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== Name for &amp;quot;Transversal&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
The transversals listed here are technically NOT the lowest-complexity JI dyads for each interval class, because I&amp;#039;m calling the neutral second 12/11 instead of 9/8. I sort of unofficially tended towards something like a &amp;quot;lowest-badness&amp;quot; transversal, where for each class I picked the JI dyad that is lowest in complexity but not too high in error. You could probably formalize this concept mathematically if you want.&lt;br /&gt;
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Is &amp;quot;transversal&amp;quot; still a good name for this?&lt;br /&gt;
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- &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;mbattaglia1&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; December 09, 2011, 03:16:17 PM UTC-0800&lt;br /&gt;
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There&amp;#039;s no requirement for lowest complexity, just that mavila maps the JI interval to the corresponding mavila note.&lt;br /&gt;
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- &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;genewardsmith&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; December 10, 2011, 01:45:32 AM UTC-0800&lt;br /&gt;
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== pentatonic names ==&lt;br /&gt;
I&amp;#039;m all for tradition, but should we really have a scale named, &amp;quot;dung&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
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- &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Natebedell&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; December 09, 2011, 06:04:34 AM UTC-0800&lt;br /&gt;
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You can actually name the mavila[5] modes whatever you want. Ding, dong, deng, dung, dang are just the solmization syllables, like do re mi... &amp;quot;Patet&amp;quot; is mostly used in Javanese music and means something like &amp;quot;key&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;mode&amp;quot; (or &amp;quot;raga&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;maqam&amp;quot;...)&lt;br /&gt;
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If it helps, note that it&amp;#039;s pronounced like &amp;quot;doong&amp;quot; rather than the English word &amp;quot;dung&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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- &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;keenanpepper&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; December 09, 2011, 03:00:21 PM UTC-0800&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moved to Modal Harmony ==&lt;br /&gt;
We&amp;#039;re doing something similar for porcupine now, so I moved this to &amp;quot;Mavila Temperament Modal Harmony.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Right now it just has the names for the modes, without much harmony, so it&amp;#039;s a work in progress. I hope to eventually work out the MODMOS&amp;#039;s of mavila, and add them as well. Also, I&amp;#039;d like to name the modes on the Porcupine modal harmony page too. Also also, I&amp;#039;d like to at some point give tables of the chord qualities that are available in each mode, which will be easier once I finish wrapping my head around Gene&amp;#039;s tablets.&lt;br /&gt;
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But until then we&amp;#039;ll move as fast as we can on it, and slowly but surely all of these pages will converge on the same thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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- &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;mbattaglia1&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; November 01, 2011, 07:06:10 AM UTC-0700&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mavila Scales ==&lt;br /&gt;
Under construction, I plan on providing an introductory to Mavila scales along with a list of the modes of the 5, 7, and 9 note MOS mavila scales, along with some useful MODMOS mavila scales.&lt;br /&gt;
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Feel free to add on.&lt;br /&gt;
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- &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Natebedell&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; September 05, 2011, 04:29:08 PM UTC-0700&lt;br /&gt;
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It also would be nice to provide similar lists and explanations for other types of microtonal scales in this scale section.&lt;br /&gt;
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- &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Natebedell&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; September 05, 2011, 04:31:54 PM UTC-0700&lt;br /&gt;
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I&amp;#039;m thinking I might name the pentatonic and/or nonatonic MOS scales after numbers in the Chopi language. Can someone help me find more information on the language?&lt;br /&gt;
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If that dosen&amp;#039;t work out I&amp;#039;ll have to get a little more creative with my naming scheme, which might not be a bad thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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- &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Natebedell&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; September 10, 2011, 09:19:59 AM UTC-0700&lt;br /&gt;
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This is interesting and somewhat relevant...&lt;br /&gt;
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http://hrsbstaff.ednet.ns.ca/fergusm6/History%20projects/African%20Music.ppt&lt;br /&gt;
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Musicians are called &amp;quot;Jeli&amp;quot;... cool.&lt;br /&gt;
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- &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Cenobyte&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; September 27, 2011, 01:27:53 PM UTC-0700&lt;br /&gt;
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