User:BudjarnLambeth/Over the Hedge - Revision history

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	{{Editable user page\|~~Don't remove stuff, but do feel~~ free to add ~~stuff (e.g.~~ music~~, scales, anything else)~~, and feel free to ~~correct objective~~, ~~factual errors and spelling/punctuation/formatting errors~~.}}		{{Editable user page\|Feel free to add examples of music made with this scale, and feel free to add any new scales, approaches or other concepts you develop based on these ideas.}}


	{{Infobox AFDO\|steps=3746579}}		{{Infobox AFDO\|steps=3746579}}

	'''[[Overtone scale\|Mode 3,746,579 of the harmonic series]]''', also known as '''[[AFDO\|3,746,579 afdo]]''' or the '''Over the Hedge scale''' {{idiosyncratic}}, is a 3,746,579-tone octave-repeating subset of the [[harmonic series]].		'''[[Overtone scale\|Mode 3,746,579 of the harmonic series]]''', also known as '''[[AFDO\|3,746,579 afdo]]''' or the '''Over the Hedge scale''' {{idiosyncratic}}, is a 3,746,579-tone octave-repeating subset of the [[harmonic series]].

BudjarnLambeth at 13:53, 8 November 2024

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	{{Infobox AFDO\|steps=3746579}}		{{Infobox AFDO\|steps=3746579}}
	'''[[Overtone scale\|Mode 3,746,579 of the harmonic series]]''', also known as '''[[AFDO\|3,746,579 afdo]]''' or the '''Over the Hedge scale''' {{idiosyncratic}}, is a 3,746,579-tone octave-repeating subset of the [[harmonic series]].		'''[[Overtone scale\|Mode 3,746,579 of the harmonic series]]''', also known as '''[[AFDO\|3,746,579 afdo]]''' or the '''Over the Hedge scale''' {{idiosyncratic}}, is a 3,746,579-tone octave-repeating subset of the [[harmonic series]].

BudjarnLambeth: BudjarnLambeth moved page Over the Hedge to User:BudjarnLambeth/Over the Hedge: Limited xenharmonic value

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BudjarnLambeth moved page Over the Hedge to User:BudjarnLambeth/Over the Hedge: Limited xenharmonic value

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BudjarnLambeth: /* Scales */

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Scales

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	Each of these scales should be detempered to 1241afdo on half the instruments/tracks, and 3019afdo on the other half, to create a slight rub between them and imply the larger Over the Hedge tuning		Each of these scales should be detempered to 1241afdo on half the instruments/tracks, and 3019afdo on the other half, to create a slight rub between them and imply the larger Over the Hedge tuning

	* H.ammy = 8.058486660131 cET		* H.ammy = 8.058486660131 cET (e.g. 8.06c, 16.12c, 24.18c, …)

	* H.eather = 8.19494288307244 cET		* H.eather = 8.19494288307244 cET

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Scales

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	Note that the large number of decimal places were included because without them, the last couple letters of the name will be slightly wrong.		Note that the large number of decimal places were included because without them, the last couple letters of the name will be slightly wrong.

			=== Comparison ===

			{{Harmonics in cet\|8.058486660131\|columns=15\|prec=2\|title=H.ammy scale}}

			{{Harmonics in cet\|8.19494288307244\|columns=15\|prec=2\|title=H.eather scale}}

			{{Harmonics in cet\|18.3846154\|columns=15\|prec=2\|title=R.J scale}}

			{{Harmonics in cet\|19.7773363118885\|columns=15\|prec=2\|title=S.tella scale}}

			{{Harmonics in cet\|20.356832743952\|columns=15\|prec=2\|title=T.iger scale}}

			{{Harmonics in cet\|22.219742393474\|columns=15\|prec=2\|title=V.erne scale}}

BudjarnLambeth: Added scales

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	You could even use sensors to measure the electrical activity of a plant's leaves, and use that to control a modular synthesizer tuned to the Over the Hedge scale: you could have the Over the Hedge scale be played by an ''actual hedge''.		You could even use sensors to measure the electrical activity of a plant's leaves, and use that to control a modular synthesizer tuned to the Over the Hedge scale: you could have the Over the Hedge scale be played by an ''actual hedge''.

			== Scales ==
			The following scales are designed for use in the Over the Hedge scale.

			They were generated using the same base-26 letters process, but putting most letters after the decimal point to keep the numbers small.

			Each of these scales should be detempered to 1241afdo on half the instruments/tracks, and 3019afdo on the other half, to create a slight rub between them and imply the larger Over the Hedge tuning

			* H.ammy = 8.058486660131 cET

			* H.eather = 8.19494288307244 cET

			* O.zzie = 15.0005230034 cET

			* R.J = 18.3846154 cET

			* S.tella = 19.7773363118885 cET

			* T.iger = 20.356832743952 cET

			* V.erne = 22.219742393474 cET

			Note that the large number of decimal places were included because without them, the last couple letters of the name will be slightly wrong.

BudjarnLambeth: /* Approaches */

2024-09-28T23:53:39Z

Approaches

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	[[1241afdo]] and [[3019afdo]] are probably the best combination to use for this polymicrotonal approach, because they have a large but still sane number of notes, they are within the same order of magnitude as each other, and their lowest common multiple is 3,746,579, so they uniquely identify the Over the Hedge scale.		[[1241afdo]] and [[3019afdo]] are probably the best combination to use for this polymicrotonal approach, because they have a large but still sane number of notes, they are within the same order of magnitude as each other, and their lowest common multiple is 3,746,579, so they uniquely identify the Over the Hedge scale.

	Algorithmic music is also one possible approach to large scales like Over the Hedge. You could have an algorithm randomly explore the pitch space of the Over the Hedge scale. You could even use sensors to measure the electrical activity of a plant's leaves, and use that to control a modular synthesizer tuned to the Over the Hedge scale: you could have the Over the Hedge scale be played by an ''actual hedge''.		Algorithmic music is also one possible approach to large scales like Over the Hedge. You could have an algorithm randomly explore the pitch space of the Over the Hedge scale.

			You could even use sensors to measure the electrical activity of a plant's leaves, and use that to control a modular synthesizer tuned to the Over the Hedge scale: you could have the Over the Hedge scale be played by an ''actual hedge''.

BudjarnLambeth at 23:47, 28 September 2024

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	The prime factorisation of 3,746,579 is actually 17 x 73 x 3019. This makes the Over the Hedge scale surprisingly interesting from a [[primodality]] perspective, because it contains a very unique set of intervals: millions of available intervals but with no Over-2, -3, -5, -7, -11 or even -13 intervals to be found anywhere.		The prime factorisation of 3,746,579 is actually 17 x 73 x 3019. This makes the Over the Hedge scale surprisingly interesting from a [[primodality]] perspective, because it contains a very unique set of intervals: millions of available intervals but with no Over-2, -3, -5, -7, -11 or even -13 intervals to be found anywhere.

	Of course, the sheer number of notes does make the Over the Hedge scale impractical to explore in practice, at least without some way to eliminate most of the intervals and focus on a chosen few ~~(something like a few-hundred-note [[neji]] perhaps)~~.		Of course, the sheer number of notes does make the Over the Hedge scale impractical to explore in practice, at least without some way to eliminate most of the intervals and focus on a chosen few.

	[[~~1241afdo~~]] would make much more sense for practical use, being 17 x 73.		[[323afdo]] would make much more sense for practical use, being 17 x 19. Or if you want to keep the 73, then [[1241afdo]], which is 17 x 73.

	Or ~~perhaps something like~~ [[~~2431afdo~~]], which is 11 x ~~13 x 17~~.

	Still, if you're daring and crazy enough to venture over the hedge, well, no one can stop you. 3 million intervals are waiting for you.		Still, if you're daring and crazy enough to venture over the hedge, well, no one can stop you. 3 million intervals are waiting for you.

BudjarnLambeth: /* Approaches */

2024-09-24T20:36:49Z

Approaches

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	One way to do that is to make a neji scale using a large edo of interest.		One way to do that is to make a neji scale using a large edo of interest.

	Another way is to try a [[polymicrotonal]] approach. The Over the Hedge scale contains AFDOs {{AFDOs\|17, 73, 1241, 3019, 51323, and 220387}} above its root, without rotating to any other mode. So, you could use ~~multiple~~ of those AFDOs at the same time, and you would technically be playing within the Over the Hedge scale.		Another way is to try a [[polymicrotonal]] approach. The Over the Hedge scale contains AFDOs {{AFDOs\|17, 73, 1241, 3019, 51323, and 220387}} above its root, without rotating to any other mode. So, you could use 2 or 3 of those AFDOs at the same time, and you would technically be playing within the Over the Hedge scale.

	You could even combine this with the neji approach: make nejis from each of those ~~smaller~~ AFDOs, and then have music in ~~multiple~~ nejis playing at the same time.		You could even combine this with the neji approach: make nejis from each of those chosen AFDOs, and then have music in each of those nejis playing at the same time.

	{{Infobox AFDO\|steps=3019}}		{{Infobox AFDO\|steps=3019}}

BudjarnLambeth at 05:53, 24 September 2024

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	You could even combine this with the neji approach: make nejis from each of those smaller AFDOs, and then have music in multiple nejis playing at the same time.		You could even combine this with the neji approach: make nejis from each of those smaller AFDOs, and then have music in multiple nejis playing at the same time.

	1241afdo and 3019afdo are probably the best combination to use for this polymicrotonal approach, because they have a large but still sane number of notes, they are within the same order of magnitude as each other, and their lowest common multiple is 3,746,579, so they uniquely identify the Over the Hedge scale.		{{Infobox AFDO\|steps=3019}}
			{{Infobox AFDO\|steps=1241}}

			[[1241afdo]] and [[3019afdo]] are probably the best combination to use for this polymicrotonal approach, because they have a large but still sane number of notes, they are within the same order of magnitude as each other, and their lowest common multiple is 3,746,579, so they uniquely identify the Over the Hedge scale.

	Algorithmic music is also one possible approach to large scales like Over the Hedge. You could have an algorithm randomly explore the pitch space of the Over the Hedge scale. You could even use sensors to measure the electrical activity of a plant's leaves, and use that to control a modular synthesizer tuned to the Over the Hedge scale: you could have the Over the Hedge scale be played by an ''actual hedge''.		Algorithmic music is also one possible approach to large scales like Over the Hedge. You could have an algorithm randomly explore the pitch space of the Over the Hedge scale. You could even use sensors to measure the electrical activity of a plant's leaves, and use that to control a modular synthesizer tuned to the Over the Hedge scale: you could have the Over the Hedge scale be played by an ''actual hedge''.