but I'm not interested in 11 or higher. Haven't played much with this EDO because of the syntonic comma.

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	[[24edo]] - meh, the extra intervals don't seem very useful to me		[[24edo]] - meh, the extra intervals don't seem very useful to me

	[[31edo]] - 5,3-diatonic. Good all-around meantone temperament, if a little big. ~~Not much of a point~~ to go bigger than this~~. (Or rather,~~ 31edo is already verging on "too big".)		[[31edo]] - 5,3-diatonic. Good all-around meantone temperament, if a little big. Personally, I'd be reluctant to go bigger than this; 31edo is already verging on "too big".

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	[[7edo]] - equidiatonic, or if you prefer, "discount diatonic"		[[7edo]] - equidiatonic, or if you prefer, "discount diatonic"

	[[12edo]] - ~~standard~~ tuning in Western music, has the best support with instruments and software. P5 is great; m3 and M3 are relatively extreme. Highly composite number of steps, so there are a lot of symmetrical chords and scales, and there are only two intervals (plus inversions) that circle around all the notes.		[[12edo]] - 2,1-diatonic. Standard tuning in Western music; has the best support with instruments and software. P5 is great; m3 and M3 are relatively extreme. Highly composite number of steps, so there are a lot of symmetrical chords and scales, and there are only two intervals (plus inversions) that circle around all the notes.

	[[15edo]] - 5edo with thrice the notes to approximate 5-intervals as well. Somewhat awkward to notate with 5ths notation. Lacks a good 9/8, making it sound somewhat unusual melodically. Not really a fan of the n2s, which are the building block of porcupine, but MODMOS scales based on it look interesting.		[[15edo]] - 5edo with thrice the notes to approximate 5-intervals as well. Somewhat awkward to notate with 5ths notation. Lacks a good 9/8, making it sound somewhat unusual melodically. Not really a fan of the n2s, which are the building block of porcupine, but MODMOS scales based on it look interesting.
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	[[17edo]] - 3,1-diatonic. Has even more extreme thirds than 12edo. The m3 is closer to 7/6 than 6/5, making minor chords more consonant than major. Because of this, it's suitable for minor pieces.		[[17edo]] - 3,1-diatonic. Has even more extreme thirds than 12edo. The m3 is closer to 7/6 than 6/5, making minor chords more consonant than major. Because of this, it's suitable for minor pieces.

	[[19edo]] - 3,2-diatonic. Relatively washed-out feel. 2\19 isn't so effective as a leading tone, and 1\19 is verging on "too small" for me. Okay septimal intervals, but not as good as 31edo. That being said, it's relatively a small meantone EDO, and semaphore is interesting.		[[19edo]] - 3,2-diatonic. Relatively washed-out feel. 2\19 isn't so effective as a leading tone, and 1\19 is verging on "too small" for me. Okay septimal intervals, but not as good as 31edo. That being said, it's a relatively small meantone EDO, and semaphore is interesting.

	[[22edo]] - 4,1-diatonic. Relatively small EDO with good 3s and 5s. (Or at least one with a different relationship between them.) 7s are okay, but I'm not interested in 11 or higher. Haven't played much with this EDO because of the syntonic comma.		[[22edo]] - 4,1-diatonic. Relatively small EDO with good 3s and 5s. (Or at least one with a different relationship between them.) 7s are okay, but I'm not interested in 11 or higher. Haven't played much with this EDO because of the syntonic comma.
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	[[24edo]] - meh, the extra intervals don't seem very useful to me		[[24edo]] - meh, the extra intervals don't seem very useful to me

	[[31edo]] - 5,3-diatonic. Good all-around meantone temperament, if a little big. Not much of a point to go bigger than this.		[[31edo]] - 5,3-diatonic. Good all-around meantone temperament, if a little big. Not much of a point to go bigger than this. (Or rather, 31edo is already verging on "too big".)

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Anything I haven't listed are ones I haven't used enough to say anything about. And I haven't had ''that'' much experience with any EDO except 12, so take this with a grain of salt.

[[5edo]] - equipentatonic, sounds good for its size

[[7edo]] - equidiatonic, or if you prefer, "discount diatonic"

[[12edo]] - standard tuning in Western music, has the best support with instruments and software. P5 is great; m3 and M3 are relatively extreme. Highly composite number of steps, so there are a lot of symmetrical chords and scales, and there are only two intervals (plus inversions) that circle around all the notes.

[[15edo]] - 5edo with thrice the notes to approximate 5-intervals as well. Somewhat awkward to notate with 5ths notation. Lacks a good 9/8, making it sound somewhat unusual melodically. Not really a fan of the n2s, which are the building block of porcupine, but MODMOS scales based on it look interesting.

[[17edo]] - 3,1-diatonic. Has even more extreme thirds than 12edo. The m3 is closer to 7/6 than 6/5, making minor chords more consonant than major. Because of this, it's suitable for minor pieces.

[[19edo]] - 3,2-diatonic. Relatively washed-out feel. 2\19 isn't so effective as a leading tone, and 1\19 is verging on "too small" for me. Okay septimal intervals, but not as good as 31edo. That being said, it's relatively a small meantone EDO, and semaphore is interesting.

[[22edo]] - 4,1-diatonic. Relatively small EDO with good 3s and 5s. (Or at least one with a different relationship between them.) 7s are okay, but I'm not interested in 11 or higher. Haven't played much with this EDO because of the syntonic comma.

[[24edo]] - meh, the extra intervals don't seem very useful to me

[[31edo]] - 5,3-diatonic. Good all-around meantone temperament, if a little big. Not much of a point to go bigger than this.