Talk:Kite Guitar translations by Kite Giedraitis - Revision history

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TallKite at 09:30, 22 November 2020

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 == Note to self: Possible future translations ==
 Do You - Spoon (splits a M2 into 3, instead of 2)<br>
 Make Me Feel - Janelle Monáe (splits a M2 into 4, instead of 2)<br>
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 also, I can play functional version with inversions and melody interwoven with chords and it works fine on 6-strings without lots of challenges. --[[User:Wolftune|Wolftune]] ([[User talk:Wolftune|talk]]) 22:32, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

TallKite: TallKite moved page Talk:Song Translations by Kite Giedraitis to The Kite Guitar to Talk:Kite Guitar Translations by Kite Giedraitis: uniform concise format for naming

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TallKite moved page Talk:Song Translations by Kite Giedraitis to The Kite Guitar to Talk:Kite Guitar Translations by Kite Giedraitis: uniform concise format for naming

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TallKite at 08:07, 28 May 2020

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			== Note to self: Possible future translations ==
			Good in Bed - Dua Lipa (splits a m3 into 4, instead of 3)<br>
			Do You - Spoon (splits a M2 into 3, instead of 2)<br>
			Make Me Feel - Janelle Monáe (splits a M2 into 4, instead of 2)<br>
			see Stephen W's video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bwl1fiGqJA [[User:TallKite\|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite\|talk]]) 08:07, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

	== Monospaced Font for Guitar Tabs ==		== Monospaced Font for Guitar Tabs ==
	To get a monospaced font, enclose your text in these tags: < tt > and < /tt > (but without the spaces). Inside the tags, every line MUST start with a space, even empty lines. [[User:TallKite\|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite\|talk]]) 07:22, 22 February 2020 (UTC)		To get a monospaced font, enclose your text in these tags: < tt > and < /tt > (but without the spaces). Inside the tags, every line MUST start with a space, even empty lines. [[User:TallKite\|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite\|talk]]) 07:22, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
	: This is not quite correct, you can use indentation by one space for each line of a code box (including empty lines), or enclosing the whole code block with <tt>pre</tt> tags. the <tt>tt</tt> tag and the <code>code</code> tag are both used for inline code sections. Maybe this should be explained a bit more on some help page. <br> Best regards --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 16:04, 13 May 2020 (UTC)		: This is not quite correct, you can use indentation by one space for each line of a code box (including empty lines), or enclosing the whole code block with <tt>pre</tt> tags. the <tt>tt</tt> tag and the <code>code</code> tag are both used for inline code sections. Maybe this should be explained a bit more on some help page. <br> Best regards --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 16:04, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
			:: Thanks![[User:TallKite\|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite\|talk]])

	== Greensleeves ==		== Greensleeves ==

Xenwolf: /* Monospaced Font for Guitar Tabs */ re

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	== Monospaced Font for Guitar Tabs ==		== Monospaced Font for Guitar Tabs ==
	To get a monospaced font, enclose your text in these tags: < tt > and < /tt > (but without the spaces). Inside the tags, every line MUST start with a space, even empty lines. [[User:TallKite\|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite\|talk]]) 07:22, 22 February 2020 (UTC)		To get a monospaced font, enclose your text in these tags: < tt > and < /tt > (but without the spaces). Inside the tags, every line MUST start with a space, even empty lines. [[User:TallKite\|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite\|talk]]) 07:22, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
			: This is not quite correct, you can use indentation by one space for each line of a code box (including empty lines), or enclosing the whole code block with <tt>pre</tt> tags. the <tt>tt</tt> tag and the <code>code</code> tag are both used for inline code sections. Maybe this should be explained a bit more on some help page. <br> Best regards --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 16:04, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

	== Greensleeves ==		== Greensleeves ==

TallKite at 07:22, 22 February 2020

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			== Monospaced Font for Guitar Tabs ==
			To get a monospaced font, enclose your text in these tags: < tt > and < /tt > (but without the spaces). Inside the tags, every line MUST start with a space, even empty lines. [[User:TallKite\|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite\|talk]]) 07:22, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

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	also, I can play functional version with inversions and melody interwoven with chords and it works fine on 6-strings without lots of challenges. --[[User:Wolftune\|Wolftune]] ([[User talk:Wolftune\|talk]]) 22:32, 28 December 2019 (UTC)		also, I can play functional version with inversions and melody interwoven with chords and it works fine on 6-strings without lots of challenges. --[[User:Wolftune\|Wolftune]] ([[User talk:Wolftune\|talk]]) 22:32, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

	~~== Monospaced Font for Guitar Tabs ==~~
	~~To get a monospaced font, start with an HTML style tag, tt enclosed in brackets <>. End with /tt in brackets. Inside the tags, every line MUST start with a space, even empty lines.~~

TallKite at 04:00, 22 February 2020

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	also, I can play functional version with inversions and melody interwoven with chords and it works fine on 6-strings without lots of challenges. --[[User:Wolftune\|Wolftune]] ([[User talk:Wolftune\|talk]]) 22:32, 28 December 2019 (UTC)		also, I can play functional version with inversions and melody interwoven with chords and it works fine on 6-strings without lots of challenges. --[[User:Wolftune\|Wolftune]] ([[User talk:Wolftune\|talk]]) 22:32, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

			== Monospaced Font for Guitar Tabs ==
			To get a monospaced font, start with an HTML style tag, tt enclosed in brackets <>. End with /tt in brackets. Inside the tags, every line MUST start with a space, even empty lines.

Wolftune: /* Greensleeves */

2019-12-28T22:32:05Z

Greensleeves

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	I do think a beginners' version without all the variations of chords would be worth doing as it could focus on inversions and melody incorporation to make the whole arrangement work nicely. The simple I^m - bVIIv - ^bVIv - Vv is trivially easy and the melody variations around that are pretty doable. --[[User:Wolftune\|Wolftune]] ([[User talk:Wolftune\|talk]]) 22:01, 27 December 2019 (UTC)		I do think a beginners' version without all the variations of chords would be worth doing as it could focus on inversions and melody incorporation to make the whole arrangement work nicely. The simple I^m - bVIIv - ^bVIv - Vv is trivially easy and the melody variations around that are pretty doable. --[[User:Wolftune\|Wolftune]] ([[User talk:Wolftune\|talk]]) 22:01, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

			UPDATE: After playing more, I'm convinced that the whole thing works smoothly enough, with or without all the embellishments, including even the IV^m. The chords in total are clearer when written as though the song were in the relative major, the full list is: Iv, vII^m, vIII^m, vIIIv, IVv, Vv, vVI^m — super straightforward. The full order for the first half using that reference is: vVI^m - Iv - Vv - vIII^m - IVv - vII^m - vIIIv

			also, I can play functional version with inversions and melody interwoven with chords and it works fine on 6-strings without lots of challenges. --[[User:Wolftune\|Wolftune]] ([[User talk:Wolftune\|talk]]) 22:32, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Wolftune: /* Greensleeves */

2019-12-27T22:01:34Z

Greensleeves

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	I don't think there needs to be any IVm at all. There are many variations of the song, including ones with half the chords, just going Im - bVII - bVI - V without the second variations on each. But to include the very nice more-complex chord progression, I still find it better to use Im - bIII - bVII - Vm - Im - bVI - V / for the opening, no IVm. I don't mind the IVm as a version, but it doesn't translate as well, and I don't find it as satisfying or traditional. If we drop the IVm, I think everything will go smoother. --[[User:Wolftune\|Wolftune]] ([[User talk:Wolftune\|talk]]) 21:20, 27 December 2019 (UTC)		I don't think there needs to be any IVm at all. There are many variations of the song, including ones with half the chords, just going Im - bVII - bVI - V without the second variations on each. But to include the very nice more-complex chord progression, I still find it better to use Im - bIII - bVII - Vm - Im - bVI - V / for the opening, no IVm. I don't mind the IVm as a version, but it doesn't translate as well, and I don't find it as satisfying or traditional. If we drop the IVm, I think everything will go smoother. --[[User:Wolftune\|Wolftune]] ([[User talk:Wolftune\|talk]]) 21:20, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

			Updated thoughts:

			The simpler 4-chord progression avoids most issues. Some of the variations come from commas being tempered out. The embellishments get complex.

			One 4-chord variation I like: I^m - V^m - ^bVIv - Vv. But the ^bVIIv that could be used as a variation to V^m, I only find it smooth when arriving to it from the ^bIII variation in the 1st quarter of the phrase. In other words, I^m / - ^bVIIv sounds weird, whereas either of: I^m - ^bIII - ^bVIIv - V^m or maybe swap the last two for I^m - ^bIII - V^m - ^bVIIv. By contrast, the I^m - (plain) bVIIv - ^bVIv - Vv sounds good too. But that doesn't blend well with V^m as a variation to the bVIIv. A surprising variation sounds okay to me: I^m - ^bIIIv - bVIIv - vV^m - ^bVIv - I^m - Vv / — except the plain bVIIv sounds weird to me after some time playing with the ^bVII and V^m (even though earlier the plain bVIIv sounded fine).

			Also, I didn't like the Vv,^7 initially at all. I preferred either a regular Vv7 (perhaps with high-3 to avoid the prominence of the 7) or the more traditional Vv with no 7. There's no need for the 7 in that it's not part of the melody.

			As I was even typing this updated comment, my mind shifted. I can see how even though it seems less traditional, the IV^m works when it is clearly a variation off of ^bVIIv. And the Vv,^7 started sounding okay enough when I was getting used to ^bVIIv instead of plain bVIIv. So, several variations can work, but not in any combination.

			I do think a beginners' version without all the variations of chords would be worth doing as it could focus on inversions and melody incorporation to make the whole arrangement work nicely. The simple I^m - bVIIv - ^bVIv - Vv is trivially easy and the melody variations around that are pretty doable. --[[User:Wolftune\|Wolftune]] ([[User talk:Wolftune\|talk]]) 22:01, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Wolftune: Greensleeves chord progression comment

2019-12-27T21:20:23Z

Greensleeves chord progression comment

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== Greensleeves ==

I don't think there needs to be any IVm at all. There are many variations of the song, including ones with half the chords, just going Im - bVII - bVI - V without the second variations on each. But to include the very nice more-complex chord progression, I still find it better to use Im - bIII - bVII - Vm - Im - bVI - V / for the opening, no IVm. I don't mind the IVm as a version, but it doesn't translate as well, and I don't find it as satisfying or traditional. If we drop the IVm, I think everything will go smoother. --[[User:Wolftune|Wolftune]] ([[User talk:Wolftune|talk]]) 21:20, 27 December 2019 (UTC)