Talk:Kite Guitar translations - Revision history

TallKite at 10:02, 28 November 2020

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	:: I see, but this way you give it a self-enforcing tendency towards "de-wikification" ;-) BTW: are you interested in resolving the double redirect yourself? May I also suggest to change the title of this page from [[Kite Guitar Translations]] into [[Kite Guitar translations]]? --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 22:47, 27 November 2020 (UTC)		:: I see, but this way you give it a self-enforcing tendency towards "de-wikification" ;-) BTW: are you interested in resolving the double redirect yourself? May I also suggest to change the title of this page from [[Kite Guitar Translations]] into [[Kite Guitar translations]]? --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 22:47, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

			::: I changed the title of this page. I think I already resolved the double-redirect. Did I do it right? I just added another translation and went and updated this page again. Sorry, more %20's! But I will be doing lots of updates, so I need a super-easy way to do it. And I don't think the %20's are much of a problem. If there is an easy way to avoid the %20 stuff, let me know. --[[User:TallKite\|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite\|talk]]) 10:02, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

TallKite: TallKite moved page Talk:Kite Guitar Translations to Talk:Kite Guitar translations

2020-11-28T08:01:11Z

TallKite moved page Talk:Kite Guitar Translations to Talk:Kite Guitar translations

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Xenwolf: /* Why %20 instead of space? */ re

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Why %20 instead of space?: re

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	: Whenever I add a new translation to my personal translations page, I update this page to reflect that. I've found the easiest way to do that is to simply copy and paste the table of contents from the former to the latter. The <code>%20</code> stuff is a by-product of that. --[[User:TallKite\|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite\|talk]]) 22:37, 27 November 2020 (UTC)		: Whenever I add a new translation to my personal translations page, I update this page to reflect that. I've found the easiest way to do that is to simply copy and paste the table of contents from the former to the latter. The <code>%20</code> stuff is a by-product of that. --[[User:TallKite\|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite\|talk]]) 22:37, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

			:: I see, but this way you give it a self-enforcing tendency towards "de-wikification" ;-) BTW: are you interested in resolving the double redirect yourself? May I also suggest to change the title of this page from [[Kite Guitar Translations]] into [[Kite Guitar translations]]? --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 22:47, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

TallKite at 22:37, 27 November 2020

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	Hi Kite, what was the problem that you solved by exchanging <code> </code> by <code>%20</code>? I mean, internal links are correctly translated from page titles and headings (except in some rare cases) whereas encoded chars make the wiki text of this page almost unreadable. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 14:38, 27 November 2020 (UTC)		Hi Kite, what was the problem that you solved by exchanging <code> </code> by <code>%20</code>? I mean, internal links are correctly translated from page titles and headings (except in some rare cases) whereas encoded chars make the wiki text of this page almost unreadable. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 14:38, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

			: Whenever I add a new translation to my personal translations page, I update this page to reflect that. I've found the easiest way to do that is to simply copy and paste the table of contents from the former to the latter. The <code>%20</code> stuff is a by-product of that. --[[User:TallKite\|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite\|talk]]) 22:37, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Xenwolf: /* Why %20 instead of space? */ new section

2020-11-27T14:38:56Z

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		== Why %20 instead of space? ==

		Hi Kite, what was the problem that you solved by exchanging <code> </code> by <code>%20</code>? I mean, internal links are correctly translated from page titles and headings (except in some rare cases) whereas encoded chars make the wiki text of this page almost unreadable. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 14:38, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

TallKite: Blanked the page

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	~~== Dear Ruby by Thelonious Monk ==~~

	Notes to self for a possible future translation: I got the Ruby chords from ultimate guitar and translated them to 41edo. I didn't study the song, barely listened to it. So this is not an in-depth translation, just a rough draft of sorts. Just looked at the lattice and avoided pitch shifts on common tones. It went well. I stuck to 5-limit, except for the dom7 and dim7 chords. No glaring weirdnesses.

	~~I didn't analyze the melody. If the melody plays a sustained 9th above a v6 chord, I would probably drop the 5th from the chord and tune the 9th as a v9.~~

	The ^Ab^d7 chord after the 1st line of the verse makes an uneven root movement. Maybe better as vAb^d7. I was trying to keep the 7th of the previous chord the same as the 6th of this chord. But maybe not worth doing, since the pitch shift would be 2\41 not 1\41.

	2nd line, Dbd7 followed by Bbd7 is weird because they're the same chord in 12edo! They're different chords in 41. So unless you just hold the same chord, you have pitch shifts. I would have to know the song better to do a good translation there.
	~~The ^d7(~5) chords may be too dissonant and may need to be regular ^d7 chords. The ~5 avoids a pitch shift of 2\41, which may be fine, since it's not 1\41.~~

	In the outro, after the first line we have IVM7 followed by Vm7, a meantone pitch shift. One shift in the whole song, not bad. Easily hideable by voicing the root of the IV chord low and the 7th of the V chord high, as one would normally do anyway.

	~~Since writing this, I'm told these are not the correct chords for the tune, oh well...~~

	~~[Intro]~~

	~~Bbv6 ^Dbv6 ^Db^d7 ^Abv6~~

	~~F^m9 ^Ev7vv#9/^B Bb^d7(~5) B^d7~~

	~~[Verse]~~

	~~F^m9 B^d7 ^Ab^d7 ^EbvM7~~

	~~Ru by, My Dear~~

	~~F^m7 Gb^m7 vG^m7 ^Abv6 vAv6 Bbv6~~

	~~vG^m9 vG^d7/^Db (was Dbd7) Bbvd7 FvM7~~

	~~Hold back that tear~~

	~~vG^m7 Ab^m7 vA^m7~~

	~~Bb^m7 Bb^d7 vG^d7(~5) AbvM7~~

	~~I know he's gone~~

	~~Bb^m7 vB^m7 vC^m7~~

	~~vC^m7 Bb^m7~~

	~~Your love has flown~~

	~~Av,9 E7sus4no5 B^d7~~

	~~You're all alone~~


	~~[Bridge]~~

	~~^AvM7 B^m7 B^d7~~

	~~One day he came to you~~

	~~F#^m7 ^Av6~~

	~~And made the music play~~

	~~Bbv6 B^d7~~

	~~In his way~~

	~~Ebv6 Ebva Ebv/vC~~

	~~You said you'd rather die~~

	~~vD^m7 Eb^m7 A^d7 Ebva~~

	~~Than say goodbye~~


	~~[Outro]~~

	~~F^m9 B^d7 Ab^d7(~5) EbvM7~~

	~~But there'll come a day~~

	~~F^m7 Gb^m7 vG^m7 ^Abv6 Av6 Bbv6~~

	~~vG^m9 vG^d7/^Db (was Dbd7) Bbvd7 FvM7~~

	~~Though he's away~~

	~~vG^m7 Ab^m7 vA^m7~~

	~~Bb^m7 Bb^d7 vG^d7(~5) AbvM7~~

	~~You'll sing his song~~

	~~Bb^m7 vB^m7 vC^m7~~

	~~vC^m7 Bb^m7~~

	~~You'll carry on~~

	~~Av,9 E7sus4no5 Av6~~

	~~Ruby, My Dear~~

	~~[[User:TallKite\|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite\|talk]]) 09:21, 22 November 2020 (UTC)~~

TallKite: Created page with "== Dear Ruby by Thelonious Monk == Notes to self for a possible future translation: I got the Ruby chords from ultimate guitar and translated them to 41edo. I didn't study th..."

2020-11-22T09:21:29Z

Created page with "== Dear Ruby by Thelonious Monk == Notes to self for a possible future translation: I got the Ruby chords from ultimate guitar and translated them to 41edo. I didn't study th..."

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== Dear Ruby by Thelonious Monk ==

Notes to self for a possible future translation: I got the Ruby chords from ultimate guitar and translated them to 41edo. I didn't study the song, barely listened to it. So this is not an in-depth translation, just a rough draft of sorts. Just looked at the lattice and avoided pitch shifts on common tones. It went well. I stuck to 5-limit, except for the dom7 and dim7 chords. No glaring weirdnesses.

I didn't analyze the melody. If the melody plays a sustained 9th above a v6 chord, I would probably drop the 5th from the chord and tune the 9th as a v9.

The ^Ab^d7 chord after the 1st line of the verse makes an uneven root movement. Maybe better as vAb^d7. I was trying to keep the 7th of the previous chord the same as the 6th of this chord. But maybe not worth doing, since the pitch shift would be 2\41 not 1\41.

2nd line, Dbd7 followed by Bbd7 is weird because they're the same chord in 12edo! They're different chords in 41. So unless you just hold the same chord, you have pitch shifts. I would have to know the song better to do a good translation there.
The ^d7(~5) chords may be too dissonant and may need to be regular ^d7 chords. The ~5 avoids a pitch shift of 2\41, which may be fine, since it's not 1\41.

In the outro, after the first line we have IVM7 followed by Vm7, a meantone pitch shift. One shift in the whole song, not bad. Easily hideable by voicing the root of the IV chord low and the 7th of the V chord high, as one would normally do anyway.

Since writing this, I'm told these are not the correct chords for the tune, oh well...

[Intro]

Bbv6 ^Dbv6 ^Db^d7 ^Abv6

F^m9 ^Ev7vv#9/^B Bb^d7(~5) B^d7

[Verse]

F^m9 B^d7 ^Ab^d7 ^EbvM7

Ru by, My Dear

F^m7 Gb^m7 vG^m7 ^Abv6 vAv6 Bbv6

vG^m9 vG^d7/^Db (was Dbd7) Bbvd7 FvM7

Hold back that tear

vG^m7 Ab^m7 vA^m7

Bb^m7 Bb^d7 vG^d7(~5) AbvM7

I know he's gone

Bb^m7 vB^m7 vC^m7

vC^m7 Bb^m7

Your love has flown

Av,9 E7sus4no5 B^d7

You're all alone

[Bridge]

^AvM7 B^m7 B^d7

One day he came to you

F#^m7 ^Av6

And made the music play

Bbv6 B^d7

In his way

Ebv6 Ebva Ebv/vC

You said you'd rather die

vD^m7 Eb^m7 A^d7 Ebva

Than say goodbye

[Outro]

F^m9 B^d7 Ab^d7(~5) EbvM7

But there'll come a day

F^m7 Gb^m7 vG^m7 ^Abv6 Av6 Bbv6

vG^m9 vG^d7/^Db (was Dbd7) Bbvd7 FvM7

Though he's away

vG^m7 Ab^m7 vA^m7

Bb^m7 Bb^d7 vG^d7(~5) AbvM7

You'll sing his song

Bb^m7 vB^m7 vC^m7

vC^m7 Bb^m7

You'll carry on

Av,9 E7sus4no5 Av6

Ruby, My Dear

[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 09:21, 22 November 2020 (UTC)