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BudjarnLambeth: /* Possible alternative names? */

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Possible alternative names?

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	===== Possible alternative names? =====		===== Possible alternative names? =====
	* "Pelographic" = "pelog approximated with RTT graphs", also sounds like "geographic" reflecting the cross cultural collaboration involved in discovering the temperament		* "Pelographic" = "pelog approximated with RTT graphs", also sounds like "geographic" reflecting the cross cultural collaboration involved in discovering the temperament
			* "Pelogismic" = “a full 7 limit temperament generated by the pelogic comma” (no existing temperament is called pelogismic so the name is free)
	* "Peloglike" = "bears a likeness to pelog"		* "Peloglike" = "bears a likeness to pelog"
	* "Pelogram" = "pelog approximated with RTT diagrams"		* "Pelogram" = "pelog approximated with RTT diagrams"

BudjarnLambeth: /* Possible alternative names? */

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Possible alternative names?

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	**** both display exceptionally low [[complexity]] and [[badness]] in the 2.3.5 subgroup		**** both display exceptionally low [[complexity]] and [[badness]] in the 2.3.5 subgroup
	**** both have [[12edo]] as their smallest viable [[equal tuning]]		**** both have [[12edo]] as their smallest viable [[equal tuning]]


			* "Zurutal, zurutar & zuruti":
			** The letter Z looks like a big barn door with the diagonal beam to stabilise it, representing how simple yet stable srutal is and how much harmonic weight it can bear with very few notes
			** The letter Z looks like the long winding road the temperaments took across the world to become what they are here and now
			** The letter Z calls to mind the idea of “alpha and omega”, of infinity and timelessness, representing the ancient tradition of shruti, and the cyclic nature of Hindu cosmology and the way that is reflected in the cyclic nature of the [[:Category:22-tone scales\|22-tone]] scale of generators and periods


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	** The short "k" sound represents how nimble and efficient the tunings are at approximating 5-limit JI		** The short "k" sound represents how nimble and efficient the tunings are at approximating 5-limit JI
	** The letter K evokes the word “king”, alluding to srutal’s elevated position at the top of the ranking of low harmonic entropy linear temperaments		** The letter K evokes the word “king”, alluding to srutal’s elevated position at the top of the ranking of low harmonic entropy linear temperaments


	* "Zurutal, zurutar & zuruti":
	** The letter Z looks like a big barn door with the diagonal beam to stabilise it, representing how simple yet stable srutal is and how much harmonic weight it can bear with very few notes
	** The letter Z looks like the winding path the temperaments took across the world to become what they are here and now
	** The letter Z calls to mind the idea of “alpha and omega”, of infinity and timelessness, representing the ancient tradition of shruti, and the cyclic nature of Hindu cosmology and the way that is reflected in the cyclic nature of the [[:Category:22-tone scales\|22-tone]] scale of generators and periods

BudjarnLambeth: /* Possible alternative names? */

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Possible alternative names?

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	===== Possible alternative names? =====		===== Possible alternative names? =====
	* "Pelographic" = "pelog approximated with RTT graphs"		* "Pelographic" = "pelog approximated with RTT graphs", also sounds like "geographic" reflecting the cross cultural collaboration involved in discovering the temperament
	* "Peloglike" = "bears a likeness to pelog"		* "Peloglike" = "bears a likeness to pelog"
	* "Pelogram" = "pelog approximated with RTT diagrams"		* "Pelogram" = "pelog approximated with RTT diagrams"

BudjarnLambeth: /* Pelogic */

2024-11-17T13:13:54Z

Pelogic

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	* "Pelomatic" = "pelog approximated with mathematics"		* "Pelomatic" = "pelog approximated with mathematics"

	;Difficulty of renaming - ~~Low~~. ~~I don't know of temperaments named after pelogic nor much~~ written about it~~, so it should be painless to change~~.		;Difficulty of renaming - Medium. There is a moderate amount written about it around the wiki.

	==== Srutal, shrutar, sruti ====		==== Srutal, shrutar, sruti ====

BudjarnLambeth: /* Slendi */

2024-11-17T12:55:46Z

Slendi

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	==== Slendi ====		==== Slendi ====
	It is unclear whether [[slendi]] temperament is related to slendro or not. If it is, then this name is very good because it gives credit without being close enough to get confused.		It is unclear whether [[slendi]] temperament is related to slendro or not. If it is, then this name is very good because it gives credit without being close enough to get confused. If that’s the case, then it should be moved up to 5 stars.

	If it is not, however, the name is a tad too close to slendro, and risks benefiting off of an association with slendro that doesn’t exist. It isn’t close enough to warrant a name change, but it’s close enough that it can’t score any higher than 3 stars.		If it is not, however, the name is a tad too close to slendro, and risks benefiting off of an association with slendro that doesn’t exist. It isn’t close enough to warrant a name change, but it’s close enough that it can’t score any higher than 3 stars.

BudjarnLambeth: /* Slendri */

2024-11-17T12:55:09Z

Slendri

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	Rishi gets a ''barely'' passing grade.		Rishi gets a ''barely'' passing grade.

	==== ~~Slendri~~ ====		==== Slendi ====
	It is unclear whether [[~~slendri~~]] temperament is related to slendro or not. If it is, then this name is very good because it gives credit without being close enough to get confused.		It is unclear whether [[slendi]] temperament is related to slendro or not. If it is, then this name is very good because it gives credit without being close enough to get confused.

	If it is not, however, the name is a tad too close to slendro, and risks benefiting off of an association with slendro that doesn’t exist. It isn’t close enough to warrant a name change, but it’s close enough that it can’t score any higher than 3 stars.		If it is not, however, the name is a tad too close to slendro, and risks benefiting off of an association with slendro that doesn’t exist. It isn’t close enough to warrant a name change, but it’s close enough that it can’t score any higher than 3 stars.

BudjarnLambeth: /* 3 stars (pass) */

2024-11-17T12:54:50Z

3 stars (pass)

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	Rishi gets a ''barely'' passing grade.		Rishi gets a ''barely'' passing grade.

			==== Slendri ====
			It is unclear whether [[slendri]] temperament is related to slendro or not. If it is, then this name is very good because it gives credit without being close enough to get confused.

			If it is not, however, the name is a tad too close to slendro, and risks benefiting off of an association with slendro that doesn’t exist. It isn’t close enough to warrant a name change, but it’s close enough that it can’t score any higher than 3 stars.

	==== Slendrismic ====		==== Slendrismic ====

BudjarnLambeth: /* Possible alternative names? */

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Possible alternative names?

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	<small> ^''(Not “gamelismic”, because that is already taken by a full 7 limit temperament - “ismic” usually implies “not a subgroup temperament”, hence just “ism”) instead)'' </small>		<small> ^''(Not “gamelismic”, because that is already taken by a full 7 limit temperament - “ismic” usually implies “not a subgroup temperament”, hence just “ism”) instead)'' </small>

	;Difficulty of renaming - ~~Low~~. ~~I don't know~~ of temperaments ~~named after slendric nor much written about it, so it should be painless~~ to ~~change~~.		;Difficulty of renaming - High. Slendric is mentioned quite a bit around the place, it is one of few temperaments to have a dedicated [[lumatone]] mapping listed on the wiki.

	=== 3 stars (pass) ===		=== 3 stars (pass) ===

BudjarnLambeth: /* Biyativice */

2024-11-16T02:46:59Z

Biyativice

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	==== Biyativice ====		==== Biyativice ====
	[[2646/2645\|Biyativice]] is a vicesimotertial ([[23-limit]) temperament [[Temper out\|tempering out]] the biyatisma (same one that defines the biyatismic temperament). The name does a good job of clearly showing it’s inspired by biyati, while also showing that it’s different, and part of ''how'' it’s different (it involves [[23/1\|harmonic 23]]). A very solid name!		[[2646/2645\|Biyativice]] is a vicesimotertial ([[23-limit]]) temperament [[Temper out\|tempering out]] the biyatisma (same one that defines the biyatismic temperament). The name does a good job of clearly showing it’s inspired by biyati, while also showing that it’s different, and part of ''how'' it’s different (it involves [[23/1\|harmonic 23]]). A very solid name!

	==== Mavila ====		==== Mavila ====

BudjarnLambeth at 02:46, 16 November 2024

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	=== 5 stars (high distinction) ===		=== 5 stars (high distinction) ===

			==== Biyativice ====
			[[2646/2645\|Biyativice]] is a vicesimotertial ([[23-limit]) temperament [[Temper out\|tempering out]] the biyatisma (same one that defines the biyatismic temperament). The name does a good job of clearly showing it’s inspired by biyati, while also showing that it’s different, and part of ''how'' it’s different (it involves [[23/1\|harmonic 23]]). A very solid name!

	==== Mavila ====		==== Mavila ====
	[[Mavila]] is not directly named after a traditional [[African\|Chopi]] tuning, but is instead named after a village where that tuning was used.		[[Mavila]] temperament is not directly named after a traditional [[African\|Chopi]] tuning, but is instead named after a village where that tuning was used.

	This is a great way to go about it, I think.		This is a great way to go about it, I think.