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		<title>Xenwolf: Xenwolf moved page Talk:Vals and Tuning Space/WikispacesArchive to Talk:Vals and tuning space/WikispacesArchive: following an earlier move of the base pages</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;1 revision imported: Moving archived Wikispaces discussion to subpage&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>Wikispaces&gt;FREEZE at 18:01, 1 October 2018</title>
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== eliminating the second paragraph ==&lt;br /&gt;
I just edited the second paragraph here, which is like a little mini-tutorial on how to read mapping matrices that I believe Igs wrote, but I think it&amp;#039;s out of place now that we have the General Theory pages and the non-mathematical Vals page. It&amp;#039;s not that I don&amp;#039;t appreciate what Igs was trying to do, but that paragraph definitely clutters up this page and would go better on the corresponding General Theory Vals page. Except I already have something similar on that page, so it&amp;#039;s a bit redundant.&lt;br /&gt;
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Any objections if I scrap it? I don&amp;#039;t believe it&amp;#039;s something Gene originally wrote.&lt;br /&gt;
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- &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;mbattaglia1&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; December 16, 2011, 11:19:49 PM UTC-0800&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&amp;#039;t find the way it is written to be very clear, but it isn&amp;#039;t intended for me. If you remove it, make sure what remains still makes sense, of course.&lt;br /&gt;
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- &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;genewardsmith&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; December 17, 2011, 10:05:45 AM UTC-0800&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cleaned up ==&lt;br /&gt;
I saw that Pete Kosmorsky added a few things, some of which weren&amp;#039;t technically accurate. I removed the inaccuracies but cleared up a point involving the way the word &amp;quot;generator&amp;quot; was used in the first paragraph that I feel makes it more consistent with the rest of the article.&lt;br /&gt;
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- &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;mbattaglia1&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; September 13, 2011, 08:43:37 AM UTC-0700&lt;br /&gt;
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== What is a val? ==&lt;br /&gt;
(Please give a simple answer!)&lt;br /&gt;
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The references to wikipedia help not very much.&lt;br /&gt;
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We should have better a handful concise definitions from &amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;our&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt; point of view.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks in advance for working on that!&lt;br /&gt;
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- &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;xenwolf&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; June 30, 2011, 07:20:27 AM UTC-0700&lt;br /&gt;
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