Talk:Quartismic family - Revision history

Aura at 18:23, 13 September 2020

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	::: If so, [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=270_159_224_472&limit=11&tuning=po this temperament] might make a good example of the base temperament. From there, I suspect that [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=159_224_472&limit=11&tuning=po this one] might make an example of a good Altierran temperament. Also, I figured I might as well repost these links in the discussion seeing as they were deleted by the previous revision and may yet be useful to us. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 14:27, 12 September 2020 (UTC)		::: If so, [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=270_159_224_472&limit=11&tuning=po this temperament] might make a good example of the base temperament. From there, I suspect that [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=159_224_472&limit=11&tuning=po this one] might make an example of a good Altierran temperament. Also, I figured I might as well repost these links in the discussion seeing as they were deleted by the previous revision and may yet be useful to us. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 14:27, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

	Okay we need the ~~wedgie~~ for the rank-4 parent temperament, and I have no idea how to find it... --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 18:16, 13 September 2020 (UTC)		Okay we need the multivals for the rank-4 parent temperament, and I have no idea how to find them... --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 18:16, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Aura at 18:16, 13 September 2020

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	::: If so, [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=270_159_224_472&limit=11&tuning=po this temperament] might make a good example of the base temperament. From there, I suspect that [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=159_224_472&limit=11&tuning=po this one] might make an example of a good Altierran temperament. Also, I figured I might as well repost these links in the discussion seeing as they were deleted by the previous revision and may yet be useful to us. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 14:27, 12 September 2020 (UTC)		::: If so, [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=270_159_224_472&limit=11&tuning=po this temperament] might make a good example of the base temperament. From there, I suspect that [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=159_224_472&limit=11&tuning=po this one] might make an example of a good Altierran temperament. Also, I figured I might as well repost these links in the discussion seeing as they were deleted by the previous revision and may yet be useful to us. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 14:27, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

			Okay we need the wedgie for the rank-4 parent temperament, and I have no idea how to find it... --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 18:16, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Xenwolf: Xenwolf moved page Talk:Quartismic temperaments to Talk:Quartismic family: better article name after splitting the comma part

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Xenwolf moved page Talk:Quartismic temperaments to Talk:Quartismic family: better article name after splitting the comma part

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Aura at 14:28, 12 September 2020

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	::: Truth be told, the first paragraph only lists examples, and there are already eight examples listed. Nevertheless, thank you for pointing out that 25, 45, and 67 are also Quartismic EDOs. Oh, and does it make sense to make the full 2.3.5.7.11 temperament the base temperament and to separate the data on the no-fives version into its own subsection? --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 13:55, 12 September 2020 (UTC)		::: Truth be told, the first paragraph only lists examples, and there are already eight examples listed. Nevertheless, thank you for pointing out that 25, 45, and 67 are also Quartismic EDOs. Oh, and does it make sense to make the full 2.3.5.7.11 temperament the base temperament and to separate the data on the no-fives version into its own subsection? --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 13:55, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

	::: If so, [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=270_159_224_472&limit=11&tuning=po this temperament] might make a good example of the base temperament. From there, I suspect that ~~we can make~~ [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=159_224_472&limit=11&tuning=po this one] an example of a good Altierran temperament. Also, I figured I might as well repost these links in the discussion seeing as they were deleted by the previous revision and may yet be useful to us. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 14:27, 12 September 2020 (UTC)		::: If so, [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=270_159_224_472&limit=11&tuning=po this temperament] might make a good example of the base temperament. From there, I suspect that [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=159_224_472&limit=11&tuning=po this one] might make an example of a good Altierran temperament. Also, I figured I might as well repost these links in the discussion seeing as they were deleted by the previous revision and may yet be useful to us. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 14:27, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Aura at 14:27, 12 September 2020

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	::: Truth be told, the first paragraph only lists examples, and there are already eight examples listed. Nevertheless, thank you for pointing out that 25, 45, and 67 are also Quartismic EDOs. Oh, and does it make sense to make the full 2.3.5.7.11 temperament the base temperament and to separate the data on the no-fives version into its own subsection? --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 13:55, 12 September 2020 (UTC)		::: Truth be told, the first paragraph only lists examples, and there are already eight examples listed. Nevertheless, thank you for pointing out that 25, 45, and 67 are also Quartismic EDOs. Oh, and does it make sense to make the full 2.3.5.7.11 temperament the base temperament and to separate the data on the no-fives version into its own subsection? --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 13:55, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

			::: If so, [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=270_159_224_472&limit=11&tuning=po this temperament] might make a good example of the base temperament. From there, I suspect that we can make [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=159_224_472&limit=11&tuning=po this one] an example of a good Altierran temperament. Also, I figured I might as well repost these links in the discussion seeing as they were deleted by the previous revision and may yet be useful to us. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 14:27, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Aura at 13:55, 12 September 2020

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	:: BTW the @ sign doesn't work to tag me. Next time post on my user page or ask me on Facebook. --[[User:TallKite\|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite\|talk]]) 06:40, 12 September 2020 (UTC)		:: BTW the @ sign doesn't work to tag me. Next time post on my user page or ask me on Facebook. --[[User:TallKite\|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite\|talk]]) 06:40, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

			::: Truth be told, the first paragraph only lists examples, and there are already eight examples listed. Nevertheless, thank you for pointing out that 25, 45, and 67 are also Quartismic EDOs. Oh, and does it make sense to make the full 2.3.5.7.11 temperament the base temperament and to separate the data on the no-fives version into its own subsection? --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 13:55, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

TallKite at 06:40, 12 September 2020

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	: @TallKite maybe you give a guide? [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 03:14, 11 September 2020 (UTC)		: @TallKite maybe you give a guide? [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 03:14, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

	:: ~~I do know that~~ the ~~default quartismic~~ temperament ~~only tempers out the quartisma, and seems to be~~ rank-4~~, with the best candidate being [http://x31eq~~.~~com/cgi~~-~~bin/rt~~.~~cgi?ets=270_159_224_472&limit=~~11~~&tuning=po this one]~~.		:: Hi, glad to help. Yes, the full 2.3.5.7.11 temperament is rank-4. The no-fives 2.3.7.11 temperament is rank-3. The rank is always the number of primes minus the number of linearly independent (i.e. non-redundant) commas.

	:: ~~I also know that~~ the ~~Altierran temperaments are defined by tempering out the schisma as well as the quartisma.~~.. ~~--[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 03:28, 11 September 2020 (UTC)~~		:: There's a few missing EDOs from the first paragraph. 21, 25, 43, 45, 46 and 67.

	:: ~~So far, one~~ of the ~~best candidates for the Altierran temperament proper is [http:~~//~~x31eq~~.~~com/cgi~~-~~bin/rt.cgi?ets=159_224_472&limit=11&tuning=po this one]~~. ~~(Preceding unsigned comment by [[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]))~~		:: I can't make sense of the scale tree link. The two rank-2 scales don't make much sense to me as Quartismic scales because they both lack a 3/2 or a 4/3. Plus they're rank-2, not rank-3.

	:: ~~Of course, there's also [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=2159_1236_270_494&limit=11&tuning=po this temperament] as a pure temperament of~~ the ~~quartisma, but this one~~ doesn't ~~seem~~ to ~~be as accessible as the other one~~. ~~--[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 04:15, 11 September 2020 (UTC)~~		:: BTW the @ sign doesn't work to tag me. Next time post on my user page or ask me on Facebook. --[[User:TallKite\|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite\|talk]]) 06:40, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

	:: So thanks to Sam, we have several other names for other temperaments that temper out the quartisma- Coin (which also tempers out the magic comma), Meanquarter (which also tempers out the meantone comma), Kleirtismic (which also tempers out the 5-limit kleisma- the "kleir-" in "Kleirtismic being pronounced like "Clair"), and Doublefour (which also tempers out the tetracot comma). --[[User:~~Aura~~\|~~Aura~~]] ([[User talk:~~Aura~~\|talk]]) 15:57, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

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	:: Of course, there's also [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=2159_1236_270_494&limit=11&tuning=po this temperament] as a pure temperament of the quartisma, but this one doesn't seem to be as accessible as the other one. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 04:15, 11 September 2020 (UTC)		:: Of course, there's also [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=2159_1236_270_494&limit=11&tuning=po this temperament] as a pure temperament of the quartisma, but this one doesn't seem to be as accessible as the other one. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 04:15, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

			:: So thanks to Sam, we have several other names for other temperaments that temper out the quartisma- Coin (which also tempers out the magic comma), Meanquarter (which also tempers out the meantone comma), Kleirtismic (which also tempers out the 5-limit kleisma- the "kleir-" in "Kleirtismic being pronounced like "Clair"), and Doublefour (which also tempers out the tetracot comma). --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 15:57, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Aura at 04:18, 11 September 2020

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	:: So far, one of the best candidates for the Altierran temperament proper is [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=159_224_472&limit=11&tuning=po this one]. (Preceding unsigned comment by [[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]))		:: So far, one of the best candidates for the Altierran temperament proper is [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=159_224_472&limit=11&tuning=po this one]. (Preceding unsigned comment by [[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]))

	:: Of course, there's also [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=2159_1236_270_494&limit=11&tuning=po this temperament] as pure temperament of the quartisma, but this one doesn't seem to be as accessible as the other one. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 04:15, 11 September 2020 (UTC)		:: Of course, there's also [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=2159_1236_270_494&limit=11&tuning=po this temperament] as a pure temperament of the quartisma, but this one doesn't seem to be as accessible as the other one. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 04:15, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

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	:: So far, one of the best candidates for the Altierran temperament proper is [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=159_224_472&limit=11&tuning=po this one]. (Preceding unsigned comment by [[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]))		:: So far, one of the best candidates for the Altierran temperament proper is [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=159_224_472&limit=11&tuning=po this one]. (Preceding unsigned comment by [[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]))

			:: Of course, there's also [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=2159_1236_270_494&limit=11&tuning=po this temperament] as pure temperament of the quartisma, but this one doesn't seem to be as accessible as the other one. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 04:15, 11 September 2020 (UTC)