https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3ASupra12 2026-06-29T12:05:25Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.43.6 https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Supra12&diff=35657&oldid=prev 2018-10-01T18:02:43Z

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Mike Battaglia https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Supra12&diff=35656&oldid=prev 2018-10-01T18:01:16Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 18:01, 1 October 2018</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">= ARCHIVED WIKISPACES DISCUSSION BELOW =</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{{WSArchiveLink}}</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'''All discussion below is archived from the Wikispaces export in its original unaltered form.'''</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">----</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">== subgroup question ==</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">This looks like subgroup 2.3.25.11.13 to me. No mode of supra[12] gets any closer to 7/4 than 16.888¢ away, while a whopping 8 modes of supra[12] come within 1.2¢ of 25/16, and 3 modes get within 5¢ of 13/8, which occupies the same slot where 8/5 dwells in regular superpyth[12]. What's more, ratios of 13 in supra[12] combine with other prime powers in the scale to make nice genera. For instance, you've got 26:32:39:48 in 2 modes, you've got 32:39:48:52 in 2 modes, and if we count the incomplete genera, you've got 13:16:22 triads in 3 modes and 13:16:25 triads in the same 3. The same point about nice genera, complete and incomplete, applies to 25 as to 13, only more so, because more supra[12] modes have a 25. So my question is this. Is there some consistency issue that keeps us from including 25 and 13 in the supra[12] subgroup? Or should 25 and 13 indeed be included?</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">- '''manuphonic''' December 01, 2017, 04:17:35 AM UTC-0800</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">----</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> </table>

Wikispaces>FREEZE https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Supra12&diff=29597&oldid=prev 2018-07-17T00:00:00Z

<p></p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>= ARCHIVED WIKISPACES DISCUSSION BELOW =<br /> &#039;&#039;&#039;All discussion below is archived from the Wikispaces export in its original unaltered form.&#039;&#039;&#039;<br /> ----<br /> <br /> == subgroup question ==<br /> This looks like subgroup 2.3.25.11.13 to me. No mode of supra[12] gets any closer to 7/4 than 16.888¢ away, while a whopping 8 modes of supra[12] come within 1.2¢ of 25/16, and 3 modes get within 5¢ of 13/8, which occupies the same slot where 8/5 dwells in regular superpyth[12]. What&#039;s more, ratios of 13 in supra[12] combine with other prime powers in the scale to make nice genera. For instance, you&#039;ve got 26:32:39:48 in 2 modes, you&#039;ve got 32:39:48:52 in 2 modes, and if we count the incomplete genera, you&#039;ve got 13:16:22 triads in 3 modes and 13:16:25 triads in the same 3. The same point about nice genera, complete and incomplete, applies to 25 as to 13, only more so, because more supra[12] modes have a 25. So my question is this. Is there some consistency issue that keeps us from including 25 and 13 in the supra[12] subgroup? Or should 25 and 13 indeed be included?<br /> <br /> - &#039;&#039;&#039;manuphonic&#039;&#039;&#039; December 01, 2017, 04:17:35 AM UTC-0800<br /> ----</div>

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