Template talk:Infobox interval - Revision history

Fredg999: /* Make harmonic entropy optional */ Done

2025-08-04T19:03:51Z

Make harmonic entropy optional: Done

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	I suppose similar things could probably be said about Tenney/Weil/Wilson height, but I don't really feel strongly about those.		I suppose similar things could probably be said about Tenney/Weil/Wilson height, but I don't really feel strongly about those.
	– [[User:Sintel\|Sintel🎏]] ([[User_talk:Sintel\|talk]]) 17:55, 4 August 2025 (UTC)		– [[User:Sintel\|Sintel🎏]] ([[User_talk:Sintel\|talk]]) 17:55, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

			: Done (for harmonic entropy only). --[[User:Fredg999\|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999\|talk]]) 19:03, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

Sintel: /* Make harmonic entropy optional */ new section

2025-08-04T17:55:17Z

Make harmonic entropy optional: new section

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	: Oh, I know! Maybe just add optional <code>factors</code> which shows instead of <code>monzo</code> when present? Monzo can as well be present too for the sake of completeness, but it wouldn’t spam the page. Also maybe factors need a template, I’ll tinker with this. --[[User:Arseniiv\|Arseniiv]] ([[User talk:Arseniiv\|talk]]) 20:06, 7 November 2020 (UTC)		: Oh, I know! Maybe just add optional <code>factors</code> which shows instead of <code>monzo</code> when present? Monzo can as well be present too for the sake of completeness, but it wouldn’t spam the page. Also maybe factors need a template, I’ll tinker with this. --[[User:Arseniiv\|Arseniiv]] ([[User talk:Arseniiv\|talk]]) 20:06, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

			== Make harmonic entropy optional ==

			I don't think the harmonic entropy of intervals is useful enough to prominantly displayed in the infobox.
			HE itself is already a questionable model, and even then it is mostly useful relative to other intervals: if an interval has a HE of 4.25 bits, that tells me absolutely nothing!
			I'd be surprised if anyone actually finds this information useful.

			Displaying this should be made opt-in, which would remove it from most pages immediately.

			I suppose similar things could probably be said about Tenney/Weil/Wilson height, but I don't really feel strongly about those.
			– [[User:Sintel\|Sintel🎏]] ([[User_talk:Sintel\|talk]]) 17:55, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

ArrowHead294: ArrowHead294 moved page Template talk:Infobox Interval to Template talk:Infobox interval: WP:NCCAPS

2025-02-27T14:16:12Z

ArrowHead294 moved page Template talk:Infobox Interval to Template talk:Infobox interval: WP:NCCAPS

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Arseniiv: /* Monzo better optional? */ idea

2020-11-07T20:06:19Z

Monzo better optional?: idea

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	: Maybe allow writing something like <code>large</code> as a value for it, and that won’t add [[:Category:Todo:add interval monzo]] but neither it would show that row. --[[User:Arseniiv\|Arseniiv]] ([[User talk:Arseniiv\|talk]]) 19:14, 7 November 2020 (UTC)		: Maybe allow writing something like <code>large</code> as a value for it, and that won’t add [[:Category:Todo:add interval monzo]] but neither it would show that row. --[[User:Arseniiv\|Arseniiv]] ([[User talk:Arseniiv\|talk]]) 19:14, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

			: Oh, I know! Maybe just add optional <code>factors</code> which shows instead of <code>monzo</code> when present? Monzo can as well be present too for the sake of completeness, but it wouldn’t spam the page. Also maybe factors need a template, I’ll tinker with this. --[[User:Arseniiv\|Arseniiv]] ([[User talk:Arseniiv\|talk]]) 20:06, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Arseniiv: /* Monzo better optional? */ re

2020-11-07T19:14:07Z

Monzo better optional?: re

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	We have some intervals with high p-limits. The <code>Monzo</code> value sometimes tend to explode the frame and its informational value is questionable (who really wants to count all the zeros)? The best would be to make (<code>Ratio</code> or <code>Monzo</code>) mandatory but I doubt that a really great implementation will be possible. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 18:39, 7 November 2020 (UTC)		We have some intervals with high p-limits. The <code>Monzo</code> value sometimes tend to explode the frame and its informational value is questionable (who really wants to count all the zeros)? The best would be to make (<code>Ratio</code> or <code>Monzo</code>) mandatory but I doubt that a really great implementation will be possible. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 18:39, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

			: Maybe allow writing something like <code>large</code> as a value for it, and that won’t add [[:Category:Todo:add interval monzo]] but neither it would show that row. --[[User:Arseniiv\|Arseniiv]] ([[User talk:Arseniiv\|talk]]) 19:14, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Arseniiv: /* Auto-applying a category? */ wrong indent

2020-11-07T19:09:56Z

Auto-applying a category?: wrong indent

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	::: @FloraC: right! Good that you mentioned the commas! Maybe some sort of <code>category</code> then? - or will that be to confusing? --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 18:33, 7 November 2020 (UTC)		::: @FloraC: right! Good that you mentioned the commas! Maybe some sort of <code>category</code> then? - or will that be to confusing? --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 18:33, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

	::: Limit seems a good addition, as it’s probably a pain to calculate with MediaWiki functions? --[[User:Arseniiv\|Arseniiv]] ([[User talk:Arseniiv\|talk]]) 19:09, 7 November 2020 (UTC)		:: Limit seems a good addition, as it’s probably a pain to calculate with MediaWiki functions? --[[User:Arseniiv\|Arseniiv]] ([[User talk:Arseniiv\|talk]]) 19:09, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

	== Monzo better optional? ==		== Monzo better optional? ==

	We have some intervals with high p-limits. The <code>Monzo</code> value sometimes tend to explode the frame and its informational value is questionable (who really wants to count all the zeros)? The best would be to make (<code>Ratio</code> or <code>Monzo</code>) mandatory but I doubt that a really great implementation will be possible. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 18:39, 7 November 2020 (UTC)		We have some intervals with high p-limits. The <code>Monzo</code> value sometimes tend to explode the frame and its informational value is questionable (who really wants to count all the zeros)? The best would be to make (<code>Ratio</code> or <code>Monzo</code>) mandatory but I doubt that a really great implementation will be possible. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 18:39, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Arseniiv: /* Auto-applying a category? */ re adding a p-limit argument

2020-11-07T19:09:12Z

Auto-applying a category?: re adding a p-limit argument

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	::: @FloraC: right! Good that you mentioned the commas! Maybe some sort of <code>category</code> then? - or will that be to confusing? --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 18:33, 7 November 2020 (UTC)		::: @FloraC: right! Good that you mentioned the commas! Maybe some sort of <code>category</code> then? - or will that be to confusing? --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 18:33, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

			::: Limit seems a good addition, as it’s probably a pain to calculate with MediaWiki functions? --[[User:Arseniiv\|Arseniiv]] ([[User talk:Arseniiv\|talk]]) 19:09, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

	== Monzo better optional? ==		== Monzo better optional? ==

	We have some intervals with high p-limits. The <code>Monzo</code> value sometimes tend to explode the frame and its informational value is questionable (who really wants to count all the zeros)? The best would be to make (<code>Ratio</code> or <code>Monzo</code>) mandatory but I doubt that a really great implementation will be possible. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 18:39, 7 November 2020 (UTC)		We have some intervals with high p-limits. The <code>Monzo</code> value sometimes tend to explode the frame and its informational value is questionable (who really wants to count all the zeros)? The best would be to make (<code>Ratio</code> or <code>Monzo</code>) mandatory but I doubt that a really great implementation will be possible. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 18:39, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Xenwolf: /* Monzo better optional? */ new section

2020-11-07T18:39:59Z

Monzo better optional?: new section

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	::: @FloraC: right! Good that you mentioned the commas! Maybe some sort of <code>category</code> then? - or will that be to confusing? --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 18:33, 7 November 2020 (UTC)		::: @FloraC: right! Good that you mentioned the commas! Maybe some sort of <code>category</code> then? - or will that be to confusing? --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 18:33, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

			== Monzo better optional? ==

			We have some intervals with high p-limits. The <code>Monzo</code> value sometimes tend to explode the frame and its informational value is questionable (who really wants to count all the zeros)? The best would be to make (<code>Ratio</code> or <code>Monzo</code>) mandatory but I doubt that a really great implementation will be possible. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 18:39, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Xenwolf: /* Auto-applying a category? */ re

2020-11-07T18:33:30Z

Auto-applying a category?: re

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	:: None of Interval, Ratio, or Interval ratio should be added. (1) The page can be about a comma (not an "interval"). (2) The page title can be a name (not a ratio). [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 18:29, 7 November 2020 (UTC)		:: None of Interval, Ratio, or Interval ratio should be added. (1) The page can be about a comma (not an "interval"). (2) The page title can be a name (not a ratio). [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 18:29, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

			::: @FloraC: right! Good that you mentioned the commas! Maybe some sort of <code>category</code> then? - or will that be to confusing? --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 18:33, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

FloraC: re

2020-11-07T18:29:53Z

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	: Yes, in principle, but I'm not clear what the best category (or categories) should be. We have so far mostly: Interval, Interval ratio, Ratio, I also think that the prime limit could (better: should) be added to the parameters: it's applicable in every case and never goes beyond the limits (as monzos do sometimes see 71-limit). --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 18:15, 7 November 2020 (UTC)		: Yes, in principle, but I'm not clear what the best category (or categories) should be. We have so far mostly: Interval, Interval ratio, Ratio, I also think that the prime limit could (better: should) be added to the parameters: it's applicable in every case and never goes beyond the limits (as monzos do sometimes see 71-limit). --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 18:15, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

			:: None of Interval, Ratio, or Interval ratio should be added. (1) The page can be about a comma (not an "interval"). (2) The page title can be a name (not a ratio). [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 18:29, 7 November 2020 (UTC)