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		<id>https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=User:Domin/Gatekeeping&amp;diff=228236&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Domin: Replaced content with &quot;Gatekeeping in xen community exists.&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2026-04-22T10:41:29Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Replaced content with &amp;quot;Gatekeeping in xen community exists.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 10:41, 22 April 2026&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;I&#039;ve been on the receiving end of gatekeeping from the xen community, and both of these are clearly related to bataglia&#039;s actions.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Gatekeeping &lt;/ins&gt;in xen community &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;exists&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;First, years ago, when I first got interested &lt;/del&gt;in xen&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, I found the wiki and all there was some basic information on some JI intervals and endless blocks of temperament info blocks without any explanation. From what I&#039;ve learned later, it was bataglia and his pack unjustly appropriating the name xen to their recreational mathematics mostly unrelated to any sort of music application. Obviously I learned nothing and got chased away. That taint was there from the start and still soils the wiki. At the moment I fail to imagine what would be a worse beginning to the xen wiki. What they did was damage to the xem &lt;/del&gt;community &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;and at the moment I don&#039;t see a reason to forgive them that.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;That damage still lasts.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;The second time was when I joined the XA discord server. I can only describe my experience as jargon hazing.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;A the time I was pretty much a beginner musician and eager to learn, and unfortunately was many times assaulted with walls of inscrutable jargon by people lacking the empathy to care if I know the words they are using or even actually answering my question. When asked for clarification I&#039;d receive more of the same. Trying to check the meaning of the arcane words they were using on the wiki didn&#039;t help much because they were explained in terms of more jargon. Back then I lacked the knowledge to see that these people had mostly little to no skill or interest in making actual music. I wasted so much time on trying to understand and it took some time and experience in actual music making to see that all that was a best marginally useful for making music. Most of that talk was related to rtt. &lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;I was alienated, hurt and wasted time because of bataglias &#039;work&#039;&lt;/del&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Domin</name></author>
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		<id>https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=User:Domin/Gatekeeping&amp;diff=182652&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Domin at 03:04, 23 February 2025</title>
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		<updated>2025-02-23T03:04:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The second time was when I joined the XA discord server. I can only describe my experience as jargon hazing.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The second time was when I joined the XA discord server. I can only describe my experience as jargon hazing.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A the time I was pretty much a beginner musician and eager to learn, and unfortunately was many times assaulted with walls of inscrutable jargon by people lacking the empathy to care if I know the words they are using or even actually answering my question. When asked for clarification I&amp;#039;d receive more of the same. Trying to check the meaning of the arcane words they were using on the wiki didn&amp;#039;t help much because they were explained in terms of more jargon. Back then I lacked the knowledge to see that these people had mostly little to no skill or interest in making actual music. I wasted so much time on trying to understand and it took some time and experience in actual music making to see that all that was a best marginally useful for making music. Most of that talk was related to rtt.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A the time I was pretty much a beginner musician and eager to learn, and unfortunately was many times assaulted with walls of inscrutable jargon by people lacking the empathy to care if I know the words they are using or even actually answering my question. When asked for clarification I&amp;#039;d receive more of the same. Trying to check the meaning of the arcane words they were using on the wiki didn&amp;#039;t help much because they were explained in terms of more jargon. Back then I lacked the knowledge to see that these people had mostly little to no skill or interest in making actual music. I wasted so much time on trying to understand and it took some time and experience in actual music making to see that all that was a best marginally useful for making music. Most of that talk was related to rtt.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I was alienated, hurt and wasted time because of bataglias &#039;work&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&quot; or &#039;philoshophy&lt;/del&gt;&#039;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I was alienated, hurt and wasted time because of bataglias &#039;work&#039;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;So, please tell me, how it&#039;s not poison?&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Domin</name></author>
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		<id>https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=User:Domin/Gatekeeping&amp;diff=182590&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Domin: Created page with &quot;I&#039;ve been on the receiving end of gatekeeping from the xen community, and both of these are clearly related to bataglia&#039;s actions.  First, years ago, when I first got interest...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2025-02-22T07:15:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;I&amp;#039;ve been on the receiving end of gatekeeping from the xen community, and both of these are clearly related to bataglia&amp;#039;s actions.  First, years ago, when I first got interest...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;I&amp;#039;ve been on the receiving end of gatekeeping from the xen community, and both of these are clearly related to bataglia&amp;#039;s actions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
First, years ago, when I first got interested in xen, I found the wiki and all there was some basic information on some JI intervals and endless blocks of temperament info blocks without any explanation. From what I&amp;#039;ve learned later, it was bataglia and his pack unjustly appropriating the name xen to their recreational mathematics mostly unrelated to any sort of music application. Obviously I learned nothing and got chased away. That taint was there from the start and still soils the wiki. At the moment I fail to imagine what would be a worse beginning to the xen wiki. What they did was damage to the xem community and at the moment I don&amp;#039;t see a reason to forgive them that.&lt;br /&gt;
That damage still lasts.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The second time was when I joined the XA discord server. I can only describe my experience as jargon hazing.&lt;br /&gt;
A the time I was pretty much a beginner musician and eager to learn, and unfortunately was many times assaulted with walls of inscrutable jargon by people lacking the empathy to care if I know the words they are using or even actually answering my question. When asked for clarification I&amp;#039;d receive more of the same. Trying to check the meaning of the arcane words they were using on the wiki didn&amp;#039;t help much because they were explained in terms of more jargon. Back then I lacked the knowledge to see that these people had mostly little to no skill or interest in making actual music. I wasted so much time on trying to understand and it took some time and experience in actual music making to see that all that was a best marginally useful for making music. Most of that talk was related to rtt. &lt;br /&gt;
I was alienated, hurt and wasted time because of bataglias &amp;#039;work&amp;quot; or &amp;#039;philoshophy&amp;#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
So, please tell me, how it&amp;#039;s not poison?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Domin</name></author>
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